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Keon Milton

Ideas for fantasy transit routes such as the San Andreas (SATA)and others

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Here's where the Los Santos bus routes run:

 

#1: Ganton - Santa Maria Beach

#4: Los Santos Transit Center (LSTC) - LSX Airport

#5: Rodeo - Unity Station

#14: Glen Park - Willowfield

#20: Willowfield - LSX Airport

#27: LSTC - Ocean Docks

#32: Rodeo - Downtown Los Santos (via Richman and Mulholland) (weekdays only)

#39: LSTC - East Beach

#44: East Beach - Unity Station

#48: LSTC - Rodeo (weekdays only)

#53: Rodeo - LSX Airport

 

Routes #2 (weekdays), #13 and #60 are already mentioned on here, so that's about it for now.

 

Imagine if we created a Richman-Idlewood bus route. There would be a whole lot of riff-raff on that route, wouldn't it? Haha!!!

 

Your routes seem alright. I could care less about riff-raff. Hell in L.A. you have routes from Watts to Beverly Hills. You don't see anyone bitch about that.

 

 

This isn't San Andreas, but Liberty City. Found this on google not too long ago.

 

http://gta4bustransit.wordpress.com/

 

If I recall, there was a site date predated this one that is now defunct. Thanks for the link.

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Your routes seem alright. I could care less about riff-raff. Hell in L.A. you have routes from Watts to Beverly Hills. You don't see anyone bitch about that.

 

 

Yes, that's true. To be honest, the type of neighborhood, be it poor or affluent, doesn't matter to me. I just create bus routes as I see fit. For example, my #2 and #60 bus routes operate between Rodeo (affluent area) and East Los Santos (poor area).

 

By the way, guys, check out the fleet roster I created for SATA below:

 

 

San Andreas Transportation Authority (SATA) Bus Fleet Roster

 

 

 

1998-1999 Nova Bus RTS-06: 6500-6799

1998-1999 Orion V: 1500-1974

1998-2000 Motor Coach Industries D4500: 3000-3399*

1999-2001 New Flyer Industries D60HF: 5000-5499

2001-2002 Motor Coach Industries D4500: 3400-3699

2001-2003 Orion VII Hybrid: 4000-4399

2003 New Flyer Industries D60HF: 5500-5599

2004-2005 Orion VII Hybrid: 4400-4699

2005-2006 Motor Coach Industries D4500CL: 3700-3899

2006-2007 Orion VII Hybrid: 4700-4899

2007-2008 Orion VII Next Generation Hybrid: 2000-2499

2008 Motor Coach Industries D4500CT: 3900-3974

2009-2010 Orion VII Next Generation Hybrid: 2500-2974

 

* MCI D4500 buses #3000-3199 are retired.

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Wow. That Liberty City system is probably TOO dense. (Plus, it's hard trying to look at those route maps one by one. :P)

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I drew routes for Pokèmon games as a kid... that was good stuff

I was too busy battling & trying to complete the pokedex to even think about doing that for pkmn....

 

 

Imagine if we created a Richman-Idlewood bus route. There would be a whole lot of riff-raff on that route, wouldn't it? Haha!!!

lol.... aside from the undesirables, I don't see many people taking that north of "mulholland drive" (which is where richman lies) either way....

 

 

Your routes seem alright. I could care less about riff-raff. Hell in L.A. you have routes from Watts to Beverly Hills. You don't see anyone bitch about that.
Yes, that's true. To be honest, the type of neighborhood, be it poor or affluent, doesn't matter to me. I just create bus routes as I see fit. For example, my #2 and #60 bus routes operate between Rodeo (affluent area) and East Los Santos (poor area).

Well, Different strokes for different folks..... You or whoever else don't have to factor in "riff raff"....

I think it makes creating these routes a little more fun & challenging, not just drawing up lines anywhere for the sake of doing so....

 

 

Wow. That Liberty City system is probably TOO dense.

(Plus, it's hard trying to look at those route maps one by one. :P)

 

Never played Liberty City.... my lil brother has the game though....

if GTA:SA didn't have places like tierra robada, flint county, bone county, red county, and whetstone, one could create just as an extensive system like dude did there for liberty city....

