Amtrak7 Posted January 31, 2015 Share #3526 Posted January 31, 2015 So a quick summary from a Newsday article a couple days ago (I don't think it was posted here): Budget shortfall: $5.5 million No fare hike: -$800,000 MetroCard hike: +$600,000 All fare hike: $2 million So the fare hike that was just approved fills only 11% of the budget shortfall. Not sure what level of service cuts amount to $4.9 million...the 2012 budget shortfall was around $7.3 million but the service cuts were only part of closing that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted January 31, 2015 Share #3527 Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) January 23, 2015 by ALFONSO A. CASTILLO / alfonso.castillo@newsday.com More than 100,000 Nassau bus riders could be hit with another fare hike this year -- and still face potentially steep service cuts -- as NICE looks for ways to close a $5.5 million budget shortfall with no additional aid from the state, the agency's chief said Friday. A day after the Metropolitan Transportation Authority approved raising the cost of a bus or subway ride from $2.50 to $2.75, Nassau Inter County Express CEO Michael Setzer said the agency's governing body will consider its own 25-cent hike next week. The Nassau Bus Transit Committee will hold two public hearings on Thursday to consider fare hike options, which have not been finalized by NICE. Setzer said some kind of increase in the base fare may be necessary. NICE stands to lose $800,000 if it keeps MetroCard rates stable, he said, because the MTA, while approving the higher fare, also increased discounts for riders based on how much they spend on the cards. But only increasing the cost of a MetroCard ride to $2.75, while keeping cash fares at $2.50, would generate just an extra $600,000 for NICE -- a small fraction of the $5.5 million in added costs that the agency is facing because of contractual union raises, and rising employee medical and bus maintenance costs. Raising fares a quarter for all of NICE's 105,000 riders would bring in about $2 million more a year, the agency said. In a bipartisan agreement last year, the Nassau legislature vowed not to raise fares in 2015 for cash customers, who were just hit with a 25-cent increase in September. Setzer said lawmakers may need to go back on that promise. "I think that may have to be reconsidered," said Setzer, who noted that even with an across-the-board fare increase, NICE will still have a budget gap of about $3 million that will require additional government aid to fill. In his proposed state budget Wednesday, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo offered no additional funding for NICE. "The end of the story is that if none of these things happen, it comes out of service," said Setzer, noting that filling NICE's budget gap without additional aid would require service cuts more "painful" than any the agency has made since taking over Nassau's bus system from the MTA three years ago. "This wouldn't be 20 minutes goes to 30 minutes. This would probably be whole routes [being eliminated]." Aaron-Watkins Lopez, organizer for the Long Island Bus Riders Union, a nonprofit NICE customers' advocacy group, called the agency's latest fiscal dilemma "ludicrous," and evidence that Nassau County and NICE's parent company, Transdev, are not equipped to operate the county bus system. "It's very apparent that whatever they're doing is not working," Watkins-Lopez said. "Every time they feel like, 'We messed up,' they go and dip into the piggy bank, which is the pockets of Nassau's most vulnerable population." My sides. Edited January 31, 2015 by Joel Up Front 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted January 31, 2015 Share #3528 Posted January 31, 2015 But Mangano promised Veolia would do the same job as the MTA or more for $2 million a year! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted January 31, 2015 Share #3529 Posted January 31, 2015 But Mangano promised Veolia would do the same job as the MTA or more for $2 million a year! I never held the to that high a standard. I thought that they'd do a better job while asking for less... how far from the truth that's come to be! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 1, 2015 Share #3530 Posted February 1, 2015 But Mangano promised Veolia would do the same job as the MTA or more for $2 million a year! Technically they have I never held the to that high a standard. I thought that they'd do a better job while asking for less... how far from the truth that's come to be! They have, MTA would have cut 50% of routes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 1, 2015 Share #3531 Posted February 1, 2015 Technically they have They have, MTA would have cut 50% of routes Not talking in terms of level of service, but in terms of quality... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 1, 2015 Share #3532 Posted February 1, 2015 Not talking in terms of level of service, but in terms of quality... In that case quality has gone down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Meadow Posted February 2, 2015 Share #3533 Posted February 2, 2015 I don't see nice being here in 10 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 2, 2015 Share #3534 Posted February 2, 2015 I don't see Long Island being Long Island in 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 2, 2015 Share #3535 Posted February 2, 2015 Not talking in terms of level of service, but in terms of quality... You are too much! What do you consider quality? The system is not a skeleton system, NICE has proven to do more per dollar than the you already know the riders would be better off with NICE than the given proper funding. LIB sucked anyway! LIB: Quality!?! BWHAHAHA BWHAHAHA BWAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHA Thats the funniest thing I've head all month!