Planned Subway Service Changes

[paulrivera]

VG8 is going to love getting empty trains (the put-ins that normally start at 238) during rush hour, and railfans are going to love being able to enter 238 Street on the uptown side.

STAIRWAY REPLACEMENT | Beginning 5 AM Tuesday, Sep 4 until Winter 2018-19
Manhattan-bound  platform at 238 St in the Bronx will temporarily close

South Ferry-bound trains will skip 238 St.

During this temporary closure, customers will have access to the 242 St-bound platform with MetroCard.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

3 minutes ago, paulrivera said:

VG8 is going to love getting empty trains (the put-ins that normally start at 238) during rush hour, and railfans are going to love being able to enter 238 Street on the uptown side.

STAIRWAY REPLACEMENT | Beginning 5 AM Tuesday, Sep 4 until Winter 2018-19
Manhattan-bound  platform at 238 St in the Bronx will temporarily close

South Ferry-bound trains will skip 238 St.

During this temporary closure, customers will have access to the 242 St-bound platform with MetroCard.

Heh, please... I avoid the  train like the plague up there.  Damn thing is too crowded.  I heard about this project from the Riverdale Press.  I can't believe it is going to take this long just to replace stairs.  

[Italianstallion]

29 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Heh, please... I avoid the  train like the plague up there.  Damn thing is too crowded.  I heard about this project from the Riverdale Press.  I can't believe it is going to take this long just to replace stairs.  

They are also going to ADD a new staircase on the NW corner, and do some cosmetic improvements.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Just now, Italianstallion said:

They are also going to ADD a new staircase on the NW corner, and do some cosmetic improvements.

I see... No elevator anywhere though... That would be nice. They should've put one at 242nd.... Absurd to rehab both 242nd AND 238th and not put one, so everyone has to go to 231st...

[Italianstallion]

36 minutes ago, paulrivera said:

VG8 is going to love getting empty trains (the put-ins that normally start at 238) during rush hour, and railfans are going to love being able to enter 238 Street on the uptown side.

STAIRWAY REPLACEMENT | Beginning 5 AM Tuesday, Sep 4 until Winter 2018-19
Manhattan-bound  platform at 238 St in the Bronx will temporarily close

South Ferry-bound trains will skip 238 St.

During this temporary closure, customers will have access to the 242 St-bound platform with MetroCard.

Many passengers entering that station get on from the Bx3 bus, which terminates there. They will now have to double  back north on the 1 and then change  again. Why not send the Bx3 buses up Broadway directly to 242nd and drop off the passengers there, so they don't have to do 2 changes? It'll only add about 10 minutes to the bus run.

[Italianstallion]

2 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I see... No elevator anywhere though... That would be nice. They should've put one at 242nd.... Absurd to rehab both 242nd AND 238th and not put one, so everyone has to go to 231st...

I agree 100%.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

27 minutes ago, Italianstallion said:

I agree 100%.

For what it's worth, 231st is basically the only ADA accessible station in the area. The next closest one is at Fordham Road on the  line... Dyckman Street on the  can be reached for ADA people Southbound only and after that no more ADA stations until 96th street!

[Lawrence St]

23 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

For what it's worth, 231st is basically the only ADA accessible station in the area. The next closest one is at Fordham Road on the  line... Dyckman Street on the  can be reached for ADA people Southbound only and after that no more ADA stations until 96th street!

Isnt 168th ADA accessible?

[Via Garibaldi 8]

14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Isnt 168th ADA accessible?

No because there is no elevator at street level on the . You have to take stairs to reach the elevators and THEN that takes you to another set of stairs.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Via Garibaldi 8

[N6 Limited]

8 hours ago, RR503 said:

This here is key. While weekend service changes are not in any way new, the adjacent track flagging that makes them so punishing is. After the deaths of those two track workers in the mid-2000s, the MTA and TWU established a 'Track Safety Task Force' to run an audit of MTA maintenance worker protection. One of the key concerns their report highlighted was the almost universal lack of adjacent track protection, so after its release, there was a concerted internal effort to strengthen NYCT flagging protocols. That, combined with the arguably draconian flagging rules themselves (<10mph for a minimum of a quarter-mile), is in essence why 2007 became the inflection point in weekend service -- with the increased volume of work necessitated by various triage efforts, it's been downhill from there. 