 

checkin out the link on that side did give me an idea though.... if I have the time, I'll make a flash movie where you can punch in the route number for the GTA:SA routes& it'll show the destination sign for that route (instead of creating individual .gif destination signs).... This is something I had wanted to do for the real MTA routes a couple years back, but never got around to it.....

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Here's where the Los Santos bus routes run:

 

#1: Ganton - Santa Maria Beach

#4: Los Santos Transit Center (LSTC) - LSX Airport

#5: Rodeo - Unity Station

#14: Glen Park - Willowfield

#20: Willowfield - LSX Airport

#27: LSTC - Ocean Docks

#32: Rodeo - Downtown Los Santos (via Richman and Mulholland) (weekdays only)

#39: LSTC - East Beach

#44: East Beach - Unity Station

#48: LSTC - Rodeo (weekdays only)

#53: Rodeo - LSX Airport

 

Routes #2 (weekdays), #13 and #60 are already mentioned on here, so that's about it for now.

Rather than comment on each one, I'll do it like this:

 

- Hmm... You have quite a bit of routes going to rodeo, I see.... I'm only going to have 2 local routes serving rodeo.... one directly to the airport (no intermediate stops) & the other'll just go on to serve market (the area) & conference center.... I'll probably have a couple express routes in rodeo, to areas in san fierro & las venturas....

 

- What it looks like you have your #4 doing, is what I'm working on with my market - los santos airport route.... it's going to go from the rail station, encircling downtown los santos, and then dive onto the mulholland intersection to serve the airport..... I was driving such a route yesterday in the game...

 

- Instead of the "LSTC", I'm using market station, unity station, and that little lane where you see a lot of ppl. in beach attire walkin around in playa del seville (across the street, just east of the los santos forum), as major terminals for the local bus system... The LSTC as you call it, I'll reserve as a terminal for the express buses that enter los santos..... I'll have maybe one or two local buses serving the LSTC to go on to other areas; a midpoint if you will.....

 

- I don't know how you're routing these things, but have you ever thought of combining your 14 & your 20 ?

Guess what I'm trying to figure out is, where are you terminating buses in Willowfield?

 

- If your 44 runs from east beach, to los flores, east los santos, jefferson, idlewood, en route to unity station, that's a good idea....

 

- What you have your 53 doing, is exactly I was thinking about yesterday as I was drawing up my 88 route (which is now finished... I'll post a capture of the map like I did for my #2 if you'd like).... Regardless, thanks...

I'll even keep the route number you chose & give you the credit.

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Rather than comment on each one, I'll do it like this:

 

- Hmm... You have quite a bit of routes going to rodeo, I see.... I'm only going to have 2 local routes serving rodeo.... one directly to the airport (no intermediate stops) & the other'll just go on to serve market (the area) & conference center.... I'll probably have a couple express routes in rodeo, to areas in san fierro & las venturas....

 

- What it looks like you have your #4 doing, is what I'm working on with my market - los santos airport route.... it's going to go from the rail station, encircling downtown los santos, and then dive onto the mulholland intersection to serve the airport..... I was driving such a route yesterday in the game...

 

- Instead of the "LSTC", I'm using market station, unity station, and that little lane where you see a lot of ppl. in beach attire walkin around in playa del seville (across the street, just east of the los santos forum), as major terminals for the local bus system... The LSTC as you call it, I'll reserve as a terminal for the express buses that enter los santos..... I'll have maybe one or two local buses serving the LSTC to go on to other areas; a midpoint if you will.....

 

- I don't know how you're routing these things, but have you ever thought of combining your 14 & your 20 ?

Guess what I'm trying to figure out is, where are you terminating buses in Willowfield?

 

- If your 44 runs from east beach, to los flores, east los santos, jefferson, idlewood, en route to unity station, that's a good idea....

 

- What you have your 53 doing, is exactly I was thinking about yesterday as I was drawing up my 88 route (which is now finished... I'll post a capture of the map like I did for my #2 if you'd like).... Regardless, thanks...

I'll even keep the route number you chose & give you the credit.

 

 

1) You know, that's a good idea. I could combine the 14 and 20 routes because they terminate on the east side of the train tracks (SATA Railroad) in Willowfield from Glen Park and LSX Airport, respectively. Combining these routes into one would allow a one-seat ride from Glen Park to LSX Airport, while still serving Willowfield. It would be a more uniform route at that.

