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Christine Quinn Against Burger King Food Carts

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Really? How many locations do they need? This is just another attempt by the fast food corporations to push their agenda onto young folks who don't know any better.

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Lol at the comments below the article. Look, I understand kids shouldn't be eating junk food, but if parents were to teach kids that stuff is bad for their health then maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. Kids these days don't even know what the word 'NO' means these days as they almost always have to have things their way.

 

What I'm against is this constant nanny state crap that emperor Bloomberg and Quinn have imposed on us. Don't do this, don't do that.... Other than the smoking ban and maybe the transfat ban, they should stop being so anal and let people live their lives. If it doesn't harm other people, then leave them alone.

 

If it's about health insurance, then tell people up front that if they choose to live on only fast foods and get clogged arteries, then they are on their own to pay for their hospital costs. They get graphic about quitting smoking, then why not do the same about eating only junk food and becoming obese?

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Lol at the comments below the article. Look, I understand kids shouldn't be eating junk food, but if parents were to teach kids that stuff is bad for their health then maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. Kids these days don't even know what the word 'NO' means these days as they almost always have to have things their way.

 

What I'm against is this constant nanny state crap that emperor Bloomberg and Quinn have imposed on us. Don't do this, don't do that.... Other than the smoking ban and maybe the transfat ban, they should stop being so anal and let people live their lives. If it doesn't harm other people, then leave them alone.

 

If it's about health insurance, then tell people up front that if they choose to live on only fast foods and get clogged arteries, then they are on their own to pay for their hospital costs. They get graphic about quitting smoking, then why not do the same about eating only junk food and becoming obese?

 

 

The problem is that obesity effects everyone, whether you realize it or not through higher healthcare costs. Many of the folks chowing down on fast food can't afford to pay their healthcare bills and those bills get passed on to everyone else, including the city and state. It was the same thing with smoking. It's not so much about trying to create a nanny state as it is about the costs to the city and state. The city is being killed with high pensions and high costs to pay for healthcare and the more obese people become the higher healthcare costs will become, which will be passed on to everyone.

 

The other issue that you probably aren't aware of is that the poorer communities are saturated with fast food restaurants and have little access to fresh healthy food if any, so it isn't about kids not eating junk food, but rather that they are surrounded by it constantly which does nothing but makes them think that eating that all of the time is okay. Another problem is cost of course, so if there are no healthy options around in the neighborhood, then they'll go and get fast food since it is cheap and readily available, which does nothing but add to the obesity problem, so at some point the city must step in and do something if not for New Yorkers, but esp. for the city's economy. I read somewhere that if this obesity problem continues that it could very well start to eat into the GDP (Gross Domestic Product) as well because we'll be spending more on healthcare and less on things like infrastructure and creation of jobs and such.

 

It's probably hard to imagine neighborhoods with no access to healthy food, but they do exist.

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Here's the thing: businesses like Whole Foods (or any other health food joint you'll probably name in your next post) are not likely to build a store in the poorer neighborhoods because folks there won't shop there. They won't go there because it's too damn expensive. It's much cheaper to go to Burger King or McDonald's and buy something off the dollar menu than it would be to get a meal at Whole Foods. Sometimes, it's not because of a lack of healthier options but rather insufficient funds.

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Here's the thing: businesses like Whole Foods (or any other health food joint you'll probably name in your next post) are not likely to build a store in the poorer neighborhoods because folks there won't shop there. They won't go there because it's too damn expensive. It's much cheaper to go to Burger King or McDonald's and buy something off the dollar menu than it would be to get a meal at Whole Foods. Sometimes, it's not because of a lack of healthier options but rather insufficient funds.

 

 

Yeah, but forget about Whole Foods. Some neighborhoods don't even have a decent supermarket. I'm just talking about a regular supermarket, nothing fancy, so access is indeed a problem. I worked on a project involving this topic and some families that actually wanted fresh, healthy food had to travel to other neighborhoods to do so. It's funny how these neighborhoods have so many fast food places and some don't even have a decent supermarket. Look at Newark... Just opened their first real supermarket in years. It also just isn't a coincidence that these fast food places target poorer communities and the politicians know this.