Luckily, a relatively simple solution to ATF exists -- track barriers and full shutdowns. The former provides an easily installable temporary wall to void ATF requirements, while the latter just kills the whole notion of adjacent tracks. Of course, both should be done, but given the agency's deep-set myopia, I'd be delighted to see limited implementation of either. 

There have been times where I've been trapped on the QBL to the point where I felt that they should have just shut it down so they could have gotten the work out the way quicker and I could have taken an alternative by default.

[paulrivera]

 

2 hours ago, Italianstallion said:

Many passengers entering that station get on from the Bx3 bus, which terminates there. They will now have to double  back north on the 1 and then change  again. Why not send the Bx3 buses up Broadway directly to 242nd and drop off the passengers there, so they don't have to do 2 changes? It'll only add about 10 minutes to the bus run.

Extend a bus route? Please, this ain't the pre-Walder where they at least pretended to care about riders. Now they blatantly don't care and would rather save a penny for themselves than spend a dollar for anybody not named Cuomo.

[Far rockaway]

I wonder if any r32's or r42's would show up for tomorrow's G.O for the  via the  to Metropolitan ave

[Train92]

3 hours ago, Far rockaway said:

I wonder if any r32's or r42's would show up for tomorrow's G.O for the  via the  to Metropolitan ave

Yes there is 1 R32 running on the Metropolitian side as far as I can see.

[Lawrence St]

Is the  running this weekend?

[Lance]

Yep. With the  reduced to 12 minute intervals, there’s no reason to cut the , despite both running to 148 Street.

[Lance]

Here's a new one:

Quote

PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE | 9:45 PM Fri, Aug 24 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 27

Church Av-bound trains skip Bedford-Nostrand Avs in Brooklyn

If only there was a way to switch over to the center track on either side of the station so trains can open their doors on the Court Square-bound platform.

Oh wait...

Edited August 25, 2018 by Lance

[paulrivera]

42 minutes ago, Lance said:

Here's a new one:

If only there was a way to switch over to the center track on either side of the station so trains can open their doors on the Court Square-bound platform.

Oh wait...

Too bad they don't want to pay anyone to sit in that tower to make such moves happen...

[Far rockaway]

Here are the planned service changes so far for the month of September

 9/1-9/3, 9/15-9/16- No trains between 14thst/rector st and south ferry

 9/1-9/2- No trains between 135th st and E180th st

 9/8-9/9, 9/15-9/16- No trains between 96th st and 148th st

 9/8-9/9- No trains between bowling green and Utica Av

 9/1-9/2, 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between 149th st Grand Concourse and E180th st.  trains provide alternative service

      9/8-9/9-No trains between E180th st and Dyre av

 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- Runs via 8th ave and Culver. Note: No trains between kings hwy and stillwell ave.

 9/15-9/16-No trains between 145th st and 168th st

 9/1-9/3- No trains between queens plaza and world trade center.Runs via 63rd and 6th ave to 2nd ave- the last stop

 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- Runs via broadway and west end

 9/8-9/9- No trains between Court Sq and Bedford-Nostrand ave

     9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between Court Sq and Nassau ave

 9/1-9/2, 9/8-9/9- No trains between Hewes street and Broad St

      9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between Crescent St and Jamaica Center

 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- Trains extended to the Chambers St  station. Trains operate every 20 minutes

 9/1-9/3, 9/8-9/9- Runs via west end in both directions. Note: Only Coney island bound trains runs via west end on the weekend of the 9/1-9/3

      9/8-9/9, 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between Queensboro Plaza and Ditmars Blvd

      

[Lawrence St]

On 8/25/2018 at 9:56 AM, Far rockaway said:

Here are the planned service changes so far for the month of September

 9/1-9/3, 9/15-9/16- No trains between 14thst/rector st and south ferry

 9/1-9/2- No trains between 135th st and E180th st

 9/8-9/9, 9/15-9/16- No trains between 96th st and 148th st

 9/8-9/9- No trains between bowling green and Utica Av

 9/1-9/2, 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between 149th st Grand Concourse and E180th st.  trains provide alternative service

      9/8-9/9-No trains between E180th st and Dyre av

 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- Runs via 8th ave and Culver. Note: No trains between kings hwy and stillwell ave.

