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R160 (A) Train (from 2006)

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This photo was taken by Anthony Maimone. The car was R-160A-2 (Alstom, 2005-2008, 5 car sets) 8653. No doubt it was my most favorite (A) train ever. We will get them back soon. The NTTs (B Div.) [Excluding the R110B], were first put on the (L). The First R160A in service was put on the (A). I will never forget this train, and I hope to see it in the near future, depending on where they put the R179s.

 

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This photo was taken by Anthony Maimone. The car was R-160A-2 (Alstom, 2005-2008, 5 car sets) 8653. No doubt it was my most favorite (A) train ever. We will get them back soon. The NTTs (B Div.) [Excluding the R110B], were first put on the (L). The First R160A in service was put on the (A). I will never forget this train, and I hope to see it in the near future, depending on where they put the R179s.

 

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Perhaps, there is a way the R-160's will soon head on over to the (A) Train again. What if the Jamaica Yard in Queens and the Coney Island Yard in Brooklyn

were to share some of their R-160A-2's and R-160B's (Alstom) subway cars to the 207th Street, Concourse, and Pitkin Yards? That would mean we will all finally see some of the half 5-car and full 10-car R-160 trainsets on the (A)(;)(C)(D)(G) and (S) Rockaway Park Shuttle Trains.

 

 

Here is a link to more on the R-160 info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R160_(New_York_City_Subway_car)

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As of now, there are no plans for the (A) (or (C)) to get R160s. As has been said quite often, keeping the yards with the least amount of car classes as possible keeps the maintenance costs down. It applies to every class, from the R32s to the R160s. While it would be nice to spread the newer cars across the system, it's quite impractical as you'd either have all the yards dealing with different classes or sending said cars to yards that can handle them.

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That car runs on the (N) and (Q) lines,so it isn't going anywhere soon.

 

Here is a link to more on the R-160 info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R160_(New_York_City_Subway_car)

 

Ok guys I know what an R160 is and where it runs. When we get the R179s, which will probably get the (:P©(D)(S)(T) seeing these are the only lines that have not had R160s into service (Discluding testing), I think that, I hope that, the (A) snags an R179 NTT. The last thing we had was the R110B, which was a start.

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What if the Jamaica Yard in Queens and the Coney Island Yard in Brooklyn

were to share some of their R-160A-2's and R-160B's (Alstom) subway cars to the 207th Street, Concourse, and Pitkin Yards? That would mean we will all finally see some of the half 5-car and full 10-car R-160 trainsets on the (A)(:P©(D)(G) and (S) Rockaway Park Shuttle Trains.

 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the (G) is based out of Coney Island now.

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Another reason why these aren't running on the (A) is because they are problematic on the far rockaway branch power grid.These Trains were messing up substations in Far Rockaway which is LIPA territory (Long Island Power Authority) The R160 requires to much juice in that area.Dont get me wrong I also think the TA doesnt want these running through High vandalism areas along the (A) in brooklyn.Notice all the scrappers last runs are on the (A) line.A la R40 slant,R42,Most R32s and of course the R44 *sniff*:P

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The (B)(C) & (G) did have a small amount of burn testing done. When the R179 gets delivered, the (A) is probably gonna get the R46's that are left, if any, and the R68's. That idea is based on everything St. Louis Car said.

 

Peacemak3r, you are correct, the (G) is based out of Coney Island yard.

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Another reason why these aren't running on the (A) is because they are problematic on the far rockaway branch power grid.These Trains were messing up substations in Far Rockaway which is LIPA territory (Long Island Power Authority) The R160 requires to much juice in that area.Dont get me wrong I also think the TA doesnt want these running through High vandalism areas along the (A) in brooklyn.Notice all the scrappers last runs are on the (A) line.A la R40 slant,R42,Most R32s and of course the R44 *sniff*:P

 

Thank you now I finally know why they stopped them.

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Should't this in the regular section as the photo belongs to someone else and is used to illustrate a point?

 

Anyway, there's a lot of R46s and R32s left and as bad as it is to have the (A)(C) be stuck with the oldest fleet in the system, some lines have to take them.

 

The (G) is a part time line with little to no change in its terminals. R68s suits it just fine. The (Q) needs them more as it has at least 2 northern terminals.

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Should't this in the regular section as the photo belongs to someone else and is used to illustrate a point?

 

Anyway, there's a lot of R46s and R32s left and as bad as it is to have the (A)(C) be stuck with the oldest fleet in the system, some lines have to take them.

 

The (G) is a part time line with little to no change in its terminals. R68s suits it just fine. The (Q) needs them more as it has at least 2 northern terminals.

 

I don't have a question about the photo. So it belongs in this section. I am sure that the (C) will get R46s I think. The (A) should get the R179s because it is the longest line in the whole system. I do agree that the (G) takes the R68s, I thought they looked very nice on the line. And I also agree that the (Q) should keep the R160s.

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I don't have a question about the photo. So it belongs in this section. I am sure that the (C) will get R46s I think. The (A) should get the R179s because it is the longest line in the whole system. I do agree that the (G) takes the R68s, I thought they looked very nice on the line. And I also agree that the (Q) should keep the R160s.