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You've got to be f--cking kidding me....

 

It's bad enough you got those water dog vendors all over the goddamn place.....

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Yeah, but forget about Whole Foods. Some neighborhoods don't even have a decent supermarket. I'm just talking about a regular supermarket, nothing fancy, so access is indeed a problem. I worked on a project involving this topic and some families that actually wanted fresh, healthy food had to travel to other neighborhoods to do so. It's funny how these neighborhoods have so many fast food places and some don't even have a decent supermarket. Look at Newark... Just opened their first real supermarket in years. It also just isn't a coincidence that these fast food places target poorer communities and the politicians know this.

 

It's a vicious cycle. The poor continues to buy cheap unhealthy fast foods and damage their bodies for it. But unless there was a way to get the point across that eating unhealthy foods leads to health issues, then what hope is there to change the mindset of those communities to ban together against the fast food mega corps?

 

So this 'ban' to me is insignificant as it doesn't address the real problem being that fast food chains have been rampant in poorer neighborhoods for years and only small acts like this is what's being addressed.

 

so let me make myself clear here: I am FOR healthy foods, but do not like how the government or appointed officials handles such issues. So this ban is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound. It does nothing to address the real problems other than to show how big an ego the person has. That's what I'm against here.

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Screw BK carts, I want Chicken & Waffles.

 

But in all seriousness, what the hell is this crap? Big f*ing woop, you came in third f*ing place. Why the hell would you need MORE then the hundreds of millions you already make every year? Companies start to gain some humanity. If you go kill all of your customers by stuffing your "food" down their throat, then you won't make any money again.

Damn, if we could get just three people with money, oh the world would be a much better place. See, this is why we need a communist world society. We wouldn't have this "cycle".

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CDTA You obviously don't know anything about Communism do you? In Communism there is no choice. The government controls everything you say, do, wear, or etc. It would be okay if you could speak out, but you can't. If you do you would be thrown in Gulags, or prisons in these countries. So unless if you know what you are talking about which I doubt then stop talking about Communism.

 

In fact I think you want some Socialism. That is completely different from Communism. In that case it would be alright since America could adopt some Socialist policies and still be okay. For example like free health care, and medical supplies, more aid to people that need it, and more help to the people, and a little bit more control in the economy with the government, but this idea is completely different from Communism. It is not Communism, but then again you have hardliners that are not willing to give in to this even though it would benefit the people. Again I support some Socialism in our Democracy it won't hurt us. In fact our Constitution reads "We the people". It obviously means for the people, and the basics of Socialism is for the people. So some Socialism would be okay because it will be for the people.

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It's a vicious cycle. The poor continues to buy cheap unhealthy fast foods and damage their bodies for it. But unless there was a way to get the point across that eating unhealthy foods leads to health issues, then what hope is there to change the mindset of those communities to ban together against the fast food mega corps?

 

So this 'ban' to me is insignificant as it doesn't address the real problem being that fast food chains have been rampant in poorer neighborhoods for years and only small acts like this is what's being addressed.

 

so let me make myself clear here: I am FOR healthy foods, but do not like how the government or appointed officials handles such issues. So this ban is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound. It does nothing to address the real problems other than to show how big an ego the person has. That's what I'm against here.

 

 

Here is the problem though... The government is very much responsible for the current situation with these fast food companies setting up shop in poor communities and targeting these folks, so as far as I'm concerned, it is their responsibility to rectify this problem. The government does have a certain responsibility to see to the well being of its citizens and when the situation becomes out of control as it is currently with more than HALF of the US population obese (66% to be precise), then at some point the government MUST step in. As it is right now, its failure to do nothing has led to this crisis, with 1 in every 3 Americans obese, and many suffering from illnesses related to obesity. At this rate if we continue down the path that we are, Americans will have the shortest life expectancy that we've had in many years. This obesity issue also hurts our economy because we spend more and more money on healthcare and less money on job creation and infrastructure, so everyone is hurt by this problem, from businesses, to the average American.