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 2, 2015 Share #3536 Posted February 2, 2015 You are too much! What do you consider quality? The system is not a skeleton system, NICE has proven to do more per dollar than the you already know the riders would be better off with NICE than the given proper funding. LIB sucked anyway! LIB: Quality!?! BWHAHAHA BWHAHAHA BWAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHA Thats the funniest thing I've head all month!!! You're trying this hard? That's even more laughable than the service NICE provides. It's okay, though, continue channeling your anguish through trying to volunteer for Veolia/Transdev when you know they're awful. I love how I can make a valid statement that can become, by your ever-infinite wisdom and knowledge, invalid because it contains one criticism about the bus service here. Everything is true - OTP is nonexistent at best, riders are even more dissatisfied (hard to achieve, and guess what: they did it! Maybe that's one thing you can chalk up to God's Chosen Transit Company!), even these 3-year-old buses are dirty and are in dire need of maintentance, and Mango literaly could not give two shits about anyone forced to use the system. What money is there to be saved by taxpayers if he's going to make everything else more pricey? If NICE was "quality," why has ridership dropped by almost half? Why are even more buses late or missing on a regular basis? Why haven't they shown PROOF that ridership has gone up? They sure had something going in 2012 and then there was nothing more - low employee morale/high turnover, lower ridership, and the dispatchers? I feel for them more - they know that it's gone downhill. Every time someone else brings this up, you (the parrot) just repeat the same shit after the same shit. And I literally could never tire of this because laughing at your denial sure warms my heart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3537 Posted February 3, 2015 Blah blah blah my statements are valid don't throw a tantrum because some isn't wearing your shit colored glasses. Why the campaigning for the useless and overprice MTA? You wouldn't be posting this for free, because it's you're opinion, you wouldn't be volunteering your time kissing a useless state agenciys ass would you? That would make you a hypocrite! Why do you care, I thought you finally passed your road test and were using a car.,.? ...and I post the same stuff? Have you looked at what you post? Save your time posting a response, I really couldn't give a crapnwhat you have to say! Further more I don't want to waste my time communicating who simply can't understand that given a better funded system Transdev is better to run it over the MTA for the riders and the tax payers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3538 Posted February 3, 2015 You're trying this hard? That's even more laughable than the service NICE provides. It's okay, though, continue channeling your anguish through trying to volunteer for Veolia/Transdev when you know they're awful. I love how I can make a valid statement that can become, by your ever-infinite wisdom and knowledge, invalid because it contains one criticism about the bus service here. Everything is true - OTP is nonexistent at best, riders are even more dissatisfied (hard to achieve, and guess what: they did it! Maybe that's one thing you can chalk up to God's Chosen Transit Company!), even these 3-year-old buses are dirty and are in dire need of maintentance, and Mango literaly could not give two shits about anyone forced to use the system. What money is there to be saved by taxpayers if he's going to make everything else more pricey? If NICE was "quality," why has ridership dropped by almost half? Why are even more buses late or missing on a regular basis? Why haven't they shown PROOF that ridership has gone up? They sure had something going in 2012 and then there was nothing more - low employee morale/high turnover, lower ridership, and the dispatchers? I feel for them more - they know that it's gone downhill. Every time someone else brings this up, you (the parrot) just repeat the same shit after the same shit. And I literally could never tire of this because laughing at your denial sure warms my heart. NICE sucks! Blah blah blah my statements are valid don't throw a tantrum because some isn't wearing your shit colored glasses. Why the campaigning for the useless and overprice MTA? You wouldn't be posting this for free, because it's you're opinion, you wouldn't be volunteering your time kissing a useless state agenciys ass would you? That would make you a hypocrite! Why do you care, I thought you finally passed your road test and were using a car.,.? ...and I post the same stuff? Have you looked at what you post? Save your time posting a response, I really couldn't give a crapnwhat you have to say! Further more I don't want to waste my time communicating who simply can't understand that given a better funded system Transdev is better to run it over the MTA for the riders and the tax payers! Come on Ralph-I thought by now, even you realized that NICE sucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3539 Posted February 3, 2015 NICE sucks! Come on Ralph-I thought by now, even you realized that NICE sucks. you suck too. Broken record. There