 

Don't get me wrong, I just think photo threads here should be pictures the op takes themselves. I thought this was going to be an older pic you had or something recent like PATCOman's thread.

 

I do agree it looks nice, but line length has nothing to do with it. Otherwise the (D) would have the R160s as well. It's about the yards and what is available. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised they gave the (A) R68s (with digital signs) and the (D) R179s because the (A)(C) almost always ends up with the oldest cars around.* Basically don't get your hopes too high about seeing the new trains on the (A). If it happens, it happens.

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I knew I forgot to do something when I posted yesterday. Thanks for reminding me GC. This does belong in the main subway section as the discussion is amount the (A) receiving R160s and not just a picture of one on the Rockaways line.

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This is exactly why I believe the (MTA) should have had either increased the orders of R160's, or should have ordered more R110's during the time.

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Dude, do you not think at all or is a sporadic thing?

 

Order more R110s. Yeah because it makes perfect sense to mass order a test train.

 

As to the R160s, it wouldn't matter if the 3rd option was ordered or not. The (A) wasn't getting them. Those cars would've gone to Coney Island, East New York and Jamaica with the rest of them.

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Well, it sure was nice riding R160s down to the Rockaways during the late summer and early fall of 2006. Damn shame that won't happen again for quite some time.

 

Yes, the R110s were test trains. But I really would have preferred that the NTT cars looked more like the R110B, especially up front. Large roll signs up front are much more legible than small LED signs are and way more legible than the godawful flipdot signs the R32s and 38s got during GOH.

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Dude, do you not think at all or is a sporadic thing?

 

Order more R110s. Yeah because it makes perfect sense to mass order a test train.

 

As to the R160s, it wouldn't matter if the 3rd option was ordered or not. The (A) wasn't getting them. Those cars would've gone to Coney Island, East New York and Jamaica with the rest of them.

 

I mentioned they should have ordered more R160's or more R110's. I didn't specifically say order more R110's.

 

I am also certain that if more R110B's were ordered they could have had ran on the Rockaways unlike the R160's which can't.

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I mentioned they should have ordered more R160's or more R110's. I didn't specifically say order more R110's.

 

Let me break down your thought of process.

 

I mentioned they should have ordered more R160's or more R110's.

 

You are still suggesting to order more R110's.

 

I am also certain that if more R110B's were ordered they could have had ran on the Rockaways unlike the R160's which can't.

 

I doubt, even if they were running good, they would order more R110B's; just because of the fact they were not 60 footers or 75 footers. Or for the fact they were test trains. Oh wait that was mentioned already.

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This is exactly why I believe the (MTA) should have had either increased the orders of R160's, or should have ordered more R110's during the time.

 

The (MTA) can't just expand an order of cars on a whim, they have to have the budget for it as well.

 

The R110s were test trains, therefore mass producing would've been stupid. Especially since they were never planned to run long term anyway.

 

The R160 order was originally supposed to be 1,700 cars. It was decreased to 1,662 because of budget problems. Especially since the economy was going down in 2008-09 anyway. But had those extra cars been ordered, their yard placement would not have changed.

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67' car trains are not practical when the max distance a c/r should be handling is about 300' per direction. A 9 car train is out of the question. B division cars should either be 60' or 75'.

 

I believe 3 cars were cannibalized for the other 6 cars. Today I'm not sure if they can even run like the R110As. There's no point in reactivating them.

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Wow; just in those today! Fire School refresher training. Every time I see them, I think what a waste. They should have used them for the Rock Park Shuttle.

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Where those cars permanent linked 3 car sets or could they be arranged as 2 or 4 car trains? Rock park (S) could* have been a good place for the R110b to run.

 

*years ago before they were mothballed.

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Where those cars permanent linked 3 car sets or could they be arranged as 2 or 4 car trains? Rock park (S) could* have been a good place for the R110b to run.

 

*years ago before they were mothballed.

 

Permanent 3 car sets.

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This photo was taken by Anthony Maimone. The car was R-160A-2 (Alstom, 2005-2008, 5 car sets) 8653. No doubt it was my most favorite (A) train ever. We will get them back soon. The NTTs (B Div.) [Excluding the R110B], were first put on the (L). The First R160A in service was put on the (A). I will never forget this train, and I hope to see it in the near future, depending on where they put the R179s.

 

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SAY MY 1ST r160 ride was on the (A) in 11/2006

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This photo was taken by Anthony Maimone. The car was R-160A-2 (Alstom, 2005-2008, 5 car sets) 8653. No doubt it was my most favorite (A) train ever. We will get them back soon. The NTTs (B Div.) [Excluding the R110B], were first put on the (L). The First R160A in service was put on the (A). I will never forget this train, and I hope to see it in the near future, depending on where they put the R179s.

 

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The 20px-NYCS-bull-trans-A.svg.png will never get any R160s ever in it's life time again.  It will most definitely get R179. There was power problems in Rockaway's which got them taken off the 20px-NYCS-bull-trans-A.svg.png. R160s were incompatible with LIPA. 

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