 

2) The 53 route serves Rodeo, Verona Beach and LSX Airport via the major roadway (I call Los Santos Avenue) in southwestern Los Santos. Speaking of Rodeo, I might cut the 60 route back from there to terminate at Market Station instead.

 

3) No problem, bro. :)

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San Andreas Transportation Authority (SATA) Bus Fleet Roster

 

1996-1998 Nova Bus RTS-06: 6000-6499*

1998-1999 Nova Bus RTS-06: 6500-6799

1998-1999 Orion V: 1500-1974

1998-2000 Motor Coach Industries D4500: 3000-3399**

1999-2001 New Flyer Industries D60HF: 5000-5499

2001-2002 Motor Coach Industries D4500: 3400-3699

2001-2003 Orion VII Hybrid: 4000-4399

2003 New Flyer Industries D60HF: 5500-5599

2004-2005 Orion VII Hybrid: 4400-4699

2005-2006 Motor Coach Industries D4500CL: 3700-3899

2006-2007 Orion VII Hybrid: 4700-4899

2007-2008 Orion VII Next Generation Hybrid: 2000-2499

2008 Motor Coach Industries D4500CT: 3900-3974

2009-2010 Orion VII Next Generation Hybrid: 2500-2974

 

* Nova Bus RTS-06 buses #6000-6249 are retired from service.

** MCI D4500 buses #3000-3199 are retired from service.

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Created a couple new routes I've been driving in the game (know em by heart w/o looking at the printout).....

I'll list them after someone replies after this reply (as to not double-post) ...

 

In any event, this one's my fav' so far:

#88 (local/limited): Temple/Vinewood - Los Santos intl airport (upper level only)

 

screenshot of map of route:

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I didn't draw in direction arrows for any of the routes yet, so I know it looks confusing as hell....

 

The dotted line you see there is the 88 limited segment - It goes nonstop from conference center to los santos coliseum/terminal, then from there straight to the airport..... only the 88 local serves pershing sq., little mexico, el corona/unity station & willowfield....

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Kmilton, have you created any routes lately ?

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Kmilton, have you created any routes lately?

 

 

Yes, B35 fam, but only one. Known as the #56, the route operates between Los Santos City Hall and the Los Santos Forum, serving El Corona, Willowfield, Playa del Seville and East Beach.

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Islandberg Transit Authority:

 

In wake of my CiM map (WiP, don't nag me), I have created bus & subway routes to go with it. The routes for Algonquin Island (yes, that is from Liberty City) are done:

 

#1 & #1 LTD: Algonquin Avenue

#2 & #2 LTD: Hudson Blvd

#3A, #3A LTD, and #3R: Dukes Blvd

#4/4A/5: Market Street

#6: Avenue C/D/E

#7: Avenue H/I

#8: West Bank

#9: South Islands

#30: 10th Street/Bergen Street

#31: 10th Street

#32: 20th Street

#33: 30th Street

#34: 40th Street

#35: 50th Street

#36: 25th/15th Streets

#37: 30th Street/Avenue C/D

 

Map coming soon.

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Here's a SATA bus route: #346. It operates between Fort Carson, SA and the Redsands section of Las Venturas, SA via Julius Thruway West.

 

Communities served:

Fort Carson

Redsands West

Redsands East

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A project I've been working on since 2008: the Redpit Island Transit Authority (RITA, for short). It's a Toronto-esque city with a vast transit system. Most of the buses and all of the streetcars are based off models operated at some point by the TTC, and the subway fleet is a mix of TTC and MTA stock. Here is the current November roster:

 

Bus:

 

1988 New Flyer Industries D40 (88-9060 – 88-9119)

Currently in service: 54

 

1990 New Flyer Industries D40 (90-9120 - 90-9149)

Currently in service: 29

 

1992 MCI TC60-102N (92-7000 – 92-7005)

Currently in service: 6 (all)

 

1993 New Flyer Industries D60 (93-7010 – 93-7029)

Currently in service: 20 (all)

 

