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10 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

They should really just either bring back the (old, pre-loop) n2 with a few adjustments, or expand the Flexi to middays and Saturdays. It's absurd how the bus pulls in those numbers while running only minibuses and during the peak period.

NICE adjusted the Flexi to service LIJ-Valley Stream and increased peak hour service, then purchased newer Minibuses. 

 

12 hours ago, Lex said:

That's not what I was referring to...

NICE eliminated most of their superfluous routes except for the Mercy Shuttle, Flexi, and n80. The n80 gets far too much usage among Amazon workers, and people working out of Bethpage to be cut. 

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4 minutes ago, NY1635 said:

NICE eliminated most of their superfluous routes except for the Mercy Shuttle, Flexi, and n80. The n80 gets far too much usage among Amazon workers, and people working out of Bethpage to be cut. 

That's still not what I meant...

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5 minutes ago, Lex said:

That's still not what I meant...

The old CEO eliminated the Superfluous routes when it became apparent that Manago wasn't going to pay for the buses, and PinePower stopped going to the events with and making written speeches. 

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3 minutes ago, Lex said:

@NY1635

Look carefully.

NICE keeps a lot of the designations for internal purposes. The n22a still run as n22 to Roosevelt Field or n22 to Mineola Intermodal. The n40/41 is really the n40. NICE uses Clever Devices, they just change things up a bit every now and again. 

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On 9/6/2019 at 8:34 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

They should really just either bring back the (old, pre-loop) n2 with a few adjustments, or expand the Flexi to middays and Saturdays. It's absurd how the bus pulls in those numbers while running only minibuses and during the peak period.

The fleet was recently changed to larger buses, and rerouted over to LIJ. The old circulator route didn't really serve any points of interest. It gets decent usage among HHAs in the area.

Nassau Buses have been smooth enough that the HHAs are talking loud on the n35 about how they can't do the 3 buses to 1 destination for their client. Overheard two of them talking on the n35 to Baldwin on Sunday.

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On 9/7/2019 at 7:25 AM, NY1635 said:

NICE keeps a lot of the designations for internal purposes. The n22a still run as n22 to Roosevelt Field or n22 to Mineola Intermodal. The n40/41 is really the n40. NICE uses Clever Devices, they just change things up a bit every now and again. 

How have the passenger counters been helping with planning and insight? 

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6 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

How have the passenger counters been helping with planning and insight? 

They've been operating out of HTC, and Roosvelt Field at certain points. 

I also heard that the n6 is at 18000 riders due to the recent stop movements at Hillside/168th

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18 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

They still have human passenger counters?

Is 18,000 an increase or decrease in ridership?

Yes, the human passenger counters operate out of Hempstead Transit Center

18,000 is an increase in ridership. Old CEO loved to brag about how the n6 got 14,000 riders.

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3 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

What happened at Hillside and 168th? I walked down there recently and didn't see the stop.

The stop has been consolidated with the Q1/Q43 stand. That long line that usually wraps around 168th and Hillside are patrons waiting for the n1 and n6x

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6 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

Interesting, has the move increased ridership on the N1 trips from Jamaica?

I think there's high demand for the n1 to Jamaica, but it's still the invisible route along Elmont Road. 

Also noticing high usage on Sunday Mornings.

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22 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

Do you mean because of the route's headway?

n1: Heavy usage on Central from Stuart to Valley Stream Rail Road Station, Light on Elmont Road during off peak hours.

Elmont Flexi: Gets more usage on Meacham Ave, with Rockaway Ave at Merrick and Green Acres being most used stops

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53 minutes ago, NY1635 said:

n1: Heavy usage on Central from Stuart to Valley Stream Rail Road Station, Light on Elmont Road during off peak hours.

Elmont Flexi: Gets more usage on Meacham Ave, with Rockaway Ave at Merrick and Green Acres being most used stops

Ah that makes sense. Elmont road is short enough to be walkable. Instead of waiting for the next bus,  Or they can walk to the to the Q4.

Flexi usage makes sense too, thats basically how the N2's ridership was.

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Funny...the current weekday midday/evening ridership & frequency on the n20H is a damned if you, damned if you don’t scenario.

Having it every 30 minutes as of now results in a convenient amount of service...but buses with maybe 15-20 passengers (if that) at most per bus.

Changing it to once every hour...would make in less room for error by barely missing a bus...but now you’ve freed up buses to use elsewhere (maybe to restore service on even just one of the many southeast Nassau County routes that got eliminated back in 2016-2017).

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22 hours ago, Axis said:

Funny...the current weekday midday/evening ridership & frequency on the n20H is a damned if you, damned if you don’t scenario.

Having it every 30 minutes as of now results in a convenient amount of service...but buses with maybe 15-20 passengers (if that) at most per bus.

Changing it to once every hour...would make in less room for error by barely missing a bus...but now you’ve freed up buses to use elsewhere (maybe to restore service on even just one of the many southeast Nassau County routes that got eliminated back in 2016-2017).

The only routes I see coming back are weekend service on the n27, n36, n45, n50, and n72 to Babylon at some capacity. 

The county would rather recombine the n20G/H back into the n20 for the convenience of Hicksville/East Meadow Residents, and college students who love their one seat ride into Queens. The problem still remains of what to do with the n20 between Roslyn Clock Tower, and Hicksville when the semester is over. The n20H runs nonstop between Glen Cove Road and Broadway Mall because the people who live there don't want bus service. 

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