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1 minute ago, SevenEleven said:

180 and Zerega observe different holidays compared to the rest of the system.

Got it. I'll call tomorrow and see what happens.

Thanks in advance...

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11 hours ago, +Young+ said:

Got it. I'll call tomorrow and see what happens.

So I called using the phone number that was on the receipt of my drug test and yes, Pre-employment and MAC (Medical Assessment Center) will both be closed on Black Friday. Thanks for the heads-up. My apologies about being so hesitant, with the "mess" that's going on, I'm just strong minded about getting through the employment processing as quickly as possible.

Happy Thanksgiving!!

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5 hours ago, DomoThatGuy said:

Received Email Earlier 2nd Drug Test & Medical Tuesday , December 18th Class.. Anyone in That class ?

I am, good luck !!

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7 hours ago, DomoThatGuy said:

Received Email Earlier 2nd Drug Test & Medical Tuesday , December 18th Class.

Congrats! Mind sharing your list number? Make sure to hide the last digit or two to hide your identity.

2 hours ago, Skn529 said:

I am, good luck !!

And your list number is in the 1900's, respectively.

Happy Thanksgiving!!

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Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Good luck to all of the incoming classes. I'll be starting my 3rd year this upcoming March. The general pick is coming soon, and as far and what most of you will be able to pick, will be cleaning gangs (unfortunately). My seniority number is in the 1500's, I jumped up close to 300 numbers since i was hired. The bottom number in the seniority list is 1857. It'll probably be close to 2000 come pick time. A CDL could help you at the pick but it's no guarantee. I have a class A license with no restrictions, and I'm a Dual Rate Spec Operator in Capital Nights. I was lucky to get capital out of school, and my class actually made the end of the last general pick in 2016.

On the bright side you have the bid sheets, and those come out roughly every 4 months after the pick. There you could bid out of cleaning if you don't like it. Even in capital we get stuck cleaning allot because of the new initiative. In reality no matter where you go in the hole, you wont escape it. The only titles that actually will never clean are truck drivers, and crane operators. It's a great job, just pass your probation, you'll see allot of stuff you'll like and won't like. Don't worry about the moves others make, just worry about yourself and work as safe as possible.

Trust me when I tell you, there are allot of idiot foreman down here. I come from a heavy construction background. Learn the job, learn from senior men that know the job. Allot of these foreman are only concerned with numbers. If you feel something being done is unsafe don't be afraid to speak. In the end you have to worry about your life and safety, because no one else will. There was a recent accident where a guy got his leg broken installing CWR, I don't know the specifics on how it happened, but I'm sure foreman stupidity contributed allot to it. In my 2 years going into my 3rd, I've had 25 stitches in my knee, broken middle finger, and many busted finger nails which grow out, while not missing a day of work. It's the nature of the environment you will get dinged up, unless you're a flat out bum that doesn't do shit.  Just try to avoid the catastrophic injuries, or situations that can cause them.

FYI, CWR is 390 ft lengths of rail ( strings ). 100lb string weighs 13,000 lbs, 115 lb string weighs 14,950 lbs. You'll either install it manually with hooks, or now we use the TRT machine to install it. Regardless it's one of the most dangerous things you'll do down there. Those strings whip like a snake. Installing is dangerous, dropping them off a CWR train is even more dangerous.

On that note guys, good luck, and welcome.

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Wow thanks for the heads up Steve. I definitely will ask lots of questions and be alert down there.  Have they offered you day shifts yet since you've started working? Just curious to know...

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14 hours ago, +Young+ said:

Congrats! Mind sharing your list number? Make sure to hide the last digit or two to hide your identity.

And your list number is in the 1900's, respectively.

Happy Thanksgiving!!

Yes upper 1900s and thanks, hope you had a happy thanksgiving as well!

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Nov 27 orientation  is coming up!  

 

Still not sure what kind of deduxctibles I'm gonna choose (life insurance, death insurance, etc etc 401k/427 )

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4 hours ago, Aahhhwoooooo said:

Wow thanks for the heads up Steve. I definitely will ask lots of questions and be alert down there.  Have they offered you day shifts yet since you've started working? Just curious to know...

I actually could have gotten capital days off of the last bid sheet that came out. As far as the pick I won't get your hopes up, but anything is possible. You'd have a better shot at days with a bid sheet. If you see days spots put in for them all, you never know, and you might just get one. Now as far as staying days, I would say a minimum of 6-10 years on the job as far as not getting picked out of your spot, or days in general. I actually work with a guy who has like 13-14 years on the job. He was capital days straight out of school, and was able to pick back for his first 6 years on the job. Then a whole bunch of senior capital nights guys decided to go days, and he was picked right out of his spot, and forced to pick capital nights. Which in the end worked out better for him anyway.

