Princelex Posted July 27, 2012 Share #501 Posted July 27, 2012 I agree that the way things are is bad, but I don't think anyone should have to take that indirect of a trip... Why do you think it's indirect? You are still gonna get to where you need to go, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 27, 2012 Share #502 Posted July 27, 2012 Why do you think it's indirect? You are still gonna get to where you need to go, right? The problem is that the travel time is longer than going directly out of Co-Op City. How about if the Bx26 served the northern part (along with the Bx30/38), but the Bx28 still went straight out of Section 5? (Not arguing, just throwing it out there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 27, 2012 Share #503 Posted July 27, 2012 The problem is that the travel time is longer than going directly out of Co-Op City. How about if the Bx26 served the northern part (along with the Bx30/38), but the Bx28 still went straight out of Section 5? (Not arguing, just throwing it out there). Again, if the headways on the Bx38 improve dramatically, then I won't have a problem with the Bx38. The Bx26 is a no-brainer IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 27, 2012 Share #504 Posted July 27, 2012 Well what's wrong with increasing service on the Bx38? I see nothing wrong with my proposal. It can still provide proper service for everyone, if service on the rerouted Bx26 and Bx38 was high enough Why must you ride through all 5 sections to get where you are going?? That's not fair to them, and you know that some people couldn't have been happy with that. Remember, Section 5 has access to the , along with a transfer to the Bx12 SBS (along with Section 4 nearby). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 27, 2012 Share #505 Posted July 27, 2012 Co-op residents in general never had a problem with going through all the sections.... For as long as I been visiting family out there, not once have I been on any of the routes that serve co-op where riders were agitated or upset about encircling the rest of their community.... Never read anything of the sort on any of these transit forums in the past either...... This is a clear-cut case of not knowing the service and the areas being spoken about. Do not argue with someone who lives directly in the area... I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.... It's a case of being stubborn.....same thing happened in that B51 discussion...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 27, 2012 Share #506 Posted July 27, 2012 I have no more comment in this thread, I realize now reopening it was a bad idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 27, 2012 Share #507 Posted July 27, 2012 I can't do quotes from my phone so I apologize in advance. For what cotb16 said, he brings up a great point. People here are talking about why can't Section 5 get direct service to Gun Hill and whatnot. Why can't I get direct service to the train from my section in Co-op? Riddle me that one lol. And B35 is on point with everything he said. I've been living here since 2007 and I never heard people complain either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 27, 2012 Share #508 Posted July 27, 2012 I dunno about the Co-Op city argument. I think that the Bx26 MUST serve all sections of Co-Op city along with the Bx28. I dont like the fact that the Bx28 is split. I tink the Bx28 SHOULD RETURN as one route and the Bx38 made into a Bx28 Limited or Part-Time bypass like the former Bx25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 27, 2012 Share #509 Posted July 27, 2012 To Threxxbus, get a grip on reality When you come to my neighborhood and see what I'm talking about, then you'll get it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 27, 2012 Share #510 Posted July 27, 2012 I have no more comment in this thread, I realize now reopening it was a bad idea... Of course when you bring it upon yourself, its a bad idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 27, 2012 Share #511 Posted July 27, 2012 I can't do quotes from my phone so I apologize in advance. For what cotb16 said, he brings up a great point. People here are talking about why can't Section 5 get direct service to Gun Hill and whatnot. Why can't I get direct service to the train from my section in Co-op? Riddle me that one lol. And B35 is on point with everything he said. I've been living here since 2007 and I never heard people complain either. I don't have the map in front of me, but don't the Bx23 & Q50 go to the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 27, 2012 Share #512 Posted July 27, 2012 Of course when you bring it upon yourself, its a bad idea.... I don't have the map in front of me, but don't the Bx23 & Q50 go to the ? Yeah they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted July 27, 2012 Share #513 Posted July 27, 2012 I'm glad this thread is reopened. None of this my neighborhood is better than yours crap. Anyway, I forgot one thing on my proposals, restore weekend service on the S54. Not too keen on sending it to St George though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 27, 2012 Share #514 Posted July 27, 2012 To Checkmatechamp13, it does but the the way the Bx12 SBS and Bx29 do. They dont go through section to get to the , but the Bx23 & Q50 do. That was my point. They get direct service to the . Nothing is direct in my area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 27, 2012 Share #515 Posted July 27, 2012 I don't get the sense that patrons are all that fond of the bx23.... the 50, forget about relying on that thing for a daily commute...... Both of these routes is a whole 'nother topic though....