is a reason why I avoid absurdly long routes like n22&4. But admittedly the crap with n6x & n27/23 fiasco did hurt ridership considerably. You're trying this hard? That's even more laughable than the service NICE provides. It's okay, though, continue channeling your anguish through trying to volunteer for Veolia/Transdev when you know they're awful. I love how I can make a valid statement that can become, by your ever-infinite wisdom and knowledge, invalid because it contains one criticism about the bus service here. Everything is true - OTP is nonexistent at best, riders are even more dissatisfied (hard to achieve, and guess what: they did it! Maybe that's one thing you can chalk up to God's Chosen Transit Company!), even these 3-year-old buses are dirty and are in dire need of maintentance, and Mango literaly could not give two shits about anyone forced to use the system. What money is there to be saved by taxpayers if he's going to make everything else more pricey? If NICE was "quality," why has ridership dropped by almost half? Why are even more buses late or missing on a regular basis? Why haven't they shown PROOF that ridership has gone up? They sure had something going in 2012 and then there was nothing more - low employee morale/high turnover, lower ridership, and the dispatchers? I feel for them more - they know that it's gone downhill. Every time someone else brings this up, you (the parrot) just repeat the same shit after the same shit. And I literally could never tire of this because laughing at your denial sure warms my heart. OTP huh at least it's on-time every time I use it lol then again that happens to me a lot in general not just NICE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3540 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) ...and I post the same stuff? Save your time posting a response, I really couldn't give a crapnwhat you have to say! Further more I don't want to waste my time communicating who simply can't understand that given a better funded system Transdev is better to run it over the MTA for the riders and the tax payers! Same thing, isn't it? And what about you? Surely, things are golden on the other side of the island. You have a CDL as well, so surely you'd have something better to do than respond to literally every post about NICE here. You don't have to know jack shit more about my life than whatever I've posted here, how about that? Someone has an opinion different than yours! Welcome to the real world. Edited February 3, 2015 by Joel Up Front 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3541 Posted February 3, 2015 Same thing, isn't it? And what about you? Surely, things are golden on the other side of the island. You have a CDL as well, so surely you'd have something better to do than respond to literally every post about NICE here. You don't have to know jack shit more about my life than whatever I've posted here, how about that? Someone has an opinion different than yours! Welcome to the real world. The only opinion that matters is mine, I'm never wrong, & I always win! Welcome to my world! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3542 Posted February 3, 2015 Same thing, isn't it? And what about you? Surely, things are golden on the other side of the island. You have a CDL as well, so surely you'd have something better to do than respond to literally every post about NICE here. You don't have to know jack shit more about my life than whatever I've posted here, how about that? Someone has an opinion different than yours! Welcome to the real world. keyword opinion not fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3543 Posted February 3, 2015 The only opinion that matters is mine, I'm never wrong, & I always win! Welcome to my world! Yes, I think you've made that known by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted February 3, 2015 Share #3544 Posted February 3, 2015 you suck too. Broken record. There is a reason why I avoid absurdly long routes like n22&4. But admittedly the crap with n6x & n27/23 fiasco did hurt ridership considerably. OTP huh at least it's on-time every time I use it lol then again that happens to me a lot in general not just NICE. NICE sucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 4, 2015 Share #3545 Posted February 4, 2015 For some reason I've been seeing more Orion Vs around than I did in the fall. I was able to ride 1594 last Thursday on the 48. Drivetrain and HVAC have held up but the rear doors kept sticking for some reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 4, 2015 Share #3546 Posted February 4, 2015 NICE sucks.you suck more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 4, 2015 Share #3547 Posted February 4, 2015 Well well, what did I come into... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 4, 2015 Share #3548 Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) A deviation from a well-established consensus (NICE ****ING SUCKS) is all. Edited February 4, 2015 by Joel Up Front 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 4, 2015 Share #3549 Posted February 4, 2015 Well well, what did I come into... the shithole of the Internet buddy welcome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 5, 2015 Share #3550 Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) the shithole of the Internet buddy welcome. Alright, that's it, you've spammed enough now. You've talked enough shit about this place. Edited February 5, 2015 by Cait Sith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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