Eric Kreszl Posted July 14, 2008 Share #1 Posted July 14, 2008 We are going to use this for a roster of all NJ Transit passenger cars still in Revenue service on the railroad as a general guide to the passenger cars. Information regarding the passenger cars will be updated. Comet I Cab Cars #5100-5134 Comet I Coaches # 5707-5751 Built by Pullman-Standard 1971 used by Erie Lackawanna under NJDOT Ownership Comet IB Cab Cars #5155-5169 Comet IB Coaches #5220-5234 Built By St. Louis Car Company from Former NJDOT Arrow I Multiple Unit cars (MU's) and rebuilt by Morrison-Knudsen in 1987-1988 Comet II Cab Cars #5137-5145, #5147-5154 Comet II Coaches #5300-5440 #5441-5458,5460 Comet II Cab Control cars and coaches were all rebuilt and overhauled into Comet IIM Coaches to operate with Comet III/Comet 4 equipment. NO COMET IIM CAB CARS EXIST! Comet III Cab Cars #5000-5010 Comet III Coaches #5500-5534 Comet III Cab Control Cars #5009 and 5010 were traded from Metro-North. Traces of Metro-North logos and lettering can be seen on both Cab Cars. Comet 4 Cab Cars #5011-5031 Comet 4 Coaches #5535-5582 Comet 5 Cab Cars #6000-6199 Comet 5 Coaches #6200-6299, #6500-6699 Comet 6 Multi-Level Cab Cars #7000-7032 Comet 6 Multi-level Coaches #7200-7285, #7500-7611 Comet 6 Multi-level cars both cab and coach cars CAN NOT operate at Hoboken Terminal as doors are too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Posted July 14, 2008 Share #2 Posted July 14, 2008 This is a complete Rolling Stock Roster of what NJT is currently operating.... CLICK HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted July 14, 2008 Share #3 Posted July 14, 2008 Comet 6 Multi-level cars both cab and coach cars CAN NOT operate at Hoboken Terminal as doors are too low.I guess so since they look fine on Track 18 compared to Track 17.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 17, 2009 Share #4 Posted February 17, 2009 *Bump* There is a multilevel cab car 7033! Also the multilevels can now operate in and out of Hoboken as shown by the mess two weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 17, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 17, 2009 *Bump* There is a multilevel cab car 7033! Also the multilevels can now operate in and out of Hoboken as shown by the mess two weeks ago. I gotta see photos of that.:eek: I knew they could roll around there, if the diesels can clear it the multilevels should too. They were specifically designed to fit the smallest loading gauge in (NJT) territory which is the east river tunnels to sunnyside yard. Speaking of the mess the other day, i saw the catenary repair vehicle at NYP, and on saturday i saw at least 4 trains sitting outside the tunnel in nj lined up with a work vehicle and amtk people. 2 were amfleet consists, and 2 were (NJT). It appeared they were in one tunnel mode likely going back to do a more thorough repair & inspection. When will the next round of multilevels be coming in & what is their number series? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted February 17, 2009 I gotta see photos of that.:eek: I knew they could roll around there, if the diesels can clear it the multilevels should too. They were specifically designed to fit the smallest loading gauge in (NJT) territory which is the east river tunnels to sunnyside yard. Speaking of the mess the other day, i saw the catenary repair vehicle at NYP, and on saturday i saw at least 4 trains sitting outside the tunnel in nj lined up with a work vehicle and amtk people. 2 were amfleet consists, and 2 were (NJT). It appeared they were in one tunnel mode likely going back to do a more thorough repair & inspection. When will the next round of multilevels be coming in & what is their number series? - A Here are some photos of the Multi-Levels at Hoboken. http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1480251 http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1480252 http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1480253 I know that I have posted these photos elsewhere on this (NJT) forum. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted February 17, 2009 Share #7 Posted February 17, 2009 They should've built the Comet VIs with doors like the C3s. Comet VIs would be needed at Hoboken sooner or later. Also, Comet III 5009 and 5010 have been traded back to MNRR and retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 17, 2009 Share #8 Posted February 17, 2009 Nice photos ! Very interesting to see them at a low platform across from comet 5!!:eek: The miltilevels are not "comet 6", and they can't have middle doors as there is nowhere to put it..... - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted February 17, 2009 Nice photos ! Very interesting to see them at a low platform across from comet 5!!:eek: The miltilevels are not "comet 6", and they can't have middle doors as there is nowhere to put it..... - A The Multi-level cars are considered Comet 6 cars. The number of doors on the car have no bearing on the fact either. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #10 Posted February 18, 2009 Isn't all Comet IB currently up in Canada running Montirol service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted February 18, 2009 Isn't all Comet IB currently up in Canada running Montirol service? Yes. Some of NJ Transit's Comet IB passenger cars are in Canada operated by the agency AMT. I do not no how many cars were sent to them though. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #12 Posted February 18, 2009 There are no Comet 6's they are Multilevels, COMETS are single level cars, Eric and I talked about this a few hours ago on the phone. Comets are Single level cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 18, 2009 Share #13 Posted February 18, 2009 There are no Comet 6's they are Multilevels, COMETS are single level cars, Eric and I talked about this a few hours ago on the phone. Comets are Single level cars. Indeed. B) Comets and shoreliners are akin to arrow 3 and silverliner 3. Similar, related, but not identical. The multilevels are a totally unique design in many aspects from end + quarter point doors, the size of the mezzanine, the very low profile form factor compared to bilevels other RR's use. The only analogue i can think of which are not similar or related are the LIRR bilevels. They only have quarterpoint doors, have a very small mezzanine area etc etc. I don't expect most people to end up calling them multilevels, but hey, at least people know they exist & like them! B) - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted February 18, 2009 Indeed. B) Comets and shoreliners are akin to arrow 3 and silverliner 3. Similar, related, but not identical. The multilevels are a totally unique design in many aspects from end + quarter point doors, the size of the mezzanine, the very low profile form factor compared to bilevels other RR's use. The only analogue i can think of which are not similar or related are the LIRR bilevels. They only have quarterpoint doors, have a very small mezzanine area etc etc. I don't expect most people to end up calling them multilevels, but hey, at least people know they exist & like them! B) - A Even though they technically are Bi-Level cars I refer to them as Multi-Levels to distinguish them from other Bi-level cars operated by other commuter rail transit agencies. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #15 Posted February 18, 2009 They are Multilevels according to NJ Transit and Bombardier, there is no Comet 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 18, 2009 Share #16 Posted February 18, 2009 They are Multilevels according to NJ Transit and Bombardier, there is no Comet 6. Well mostly because the mezzanine is where the doors are, vs a "double deck" where the doors are on the bottom. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted February 18, 2009 Well mostly because the mezzanine is where the doors are, vs a "double deck" where the doors are on the bottom. - A That's a diagram of the Standard Bombardier Bi-Level car. Not the NJ Transit Version. The NJ Transit version of course has end doors for both high level and low level platforms. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #18 Posted February 18, 2009 It does not matter the reason behind it, what ever they are called by Bombradier and Transit is all that matters. Technically speaking those have Mulitlevels as well but they are know as Bilevels lets leave it at that. Eric, did you list the ACES cars as part of the Multilevels? They are in the 29 series I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 18, 2009 Share #19 Posted February 18, 2009 They are groovy shiny fun to ride in coaches, how bout that? :cool: What is the status of comet 3 cab cars? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted February 18, 2009 They are groovy shiny fun to ride in coaches, how bout that? :cool: What is the status of comet 3 cab cars? - A The Comet III Cab Control Cars once the top of the Line for NJ Transit's Electric ALP-44 consists now operate mostly on the Diesel trains out of Hoboken Terminal but every now and then can be seen on a ALP-44 or ALP-46 electric consist on the NJT system. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #21 Posted February 18, 2009 There are Comet III's mixed in a couple of ALP sets. Most of them however stay down on the Bay Head Trains from recent observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #22 Posted February 18, 2009 There are Comet III's mixed in a couple of ALP sets. Most of them however stay down on the Bay Head Trains from recent observations. Most of the other NJ Transit diesel trains will have either comet 4 or Comet 5 Cab Control Cars on them. the only exception to this rule right now is one :rvl:PL42AC consist that has 5 or 6 Multi-level cars on them. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #23 Posted February 18, 2009 Most of the IIm's speaking of the :rvl: hang around there as six car sets with the seventh car being a Comet V. The :ac: has for the most part the IV's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 18, 2009 Share #24 Posted February 18, 2009 Yea, if you hang at nwk a few days in a row during peak hours you will see the same consist. I think they do this to reduce yard workload. I have seen a :rvl: multilevel, but it was inbound. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #25 Posted February 18, 2009 I have caught the ML set on the :rvl: a few times. Roselle Park: http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1449404 Bound Brook: http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1461943 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1449484 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1465433 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1465434 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1465435 They change the cab and locomotive but its always six cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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