 

The issue is that some folks don't see this as a crisis and it is. The government is trying to do a combination of things, which is create more healthy food options in communities that don't have any or few, EDUCATE this population of folks AND hold off the fast food companies that are literally salivating at the idea of making more money off of the backs of these poor communities because they have the money to open up stores in these areas where as small businesses that may want to open up health food stores don't. The perfect example of this is in Newark where they opened a supermarket there with the help of the city because they were seriously challenged by a lack of funding and a space for the supermarket. It should come as no surprise that Newark suffers from some of the highest level of obesity in the country.

 

Yes, the government is overstepping its grounds, but quite frankly it doesn't have a choice. If the government continues to stand by and inact, it can lead to generations of Americans that are obese which could have a serious impact on the financial future of this country. The fact of the matter is that a unhealthy country becomes a non-factor in the financial world. The more obese people you have the fewer people there are to go out and work and be productive and help generate taxes and without taxes it becomes more difficult to do anything.

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Doesn't have a choice? It seems like they (gov't officials) are picking and choosing where they see fit just to make them look good. Also they are probably not doing enough because perhaps the very companies they are against, are contributing to their fund raising efforts or such.

 

So to reiterate my point, these so called 'outrage' are hollow because it addresses one problem and not the overall problem that has existed for decades.

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Doesn't have a choice? It seems like they (gov't officials) are picking and choosing where they see fit just to make them look good. Also they are probably not doing enough because perhaps the very companies they are against, are contributing to their fund raising efforts or such.

 

So to reiterate my point, these so called 'outrage' are hollow because it addresses one problem and not the overall problem that has existed for decades.

 

 

Well of course... That's another problem government has... You know these large corporations and in the politicians' pockets...

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- it's supposed to be 1/3 of americans are said to be obese....

- 2/3 of americans are said to be overweight (the 1/3 of americans that are obese are included in this stat)....

 

Yes, it's bad enough the obesity numbers are as high as they are now, but shit, we would be in some serious trouble if 66% of muggs in the country are walking around obese...

 

Carry on....

 

 

p.s. still in a state of "WTF" @ Burger King Food Carts..... smfh.....

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- it's supposed to be 1/3 of americans are said to be obese....

- 2/3 of americans are said to be overweight (the 1/3 of americans that are obese are included in this stat)....

 

Yes, it's bad enough the obesity numbers are as high as they are now, but shit, we would be in some serious trouble if 66% of muggs in the country are walking around obese...

 

Carry on....

 

 

p.s. still in a state of "WTF" @ Burger King Food Carts..... smfh.....

 

 

Actually the stat says "overweight" or "obese"... It depends on how you define "obese" I guess... The scary part is that that number may have been underestimated...

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I'm against Christine Quinn polluting my vision with her disgusting image.

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- it's supposed to be 1/3 of americans are said to be obese....

- 2/3 of americans are said to be overweight (the 1/3 of americans that are obese are included in this stat)....

 

Yes, it's bad enough the obesity numbers are as high as they are now, but shit, we would be in some serious trouble if 66% of muggs in the country are walking around obese...

 

Carry on....

 

 

p.s. still in a state of "WTF" @ Burger King Food Carts..... smfh.....

 

 

 

Actually Bro (B35) while NYC and other major urban cities in this country has a problem with people overweight, it actually worse in the poorer midwest and Southern states i.e West Virgina, Mississippi, La., etc.

