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R-44's in CI Yard.

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I was sitting in slow traffic on the Belt Pkwy yesterday and saw about five 10 cars sets of R-44's. By the looks of things these are for sure heading to the scrap heap. Are these cars headed for Bush Terminal and then ferry to Greenville Yard en route to Naparano? Why are they not reefing these cars? With the past 10+ years of reefing I'm wondering what the MTA does for scrapping now. Does anyone here know? Also how many more R-44's are there laying around in 207th or Pitkin?

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I do not work for the TA, however, IMHO, to be environmentally friendly, I guess that they would eventually go to 207 Street Yard to be reefed. Keep in mind that there is not a lot of room at the 207 Street Yard to store these trains.

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I was sitting in slow traffic on the Belt Pkwy yesterday and saw about five 10 cars sets of R-44's. By the looks of things these are for sure heading to the scrap heap. Are these cars headed for Bush Terminal and then ferry to Greenville Yard en route to Naparano? Why are they not reefing these cars? With the past 10+ years of reefing I'm wondering what the MTA does for scrapping now. Does anyone here know? Also how many more R-44's are there laying around in 207th or Pitkin?

 

Reefing program was too expensive, or they were afraid of the toxic materials. I don't think any R44's exist in 207th or Pitkin. They have been removed. They aren't seeing service ever again after being flooded by Hurricane Irene back in August 2011.

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Reefing program was too expensive, or they were afraid of the toxic materials. I don't think any R44's exist in 207th or Pitkin. They have been removed. They aren't seeing service ever again after being flooded by Hurricane Irene back in August 2011.

 

Where did they get flooded by Hurricane Irene?

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I did not realize they were sitting in there for that long. Were they on the same tracks as they are now. In the back of the yard closest to Sea Beach Line?

 

Yes. I often saw them on my way to Coney Island.

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I do not work for the TA, however, IMHO, to be environmentally friendly, I guess that they would eventually go to 207 Street Yard to be reefed. Keep in mind that there is not a lot of room at the 207 Street Yard to store these trains.

 

They aren't getting reefed. They are getting scrapped.

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In the days before reefing they would also use those same tracks for R27/R30's which were headed for Bush Terminal Yard and then to Jersey for scrapping. I don't like to assume but I wonder if they will wind up at 1st Ave and 45st Bush Terminal/SBK Yard? I don't pass on the Belt often so I hope someone here can let me know. I'd love to go photograph them at Bush Terminal. It's been years since I took pictures there.

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Reefing program was too expensive, or they were afraid of the toxic materials. I don't think any R44's exist in 207th or Pitkin. They have been removed. They aren't seeing service ever again after being flooded by Hurricane Irene back in August 2011.

 

 

207th St yard still has quite few R44s.

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207th St yard still has quite few R44s.

 

They even have 5344 and 402, which are stripped but still on property.

 

BTW: The only R44s ever scrapped were 5282 and 5319, and 5283, 5285, 5248 and 5402 are OOS but I don't know where.

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Why should they? The R44s were deemed unsafe to keep in service. Just by riding them, I could tell something didn't feel quite right about the way they rode. And that was back in the 90s, not too long after they got their GOH.

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Why can't they put some R44s on the (R) or (F) or (C) lines.

 

They also got flooded too. Meaning that they will never see service again. Once something has water in it it's basically dead.

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They also got flooded too. Meaning that they will never see service again. Once something has water in it it's basically dead.

 

You're incorrect as on December 2, 1989, 16 R68As were in a flood and were submerged in a tunnel.

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They also got flooded too. Meaning that they will never see service again. Once something has water in it it's basically dead.

Not true at all. After the flood at BERA, members (including myself) have been hard at work restoring the cars that were flooded, and several have been returned to service.

 

Never assume such grand things.

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Staten Island's cars are in much better shape than their NYCTA counterparts. That's why the former's trains are still running while the latter ones are awaiting their inevitable scrapping.

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They even have 5344 and 402, which are stripped but still on property.

 

BTW: The only R44s ever scrapped were 5282 and 5319, and 5283, 5285, 5248 and 5402 are OOS but I don't know where.

10 R44s were scrapped in the 1980s prior to rebuilding (due to wrecks or frame damage), leaving 278 GOH units.

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There were two very badly damaged R44's in 207st from mid to late 80's. They were burnt. Anyone know what accident they were involved in.

Also there were two R-46's in the back of Coney Island Yard on Macdonald Ave

side for over ten years. Was always curious to why they were not GOH'd. They did not look to have damage on the exterior.

 

I am still curious to what the scrapping plan is for the R-44's. I had read they were to flat bed them out of 207st. Now they are sitting on the same tracks in CI yard that was the death row tracks for many trains bound for SBK Yard in Sunset Park. So does anyone know who the MTA awarded the scrapping contract to?

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10 R44s were scrapped in the 1980s prior to rebuilding (due to wrecks or frame damage), leaving 278 GOH units.

 

Oh yeah, I knew that.

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Once something has water in it it's basically dead.

 

 

There's water in you, are you basically dead?

 

Really now.

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