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A quote from a prominent Asian American writer Daniel Hyukjoon Choi:

 

Charlie Chan never uses the first person pronouns "I" or "we" but speaks in the passive voice and prefaces all his remarks with apologies… Devil and angel, the Chinese is a sexual joke glorifying white power. Dr. Fu [Manchu], a man wearing a long dress, batting his eyelashes, surrounded by muscular black servants in loin cloths, and with his bad habit of caressingly touching white men on the leg, wrist, and face with his long fingernails is not so much a threat as he is a frivolous offense to white manhood.

 

 

From prominent Asian American Activist Amy Uyematsu:

 

"Precisely because Asian Americans have become economically secure, do they face serious identity problems. Fully committed to a system that subordinates them on the basis of non-whiteness, Asian Americans still try to gain complete acceptance by denying their yellowness. They have become white in every respect but color."

 

And a very well known and respected civil rights activist, Frank Chin:

 

"To become white, you shit in your blood, hate yourself and all your kind."

 

 

Link: http://www.hcs.harva...92/ys92_20.html

 

These pdfs explains in detail the sexualized racism perpertrated against Asian American women:

 

Link: http://faculty.law.m...--SuzieWong.pdf

 

Link: http://wxy.seu.edu.c...59.pdf#page=268

 

This topic was brought up from a side topic in a thread in the off lounge sub-forum concerning stereotypes and racist stereotypes perpretrated Asians that was discussed very recently.

 

The reality as these activists has stated: Many Asians today are locked in into a new form of racism that in many ways are unique. From being mystical kung fu masters to exotic Asian female dragon ladies protrayed in porn with nothing else to strive for in life but to please the white man to people at your local restaurant who serve dog and pigeon with your fried rice.

 

I must mention again that this particular form of racism is not a cut and dry black on white issue. Many factors must be considered such as the upbringing, national origin and social status of each and every Asian American individual on this soil.

 

Oh and what is the point? Sounds too intensed or far fetched? Well many Asian Americans are dealing with a vicious form of racist discrimination that is a distinct animal in itself. That's how it was designed.

 

Many people would like to hear different opinions on this hot topic yet invisible and elusive topic on the Asian American experience. Express yourselves as you wish, but please refrain from abusive comments. I'm sure everyone here would like intelligent discussion.

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And realizm lets see where this thread goes.If there is a mature discussion it can be very informative. However if this gets out of hand, i.e insults, flame wars, etc. it will be a wrap.

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Good. That's what many of us want, intelligent and respectful discussion.

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I'm sorry, I had to. :P

 

As has been previously said, let's have intelligent discussion. (Discounting what is above)

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6f6.gif

 

I'm sorry, I had to. :P

 

As has been previously said, let's have intelligent discussion. (Discounting what is above)

 

 

Yeah, that was REALLY intelligent.

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A lot of asian stuff has made it into american culture such as anime and karate. I dont see assimilation into american culture, if it brings about economic prosperity, as a bad thing.

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I'm was born with Asian blood but raised by an Italian family, does that make me a racial target?

 

So does this account for the racial things against African-American's or the Caucasian's? You know the common, fried chicken nonsense, grape soda bullshit, the overly used in the 90's "white men can't jump" or the they can't dance nonsense?

 

Racism is everywhere targeting every race, not only Asian's. So what if people make fun on the Asian's with the kung-fu or karate, it was part of our past and current heritage, if they can't accept it; then screw them.

 

I just laugh at whoever tries to use my blood as a backbone of any form of joke. I just brush it off.

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Everyone love to be offended by something these days... I just like offending others more.

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Everyone love to be offended by something these days... I just like offending others more.

 

 

It doesn't mean that you should be offensive, but I agree, everything that has even a remote chance at being offensive gets censored. It's sad...

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I'm was born with Asian blood but raised by an Italian family, does that make me a racial target? So does this account for the racial things against African-American's or the Caucasian's? You know the common, fried chicken nonsense, grape soda bullshit, the overly used in the 90's "white men can't jump" or the they can't dance nonsense?