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Here is the problem though... The government is very much responsible for the current situation with these fast food companies setting up shop in poor communities and targeting these folks, so as far as I'm concerned, it is their responsibility to rectify this problem. The government does have a certain responsibility to see to the well being of its citizens and when the situation becomes out of control as it is currently with more than HALF of the US population obese (66% to be precise), then at some point the government MUST step in. As it is right now, its failure to do nothing has led to this crisis, with 1 in every 3 Americans obese, and many suffering from illnesses related to obesity. At this rate if we continue down the path that we are, Americans will have the shortest life expectancy that we've had in many years. This obesity issue also hurts our economy because we spend more and more money on healthcare and less money on job creation and infrastructure, so everyone is hurt by this problem, from businesses, to the average American.

 

The issue is that some folks don't see this as a crisis and it is. The government is trying to do a combination of things, which is create more healthy food options in communities that don't have any or few, EDUCATE this population of folks AND hold off the fast food companies that are literally salivating at the idea of making more money off of the backs of these poor communities because they have the money to open up stores in these areas where as small businesses that may want to open up health food stores don't. The perfect example of this is in Newark where they opened a supermarket there with the help of the city because they were seriously challenged by a lack of funding and a space for the supermarket. It should come as no surprise that Newark suffers from some of the highest level of obesity in the country.

 

Yes, the government is overstepping its grounds, but quite frankly it doesn't have a choice. If the government continues to stand by and inact, it can lead to generations of Americans that are obese which could have a serious impact on the financial future of this country. The fact of the matter is that a unhealthy country becomes a non-factor in the financial world. The more obese people you have the fewer people there are to go out and work and be productive and help generate taxes and without taxes it becomes more difficult to do anything.

 

 

Some Republican you are!

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Actually the stat says "overweight" or "obese"... It depends on how you define "obese" I guess... The scary part is that that number may have been underestimated...

Thing is, there's different stats posted all over the place; there's some that combine the two, and some that separate the two... that's why it's kinda hard to hang your hat on any particular one....

 

That last part there, yeh, that's the sad part....

 

 

Actually Bro (B35) while NYC and other major urban cities in this country has a problem with people overweight, it actually worse in the poorer midwest and Southern states i.e West Virgina, Mississippi, La., etc.

They take pride in their cookouts/picnics/BBQ's, etc.... it's a part of the culture, or w/e you wanna call it....

Not by any means am I tryna excuse the overweight problem, but actually reinforcing your latter point in mentioning the above....

 

I may as well go 'head & say it....

Down south, the concept of eating healthy is far more shunned upon than it is up here in the NE region....

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lol... I actually watched a show last week I believe on MSNBC where two relatively young English women (one black, one white in their 20s I believe) were overweight and looking to shed their terrible eating habits. The show linked them up with a trio of three American women in Mississippi (middle aged and black and I believe they all lived together and were family) who were dangerously obese. They spent the week with them eating only what they prepared, which was usually things like pigs' feet and things that are very fattening and loaded with sodium, and saturated fat and such... Next to no vegetables and extremely large portions at that. The British women were shocked at how much the three American women ate which is hilarious considering the fact that they were overweight. Anywho I think there were three American women were terribly overweight to the point that one had fat developing in her chest area. Another could barely walk and had to have her legs rubbed and such because she was so fat that she was starting to have circulation problems. She couldn't even walk to the mailbox to get her own mail... At the end of the show, the British women seem to be scared literally into trying to eat properly. They finish the week by having the two women prepare a British meal that is rather healthy consisting of steamed vegetables like corn and such and other lean items. One woman in the American family was obsessed with putting salt on everything. She was literally addicted. What I found weird was that the British women we given a sort of wake up call, whereas the three American women seemed to continue their habits. The British women were younger and weren't at the dangerous level yet of being officially obese and hadn't be diagnosed with any illnesses like diabetes and such to my knowledge, but still. It was clear that at their weight (the American women) that they will eventually die soon if they aren't given some sort of help. I believe one easily weighs over 400 pounds and she hasn't changed her habits one bit. Here we have three individuals that know that they're literally killing themselves by what they're eating and they still can't change their eating habits. These are the kind of problems that plague poorer communities with these fast food places all over the neighborhood.

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