1995-1996 Orion Bus Industries 05.501 (95-7300 – 95-7340, 96-7341 – 96-7399)

Currently in service: 100 (all)

 

1997 Orion Bus Industries 05.501 'Lift' (97-9150 – 97-9299)

Currently in service: 150 (all)

 

1998 Orion Bus Industries 06.501 (98-7400 – 98-7419)

Currently in service: 7

 

1999 New Flyer Industries D40LF (99-3600 – 99-3649)

Currently in service: 50 (all)

 

2000-2001 New Flyer Industries D60LF (00-9300 – 00-9399, 01-9400-01-9449)

Currently in service: 150 (all)

 

2001-2002 Orion Bus Industries 07.501 (01-3650 – 01-3699, 02-3700 – 02-3758)

Currently in service: 108

 

2003 Orion Bus Industries 07.501 (03-9450 – 03-9517)

Currently in service: 68 (all)

 

2004-2006 Orion Bus Industries 07.501 (04-7420 – 04-7499, 05-7500 – 05-7581, 06-7582 – 06-7599)

Number in service: 174

 

2007 Orion Bus Industries 07.501 (07-9520 – 07-9609)

Currently in service: 90 (all)

 

2008-2009 New Flyer Industries D40LF (08-7600 – 08-7619, 09-7620 – 09-7625)

Currently in service: 26 (all)

 

2010 ElDorado National E-Z Rider II MAX (10-7630 – 10-7699)

Currently in service: 70 (all)

 

2011-2012 Orion International 07.501 EPA2010 (11-7700 – 11-7714, 12-7715 – 12-7826)

Number in service: 127

 

Streetcars:

 

1978-1981 Hawker-Siddeley/UTDC Canadian Light Rail Vehicle (1000-1189)

Number in service: 188

 

1987-1989 UTDC/Can-Car Rail Articulated Light Rail Vehicle (1200-1261)

Number in service: 62 (all)

 

Subway:

 

1964 Budd R32 (5000-5599)

Number in service: 74

 

1976-1979 Hawker-Siddeley H5 (6670-6809)

Number in service: 134

 

1983-1987 Kawasaki R62/Bombardier R62A (8040-8139 (R62), 8140-8399 (R62A))

Number in service: 360 (all)

 

1987-1990 UTDC/Can-Car Rail H6 (6810-6909)

Number in service: 94

 

1996-1999 Bombardier T1 (6000-6361)

Number in service: 362 (all)

 

1999-2001 Kawasaki R142A (8400-8499)

Number in service: 100 (all)

 

2001-2002 Kawasaki R143 (8500-8539)

Number in service: 40 (all)

 

2009-2012 Redpit Car Company RR1 (6400-6475)

Number in service: 76 (currently being built and delivered)

 

And now, to answer some possible questions:

 

Q: What kind of car is the RR1?

A: It's a freelance design, invented by myself. They largely resemble the Bombardier T1s, but they run in single units and are not nearly as reliable.

 

Q: Do MTA A division cars (R62/A) run alongside B division cars (R32)?

A: Yes, yes they do.

 

Q: Would this not cause issues, with a substantial gap between the car and platform?

A: Yes, yes it would. Solution: the RITA specified for Bombardier and Kawasaki to attach "running boards" to the sides of the trains, by the doors. At first I thought this was some crazy foamer's dream but a friend of mine pointed out some real transit systems which did much the same, namely Berlin and Madrid. The former installed wooden running boards to their narrower stock during times of economic hardship; the difference between Berlin and Redpit Island is that Redpit's stock had metal boards attached and they were added while the cars were being built. Also, all NYC-based cars are built to TTC standards; different voltage and gauge.

 

Q: Was purchasing such a large amount of D60LFs an intelligent move by the transit agency?

A: No, no it was not.

 

Q: How many subway lines do you have?

A: Four full ones: Broadview/Bay Street, Sunnybrook, Flushing and Downtown Express. There are also two shuttle routes; East End and West End.

 

Q: What lengths of trains does the system run?

A: 51 ft. cars run in 8 car (R142A) or 9 car (R62A) trains. 60 ft. cars run in 8 car trains. 75 ft. cars run in 6 car trains. Every station platform is 510 ft. long.

