Jump to content
Attention: In order to reply to messages, create topics, have access to other features of the community you must sign up for an account.
Sign in to follow this  
FamousNYLover

Staten Island Bus Proposal Thread 2012-2013

Recommended Posts

5 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

There are politics with most agencies.  That said, the (MTA) is looking to lower costs, not add to them by running buses into other states.  Additionally, I don't think too many Staten Island elected officials are pushing for such connections, not enough to get anything done anyway.  Staten Island is still very car centric, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

It's hilarious... Years ago when I was living there, I noticed I gained a few pounds, in part because I was getting in cars when I was on the island and not walking.  

Between stress (my father was in hospice in California, and I worked for two shitheads, pardon my English) and walking up the Hamilton Av mountain, I lost hella weight being on SI.

But what I wouldn’t give for a bus over the Bayonne to Walmart - even if it’s hourly. I imagine they’d need an artic just because of the ridership that’d go there just for the groceries ($125 at ShopRite = $90-100 at Walmart).

But you know I feel like the entire Metro area should have better links to areas that aren’t in BdB’s jurisdictions. And with SI - since so many of us go to Jersey vs Manhattan, it could be a potential growth area for (MTA) and possibly (NJT). Definitely could make the air better on both sides.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

There are politics with most agencies.  That said, the (MTA) is looking to lower costs, not add to them by running buses into other states.  Additionally, I don't think too many Staten Island elected officials are pushing for such connections, not enough to get anything done anyway.  Staten Island is still very car centric, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

It's hilarious... Years ago when I was living there, I noticed I gained a few pounds, in part because I was getting in cars when I was on the island and not walking.  

It will be looked at closely when it comes time to do the Staten Island local redesign. The planner said that was the number one request that came up during the public feedback sessions

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

It will be looked at closely when it comes time to do the Staten Island local redesign. The planner said that was the number one request that came up during the public feedback sessions

Well if they do it, I expect them to cut something somewhere else. Byford is on record as saying that they are operating with a "shoe string" budget. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Days 12345 - Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri (for purposes of this thread)

One thing I would propose for the S93---based on actual observations:

On the trips before a change in schedule (CSI class time starts on weekdays are: 8 AM, 10:10 AM, 12:20 PM, 2:30 PM (135), 4:40 PM (1234), and 6:30 PM (1234)). Even with ramping bus service to no worse than 12 minutes (scheduled), you have the problem of buses leaving Bay Ridge crush-loaded, meaning they cannot accept any passengers intra-island. Taking advantage of the higher speed cap on the blue-and-yellow LFS buses (45 mph as opposed to 40 mph for the rest of the fleet), I would propose creating S93X trips...with the first stop in Staten Island being at Targee Street, bypassing Fingerboard Road and St. John's Avenue (passengers for those stops could use the S79 SBS instead). Here, a regular S93 trip would start at Fingerboard Road as a deadhead off of another route, to provide intra-island service. These local trips would replace the regular S93 trips that depart Bay Ridge at: 9:22 AM, 11:22 AM, 1:34 PM (135), 3:46 PM (1234), and 5:34 PM (1234).

Also, I would propose limited Saturday service on the S93, running from 7 AM (Bay Ridge departure) to 5 PM, with departures at 7 AM and 7:30 AM, and then every 45 minutes afterward until 5:15 PM being the last Bay Ridge departure (CSI departs 45 minutes later).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, aemoreira81 said:

Days 12345 - Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri (for purposes of this thread)

One thing I would propose for the S93---based on actual observations:

On the trips before a change in schedule (CSI class time starts on weekdays are: 8 AM, 10:10 AM, 12:20 PM, 2:30 PM (135), 4:40 PM (1234), and 6:30 PM (1234)). Even with ramping bus service to no worse than 12 minutes (scheduled), you have the problem of buses leaving Bay Ridge crush-loaded, meaning they cannot accept any passengers intra-island. Taking advantage of the higher speed cap on the blue-and-yellow LFS buses (45 mph as opposed to 40 mph for the rest of the fleet), I would propose creating S93X trips...with the first stop in Staten Island being at Targee Street, bypassing Fingerboard Road and St. John's Avenue (passengers for those stops could use the S79 SBS instead). Here, a regular S93 trip would start at Fingerboard Road as a deadhead off of another route, to provide intra-island service. These local trips would replace the regular S93 trips that depart Bay Ridge at: 9:22 AM, 11:22 AM, 1:34 PM (135), 3:46 PM (1234), and 5:34 PM (1234).

Also, I would propose limited Saturday service on the S93, running from 7 AM (Bay Ridge departure) to 5 PM, with departures at 7 AM and 7:30 AM, and then every 45 minutes afterward until 5:15 PM being the last Bay Ridge departure (CSI departs 45 minutes later).

There should be S93X trips that run nonstop from CSI (front gate in addition to 1A building) to/from 92nd Street/Fort Hamilton Parkway. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

There should be S93X trips that run nonstop from CSI (front gate in addition to 1A building) to/from 92nd Street/Fort Hamilton Parkway. 

If the fleet was not capped at 40 mph (45 mph for the blue-yellow LFS buses), I'd agree with that, but those buses would be a hazard on the road coming into and out of Sunnyside. When frequencies were much less, I once ended up on an S93 told to go straight to the college---it was terrible capped at 40 mph on the SI Expressway.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, aemoreira81 said:

If the fleet was not capped at 40 mph (45 mph for the blue-yellow LFS buses), I'd agree with that, but those buses would be a hazard on the road coming into and out of Sunnyside. When frequencies were much less, I once ended up on an S93 told to go straight to the college---it was terrible capped at 40 mph on the SI Expressway.

Then uncap them lol ... in any case, I've seen plenty of local buses using the SIE to deadhead to/from Brooklyn (usually to/from Castleton Depot)...they manage, and it helps that they're traveling in the reverse-peak direction.

Technically the speed limit for buses in the HOV is 35 mph, so it's no worse than being stuck behind a bus driver going by the book. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My latest blog post: https://checkmatechamp1.blogspot.com/2019/11/remaining-issues-by-area.html?fbclid=IwAR0Y_iWq_HFanPW4P4YpNlb_DMGmqoxqqBZ5rC47KVCSVdmtgVb90VuBl2U

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.