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16 hours ago, SteveNYC said:

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Good luck to all of the incoming classes. I'll be starting my 3rd year this upcoming March. The general pick is coming soon, and as far and what most of you will be able to pick, will be cleaning gangs (unfortunately). My seniority number is in the 1500's, I jumped up close to 300 numbers since i was hired. The bottom number in the seniority list is 1857. It'll probably be close to 2000 come pick time. A CDL could help you at the pick but it's no guarantee. I have a class A license with no restrictions, and I'm a Dual Rate Spec Operator in Capital Nights. I was lucky to get capital out of school, and my class actually made the end of the last general pick in 2016.

On the bright side you have the bid sheets, and those come out roughly every 4 months after the pick. There you could bid out of cleaning if you don't like it. Even in capital we get stuck cleaning allot because of the new initiative. In reality no matter where you go in the hole, you wont escape it. The only titles that actually will never clean are truck drivers, and crane operators. It's a great job, just pass your probation, you'll see allot of stuff you'll like and won't like. Don't worry about the moves others make, just worry about yourself and work as safe as possible.

 

5 hours ago, SteveNYC said:

You'd have a better shot at days with a bid sheet. If you see days spots put in for them all, you never know, and you might just get one.

Can you please elaborate on the "bid" sheets and how all of that works? I also have a Class A CDL with all of the endorsements and no restrictions, since I took a road test in a tractor-trailer and a bus, in order to remove the N2 restriction and have it changed to an "M".

Although I'm not yet in Track, I believe you about the "idiot foreman," based on my experience, especially since a few years ago, I witnessed a Superintendent from the Dept. of Buses out of the Flatbush Depot never wearing his seat belt when behind the wheel of a bus...

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2 minutes ago, +Young+ said:

 

Can you please elaborate on the "bid" sheets and how all of that works? I also have a Class A CDL with all of the endorsements and no restrictions, since I took a road test in a tractor-trailer and a bus, in order to remove the N2 restriction and have it changed to an "M".

Although I'm not yet in Track, I believe you about the "idiot foreman," based on my experience, especially since a few years ago, I witnessed a Superintendent from the Dept. of Buses out of the Flatbush Depot never wearing his seat belt when behind the wheel of a bus...

Basically a list of jobs that are open (cat team, crane driver, etc), is generated and sent out to employees in that division. If you meet the requirements you can apply for it. Seniority, of course, also plays a part. So even if you’re qualified, if someone with more seniority applies and has the same qualifications, you will be passed over. 

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27 minutes ago, +Young+ said:

 

Can you please elaborate on the "bid" sheets and how all of that works? I also have a Class A CDL with all of the endorsements and no restrictions, since I took a road test in a tractor-trailer and a bus, in order to remove the N2 restriction and have it changed to an "M".

Although I'm not yet in Track, I believe you about the "idiot foreman," based on my experience, especially since a few years ago, I witnessed a Superintendent from the Dept. of Buses out of the Flatbush Depot never wearing his seat belt when behind the wheel of a bus...

Bid sheets are jobs that were not either filled at the pick, people who've changed titles, and or retired, or got fired from transit. Sometimes they add jobs that weren't at the pick. Basically how it works is you have a separate " Specialist " bid sheet for full rate titles, followed after that, usually a few days are the "Trackworker" and "Dual Rate" bid sheets. Basically how it works is whatever jobs someone picks if they should happen to get it, their job will go out to bid when the next bid sheet comes out. The cycle keeps repeating until the next general pick.

But how it works is you can only bid on anything from your seniority number all the way up until number 1

For example: Lets say my seniority number is 1500 I can only bid on jobs listed from 1499 and up, I can't bid on anything listed below my seniority number. Though I've heard of mishaps, and that's when folks start filing grievances. There is a guy in my quarters his number is in the 1500s and he bid on a Wetsaw spot that was in the 1800s. He actually put in for it not realizing the person who had that job, their seniority number was in the 1800s. When the results came he won the bid, but it was realized his seniority number was above the requirement, and he didn't get the spot.

Having a class A license is great, getting into fleet though won't happen right away. It'll take a few years, but if you see a Dual Rate Specialist Chauffeur spot at Linden on a bid sheet put in for it. You never know you just might get it.

 

EDIT: You also get roughly 2 weeks from the time the bids appear to put in for what you want. Takes about another week or two for the results depending on how many jobs were listed.