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This would be my fleet of LSMTA:

-1999-2000 New Flyer C40LFs #1600-1799 (being retired)

-2004-2006 Orion VII OG CNGs #2500-2730 (40ft) (being rehabbed)

-2007 Orion VII CNG #3000-3039 (30ft) (being rehabbed)

1991-1994 TMC RTS's #1000-1599 (being retired)

1995-2001 Orion Vs # 4200-4549, #4600-5194 (Some retired).

1995 Orion V CNGs #4000-4189 (Most retired).

1996-2000 Novabus RTS's #9101-9950 (Many retired).

2001-2002 Orion Vs #5200-5309 (30ft).

2006-2007 Orion VII OG hybrids# 8000-8524.

2007-2010 Orion VII NG hybrids #8550-9049.

2011 Orion VII 3G hybrids #6000-6399.

2012 Novabus LFSA #6400-6639.

2012-2013 New Flyer C40LFRs # 2000-2299.

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For SFTA, my fleet would be:

-1995-1998 Novabus RTS's #200-799 (being retired).

-1996-1999 Orion Vs # 1000-1459.

-1999-2000 Orion V CNGs #1460-1759 (being retired).

2003-2004 New Flyer D60HFs #5000-5300

2004-2005 MCI D4500CL #7000-7170.

2007-2009 New Flyer DE42LFAs #6000-6649.

2009 Orion VII NG hybrid #6650-6999.

2011-2013 Orion VII 3G CNG #1760-2059.

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My LVTP fleet would have:

-1997 Gillig phantoms #400-479.(being retired)

1990 Flexible Metro Bs #9000-9384.(most retired)

1992 Orion Vs #9600-9799.(most retired)

1993-94 Orion Vs #4200-4450.(many retired)

1997 Orion V CNGs #7200-7399(being retired)

2000 Gillig Phantoms #500-829.

2000 Orion Vs #2100-2299.

2000-2001 New Flyer C40LF #2300-2599.

2005 Orion VII OG CNGs #5000-5319.

2007 Orion VII OG hybrids #8000-8499.

2012 Orion VII 3G CNGs #5320-5619.

2012-2013 Orion VII 3G hybrids #8500-8899.

2012 New Flyer XDE60s #2700-2759.

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Here's a little something for Las Venturas

LAS VENTURAS BUS ROUTES

 

Fare: $1.50 Fleet: Orion VII for local routes, In Game Bus for Buses to San Fierro and Bone County

 

#1 Las Venturas Strip and Julius Thruway South to Yellow Bell Train Station + Golf Course via Venturas Strip

#2 The Venturas Strip Loop: Las Venturas Strip and Julius Thruway South to The Emerald Isle via The Strip

#3 Four Dragons Casino to Linden Station via The Strip

#4 Four Dragons Casino to Las Venturas Airport via The Strip

#5 Greenglass College to Yellow Bell Train Station

#6 Greenglass College to Linden Station

#7 Creek Shopping Center to The High Roller via Old Venturas Strip and the Strip

#8 El Quebrados to Four Dragons Casino via Harry Gold Parkway and Bone County Road

#9 Cranberry Station to Las Venturas Airport via Harry Gold Parkway and Bone Country Road

* Las Venturas Route 9 and 9a don't serve Bone County. For service to El Quebrados, Las Payasdas, and the Tee Pee Motel, please take Route 8.

#9a Pier 69 to Las Venturas Airport via Harry Gold Parkway and Bone County Road

 

HIPPY's CAMPER TOURS

Fare: $1.00 Fleet: In Game Camper

 

The Desert Loop: Serves Fort Carson, Las Barrancas, El Quebrados, Las Payasdas, Octane Springs

Angel Pine Shuttle: Cranberry Train Station to Angel Pine Medical Center

Blueberry Shuttle: Serves Cranberry Train Station, Easter Bay Aiport, Blueberry Acres, and Blueberry

Edited by NY1635

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Since the thread has been dormant for some time I'll add something.

 

Below you'll see my "system map" for GTA: SA, showcasing how extensive my sytstem actually is. This was done in MS Paint. Could be of better quality, but I did it in 15 minutes and I think it's self explanatory.

 

 

 

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Any criticism regarding the "routes"?

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