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 27, 2012 Share #516 Posted July 27, 2012 Yeah that's a totally different topic indeed. The Bx23 & Q50 are ok but again, a totally different page in the book lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 27, 2012 Share #517 Posted July 27, 2012 My guess for the Co-op City argument is that so every section could receive service to as many of the corridors as possible. Allerton: for Lehman College and Bronx HS of Science and Beth Abraham Health Center Gun Hill: for and connections, Montefiore Hospital, and Clinton High School Boston Rd: for Cardinal Spellman HS and some of the shops and residential areas Pelham Bay: for and other buses Pelham Parkway: for Jacobi Hospital, Fordham Road Shops, Inwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted July 28, 2012 Share #518 Posted July 28, 2012 Do Co Op City residents like the direct service to Bay Plaza on the Bx38? MTA could just scrap Bay Plaza service all together and revert the Bx28 back to normal, but keep the Bx38 during rush hours which would operate via the current Bx28 route. Revert the Bx25/Bx26 back to the original service. This would give section 5 a choice of a quicker ride through Co Op City, or they can go through all sections. Rush Hours Bx25 - Section 4/5 (peak direction only) Bx26 - All sections Bx28 - All sections Bx38 - Section 5 (both directions) All other times Bx26 - All sections Bx28 - All sections This eliminates the confusion of the Bx28 by having it operate the same route all times, the Bx38 would run the bypass route. Bay Plaza however would lose the Bx38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 28, 2012 Share #519 Posted July 28, 2012 Do Co Op City residents like the direct service to Bay Plaza on the Bx38? MTA could just scrap Bay Plaza service all together and revert the Bx28 back to normal, but keep the Bx38 during rush hours which would operate via the current Bx28 route. Revert the Bx25/Bx26 back to the original service. This would give section 5 a choice of a quicker ride through Co Op City, or they can go through all sections. Rush Hours Bx25 - Section 4/5 (peak direction only) Bx26 - All sections Bx28 - All sections Bx38 - Section 5 (both directions) All other times Bx26 - All sections Bx28 - All sections This eliminates the confusion of the Bx28 by having it operate the same route all times, the Bx38 would run the bypass route. Bay Plaza however would lose the Bx38. You know what? I like that idea right here. It would work for everyone. When I got to Co-op City, I wondered why there wasn't a special kind of bus like the Bx25 for Gun Hill and Section 5. That would be fantastic. As for Bay Plaza, it's one of the few things about the Bx38 that is ok but I can live without it. I'm not sure how people are with it but I can say that when I see it leaving Bay Plaza to go to the rest of the sections, it's practically empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share #520 Posted July 28, 2012 I also think Great One idea is a very good "compromise." Don't forget the BX29 would still serve Bay Plaza as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 28, 2012 Share #521 Posted July 28, 2012 I also think Great One idea is a very good "compromise." Don't forget the BX29 would still serve Bay Plaza as well. Exactly and all the buses practically stop at Bay Plaza anyway just right outside of it. The Bx29 is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share #522 Posted July 28, 2012 Exactly and all the buses practically stop at Bay Plaza anyway just right outside of it. The Bx29 is enough Cameron(Princelex) here email direct to NYCT VP/Director of NYCT/(MTA) Bus to send that excellent suggestion by Greatone. His name is Darryl Irick. Darryl.Irick@NYCT.COM and also write to MTA headquarters as well getting as many signatures as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 28, 2012 Share #523 Posted July 28, 2012 I also think Great One idea is a very good "compromise." Don't forget the BX29 would still serve Bay Plaza as well. I agree with this compromise. Bay Plaza mostly gets its patrons from outside of Co-op City. As for the Bx38 during rush hours, have it serve section 4 too (like the old Bx25). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101viaSteinway Posted July 28, 2012 Share #524 Posted July 28, 2012 Cameron(Princelex) here email direct to NYCT VP/Director of NYCT/(MTA) Bus to send that excellent suggestion by Greatone. His name is Darryl Irick. Darryl.Irick@NYCT.COM and also write to MTA headquarters as well getting as many signatures as possible. Darryl Irick Facebook https://www.facebook.../darryl.irick.5 Peter Cafiero head nyct ops planning Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002641928781 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted July 28, 2012 Share #525 Posted July 28, 2012 The Bx38 also allowed the MTA to cut some Bx28 service to Fordham as well (though some Bx38 buses do run to/from Fordham as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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