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18 minutes ago, SteveNYC said:

Bid sheets are jobs that were not either filled at the pick, people who've changed titles, and or retired, or got fired from transit. Sometimes they add jobs that weren't at the pick. Basically how it works is you have a separate " Specialist " bid sheet for full rate titles, followed after that, usually a few days are the "Trackworker" and "Dual Rate" bid sheets. Basically how it works is whatever jobs someone picks if they should happen to get it, their job will go out to bid when the next bid sheet comes out. The cycle keeps repeating until the next general pick.

But how it works is you can only bid on anything from your seniority number all the way up until number 1

For example: Lets say my seniority number is 1500 I can only bid on jobs listed from 1499 and up, I can't bid on anything listed below my seniority number. Though I've heard of mishaps, and that's when folks start filing grievances. There is a guy in my quarters his number is in the 1500s and he bid on a Wetsaw spot that was in the 1800s. He actually put in for it not realizing the person who had that job, their seniority number was in the 1800s. When the results came he won the bid, but it was realized his seniority number was above the requirement, and he didn't get the spot.

Having a class A license is great, getting into fleet though won't happen right away. It'll take a few years, but if you see a Dual Rate Specialist Chauffeur spot at Linden on a bid sheet put in for it. You never know you just might get it.

 

EDIT: You also get roughly 2 weeks from the time the bids appear to put in for what you want. Takes about another week or two for the results depending on how many jobs were listed.

Way better explanation lol

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Also lets say I took a bid out of Capital to be a Dual Rate Track Inspector. Now I'm a D/R Track Inspector and 4 months later the bid sheet comes out with my old spot in Capital. You cannot bid on your old spot, you'd have to pick something else in Capital or wherever it was you were at.

I used that example because that actually happened to someone I know, and he didn't realize you couldn't bid back to your old spot.

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1 hour ago, SteveNYC said:

Bid sheets are jobs that were not either filled at the pick, people who've changed titles, and or retired, or got fired from transit. Sometimes they...

 

1 hour ago, SteveNYC said:

Also lets say I took a bid out of Capital to be a Dual Rate Track Inspector. Now I'm a D/R Track Inspector and 4 months later the bid sheet comes out with my old spot in Capital. You cannot bid on your old spot, you'd have to pick something else in Capital or wherever it was you were at.

I used that example because that actually happened to someone I know, and he didn't realize you couldn't bid back to your old spot.

Got it. Thanks for the invaluable information!!

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As stated earlier with bids you just have to be junior (meaning a number behind) to the person who vacated the spot now open. 

Many gangs are together in one quarters at some locations.

I've seen men bid from one gang to the next even though the location, hours and days off are the same just to get away from a particular foreman.

I picked a specialist job in my gang (welder) even though i did not have to as a regular maintainer position was also open (I'm in 3rd Rail). A guy behind me in senority closed out the gang picking that spot.

A guy in my gang senior to me just retired.

If i want i can bid into the spot made vacant even though it's within the same gang being the guy in it had more time then me. 

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 depending on the position sometimes you're sent to school immediately such as a driver needing a CDL license if there is a shortage of drivers.

Other times you may not get sent to school right away if there's no shortage. In my department right now on my shift we are okay as far as welders. Should one retire there's no big need to replace him right away so a person may not go to school for a few months until there's a big enough group from other departments to hold a welding class.

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11 minutes ago, dp142 said:

 Depending on the position sometimes you're sent to school immediately such as a driver needing a CDL license if there is a shortage of drivers.

From what I read and also from what I heard at the Linden Yard tour on November 4th, even if you have your CDL (like me), you're still sent to school to learn how to drive the vehicles their way...the only advantage is that you don't have to take the road test (thank goodness!).

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1 minute ago, +Young+ said:

From what I read and also from what I heard at the Linden Yard tour on November 4th, even if you have your CDL (like me), you're still sent to school to learn how to drive the vehicles their way...the only advantage is that you don't have to take the road test (thank goodness!).

Yea they put you through a week of their driving training, and you get a qualification card. But the downside ( my opinion ) is everything is automatic transmission, and if you're like me, and know how to drive a Eaton 9, a 13, and a 18 speed transmission like myself, you'll feel lost without a clutch and shifter pole. Some might disagree, but if you can't drive stick, you shouldn't be in a truck. That's what will probably keep me away from Fleet, I prefer a manual transmission truck. If anything I'll pick into a Crane Operator job down the line.

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Great explanation guys. Young, thanks for asking the important questions that we sometimes forget to ask.  My orientation is tomorrow morning.  I hope to apply this new knowledge during these first couple of weeks!

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Another piece of advice:

PAY ATTENTION IN THE FLAGGING CLASSES!!!!!

 

If your flags are set up improperly, YOU CAN DIE.

 

 

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