4 via Mosholu Posted July 15, 2019 Share #6376 Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, CenSin said: And it has no backup line. The train only has a backup via Broadway - 7th Avenue; the train as well as the train really don't have anywhere else to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6377 Posted July 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, 4 via Mosholu said: The train only has a backup via Broadway - 7th Avenue; the train as well as the train really don't have anywhere else to go. Theoretically you can still have the go via 7th Av it would just end at either 148th St or 137th St. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6378 Posted July 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Theoretically you can still have the go via 7th Av it would just end at either 148th St or 137th St. The MTA avoids this as the is the backbone of the Lex Service and isn't easily replaced in the Bronx. Which is why the is the first to go off the path. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6379 Posted July 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Dosen't the via Broadway go via Montague during late nights or am I confusing it with the ? Usually when the is rerouted via Broadway, the runs via Montague. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6380 Posted July 16, 2019 Delays Posted: 07/16/2019 6:38AM train service between Queens and Manhattan is delayed in both directions because of a work train with mechanical issues in the Steinway Tube. train service into Manhattan is limited. Consider transferring to the / / / at 74 St-Broadway or to the / at Queensboro Plaza. express service is suspended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6381 Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: Delays Posted: 07/16/2019 6:38AM train service between Queens and Manhattan is delayed in both directions because of a work train with mechanical issues in the Steinway Tube. train service into Manhattan is limited. Consider transferring to the / / / at 74 St-Broadway or to the / at Queensboro Plaza. express service is suspended. Let the fun begin! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6382 Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) On this episode of "When Shopping Carts Attack" : ------------------------------------------------------ Also, this: Part Suspended Posted: 07/16/2019 6:18PM There is no Rockaway Parkway-bound service south of Broadway Junction because of a train's brakes activating at New Lots Av. Expect delays in service in both directions. See a station agent to receive a courtesy pass and go tohttp://bt.mta.info/ for real-time bus info to continue your trip. Follow this link for more bus route information:http://bit.ly/2SjhSGI Edited July 16, 2019 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 16, 2019 Share #6383 Posted July 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: On this episode of "When Shopping Carts Attack" : ------------------------------------------------------ As a result of this I took the to the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 18, 2019 Share #6384 Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 7:32 PM, 4 via Mosholu said: The train only has a backup via Broadway - 7th Avenue; the train as well as the train really don't have anywhere else to go. It isn’t a backup because it doesn’t help folks on the east side move. A fully built 2 Avenue line would be a backup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 18, 2019 Share #6385 Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, CenSin said: It isn’t a backup because it doesn’t help folks on the east side move. A fully built 2 Avenue line would be a backup. Those are two different kinds... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 18, 2019 Share #6386 Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Looks like shopping carts might become a thing: ----------------------------------------------------- BTW, does anyone know what happened to the trains after Lexington Avenue earlier? Trains were rerouted on 6th Avenue in both directions because someone got struck by a train. Edited July 18, 2019 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted July 18, 2019 Share #6387 Posted July 18, 2019 Where are these shopping carts coming from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 18, 2019 Share #6388 Posted July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said: Where are these shopping carts coming from? Keyfoods, ShopRite, Walmart, … I think I might've even seen a Whole Foods one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted July 19, 2019 Share #6389 Posted July 19, 2019 The entire IRT except for the is suspended due to a network communication issue... again. Its a good I've been upstate since last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Young+ Posted July 19, 2019 Share #6390 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Daniel The Cool said: The entire IRT except for the is suspended due to a network communication issue... again. Its a good I've been upstate since last week. And this is during rush hour? Gees... Edited July 19, 2019 by +Young+ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted July 19, 2019 Share #6391 Posted July 19, 2019 is the only IRT service in Queens so that's not affected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 19, 2019 Share #6392 Posted July 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said: is the only IRT service in Queens so that's not affected. Yeah, that's it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6393 Posted July 20, 2019 The system has been fixed. All service is back up and running, but all SB service is delayed due to a sick customer at Astor Place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6394 Posted July 20, 2019 When the ATS system goes down we can use the old Command Center at 370 Jay as a backup, right ? Wait, what, there's no functional backup ? Local towers and dispatchers, right ? Wow, this hi tech advanced system has me confused. This 21st century whiz bang stuff is amazing isn't it ? Carry on. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6395 Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trainmaster5 said: When the ATS system goes down we can use the old Command Center at 370 Jay as a backup, right ? Wait, what, there's no functional backup ? Local towers and dispatchers, right ? Wow, this hi tech advanced system has me confused. This 21st century whiz bang stuff is amazing isn't it ? Carry on. I think some people don't have a true appreciation of how close to and how quickly Central Control hubs go over the brink of collapse even on normal days. "B train service will continue running to/from the Bronx after rush hour to provide additional train service for customers impacted by the service suspension on the 4 train." Look, they're learning. Also someone needs to kick the MTA and FCC in the balls to approve more radio channels. Everytime there's a disruption in the field, the one or two radio channels available become saturated and virtually unintelligible. We've gone to the micro-managing Central Control system but when it hits the fan it quite clear that Mothership can't manage the situation as it's too expansive for the minimalist staffing and total blindness to in-the-field conditions. Edited July 20, 2019 by Jsunflyguy format 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6396 Posted July 20, 2019 Local to Express Posted: 07/19/2019 9:23PM Southbound trains are running on the express track from 125 St to Grand Central-42 St because a person was struck by a train at 86 St. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6397 Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: When the ATS system goes down we can use the old Command Center at 370 Jay as a backup, right ? Wait, what, there's no functional backup ? Local towers and dispatchers, right ? Wow, this hi tech advanced system has me confused. This 21st century whiz bang stuff is amazing isn't it ? Carry on. No backup just like how all the new lines have only 2 tracks. They could at least run a parallel secondary system with 50% of the capacity of the primary system, but they don't want to pay for redundancy nowadays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Young+ Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6398 Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: When the ATS system goes down we can use the old Command Center at 370 Jay as a backup, right ? Wait, what, there's no functional backup ? Local towers and dispatchers, right ? Wow, this hi tech advanced system has me confused. This 21st century whiz bang stuff is amazing isn't it ? Carry on. My apologies for going off-topic just for a little bit, however, in my senior year of high school, I did my Senior Thesis on the "Disadvantages of Technology." I would have loved to use the examples above and below to prove my point, especially since this did hit the local media. 1 hour ago, Jsunflyguy said: Also someone needs to kick the MTA and FCC in the balls to approve more radio channels. Everytime there's a disruption in the field, the one or two radio channels available become saturated and virtually unintelligible. We've gone to the micro-managing Central Control system but when it hits the fan it quite clear that Mothership can't manage the situation as it's too expansive for the minimalist staffing and total blindness to in-the-field conditions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6399 Posted July 20, 2019 The sad part about all the ATS issues is that a well manned central control with decent physical infrastructure should actually be better at dealing with large scale disruptions than a bunch of decentralized towers. Everybody's in one room, every interlocking is staffed, all trains are visible. Issue is, of course, those two equivocations: staffing and infrastructure, neither of which MTA seems to understand how to manage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 20, 2019 Share #6400 Posted July 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, RR503 said: The sad part about all the ATS issues is that a well manned central control with decent physical infrastructure should actually be better at dealing with large scale disruptions than a bunch of decentralized towers. Everybody's in one room, every interlocking is staffed, all trains are visible. Issue is, of course, those two equivocations: staffing and infrastructure, neither of which MTA seems to understand how to manage. Isn't there a backup system in the RCC or did that fail also? (assuming a backup system actually exists...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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