 

There is such a thing as the whitewashed apologetic Asian. Who don't do any good for the image of Asians in this country by opening up the way for people to develop the wrong attitudes towards all Asian Americans.

 

The fact remains tha racism comes in different forms. Do you see whites talk about Asians eating fried chicken and spitting watermelon seeds? No it's all about us being misintepreted as token white citizens. That's because Asians are bombarded with racial stereotypes that is differs from what Afro-Americans have to deal with.

 

As for white men who can't jump, they are on the very top of the socio-economic structure. They have the tool of white privilage that they use as their form of the race card in a way that speaks racist microaggression. Does that excuse their actions?

 

Everyone love to be offended by something these days... I just like offending others more.

 

 

Some people that harbor resentment against people of color seems more offended then the people they go out of their way to offend.

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Racism is everywhere targeting every race, not only Asian's. So what if people make fun on the Asian's with the kung-fu or karate, it was part of our past and current heritage, if they can't accept it; then screw them.

 

 

You are talking about of some people of color that spews reverse racism. And that includes some other Asian Americans. I can see where you are coming from.

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You're basically saying racism and stereotyping Asians is against humanity. You're trying to say that being racist to Asians specifically is way worse then being racists and stereotyping other people.

 

I see what you did there. This is not even a discussion.

 

There is such a thing as the whitewashed apologetic Asian. Who don't do any good for the image of Asians in this country by opening up the way for people to develop the wrong attitudes towards all Asian Americans.

 

 

Really? Really? All the whitewashed Asian's I know still have Asian heritage. Just because one dresses and acts differently doesn't justify them being any good of an Asian. I've seen Caucasian's acting Asian, but still live up a Caucasian lifestyle, but it doesn't matter right? To you, they are just a waste of air.

 

Psh.

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Yeah, when does the discussion part come in?

 

People stereotype because certain groups of people tend to have the same characteristics. White people do all sorts of silly things, just like every other race. Why does it matter? We all do it regardless of whether we say we do or not.

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You're basically saying racism and stereotyping Asians is against humanity.

 

So I guess you are trying to say is that ignoring the issue and hiding behind the curtain over issues dealing with Asians confronted with racism is the answer. Pretending that racist hate does'nt exist even though you may be negatively influenced by it every day and not even realize it.

 

You're trying to say that being racist to Asians specifically is way worse then being racists and stereotyping other people.

 

Wow, what? OK so what you're saying is that it's always better to be a racist then, period. Gotcha.

 

I've seen Caucasian's acting Asian, but still live up a Caucasian lifestyle, but it doesn't matter right? To you, they are just a waste of air.

 

Psh.

 

 

Exactly. Thank you.

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Why does it matter? We all do it regardless of whether we say we do or not.

 

 

If that philosophy works for you all the power to you. I just don't necessarily try to paint the overall picture with a broad brush. It's not that simple.

 

Yeah, when does the discussion part come in?

 

Not every single person is going to have the same opinion as yours. Part of a discussion entails debate on differing opinions. That's because everyone's different, unique in themselves with different experiences in life to tell.

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Really? Really? All the whitewashed Asian's I know still have Asian heritage. Just because one dresses and acts differently doesn't justify them being any good of an Asian. I've seen Caucasian's acting Asian, but still live up a Caucasian lifestyle, but it doesn't matter right? To you, they are just a waste of air.

 

Psh.

 

Let me give you an even better answer: Many Asians don't need whites to validate our interest and desire to have love for our own heritage nor do they have to speak for us. The fact that many whites to do just that - and that we tolerate it - misrepresenting Asian Americans and their experience, that is problem.

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I gave this thread a chance and try to be fair. This is basically turning into a thread in which realizm strong belief that Asian American are still an oppresive minority in America and misunderstood. Racism honestly no bounds sadly. Again i dont see any reason in continuing thus this is a wrap. Sorry this baby is now in bed.

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