 9/15-9/16-No trains between 145th st and 168th st

 9/1-9/3- No trains between queens plaza and world trade center.Runs via 63rd and 6th ave to 2nd ave- the last stop

 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- Runs via broadway and west end

 9/8-9/9- No trains between Court Sq and Bedford-Nostrand ave

     9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between Court Sq and Nassau ave

 9/1-9/2, 9/8-9/9- No trains between Hewes street and Broad St

      9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between Crescent St and Jamaica Center

 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- Trains extended to the Chambers St  station. Trains operate every 20 minutes

 9/1-9/3, 9/8-9/9- Runs via west end in both directions. Note: Only Coney island bound trains runs via west end on the weekend of the 9/1-9/3

      9/8-9/9, 9/15-9/16, 9/22-9/23- No trains between Queensboro Plaza and Ditmars Blvd

      

OH COME ON, ENOUGH WITH THE BEING OUT!!

I am getting sick of getting crushed on the shuttle bus by other passengers...

[Via Garibaldi 8]

6 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

OH COME ON, ENOUGH WITH THE BEING OUT!!

I am getting sick of getting crushed on the shuttle bus by other passengers...

Better get used to it or invest in Uber... lol

[Lawrence St]

27 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Better get used to it or invest in Uber... lol

I wasted around 40 bucks on a lyft yesterday...

Took a lyft from 125th to East 180th for 14$ (couldve gone to Baychester Av for 15$) and my freaking driver drove so slow he got me to East 180th St 5 minutes after the last departed. I went to go get another one and saw that a trip from East 180th St to Baychester would cost 20$. Had to get it since I was late for work.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

I wasted around 40 bucks on a lyft yesterday...

Took a lyft from 125th to East 180th for 14$ (couldve gone to Baychester Av for 15$) and my freaking driver drove so slow he got me to East 180th St 5 minutes after the last departed. I went to go get another one and saw that a trip from East 180th St to Baychester would cost 20$. Had to get it since I was late for work.

You should check with Uber too and try to do pools to keep the cost down...

[Lawrence St]

TRACK MAINTENANCE | Aug 27 - 30, Mon to Thu, 11 PM to 11:59 PM
The last stop for alternate trains headed toward 96 St is 57 St-7 Av in Manhattan

 

I wonder what this is about.

[Daniel The Cool]

FASTRACK PROGRAM | Sep 4 - 7, Tue to Fri  • Sep 10 - 14, Mon to Fri, from 9:30 PM to 5 AM
Service is rerouted between 59 St-Columbus Circle, Manhattan and Stillwell Av, Brooklyn 

No service at 7 Av, 47-50 Sts, 42 St-Bryant Pk, 34 St-Herald Sq, B'way-Lafayette St and Grand St.

service operates between Norwood-205 St and 145 St, and via the local in Manhattan to/from Jay St-MetroTech, Brooklyn and via the to/from Stillwell Av.   

trains are rerouted via the express in Manhattan and replace the in Brooklyn between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Stillwell Av.    

Buses operate between W 4 St and Grand St, stopping at B'way-Lafayette St

 

I have no idea why they're having the  Trains local in Manhattan instead of express during the weeknight Fastrack while having the overnight  Train express in Manhattan. Would've been perfect sense just to keep have the same setup as they do during the weekend shutdowns.

 

FASTRACK PROGRAM | Sep 4 - 7, Tue to Fri  •  Sep 10 - 14, Mon to Fri, from 10 PM to 5 AM
Trains run express in both directions between 145 St and Canal St in Manhattan 

For 135, 116, 110, 103, 96, 81, 50, 23 and Spring Sts, take the instead, which will make these local stops during this time. 

Transfer between trains at 145 St, 125 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 42 St-Port Authority, 14 St, W 4 St or Canal St.

Edited August 30, 2018 by Daniel The Cool

[Lance]

It's also incredibly confusing for no reason. Unless there is some work happening at 145 Street that's knocking out the local track on the upper level, they should just leave the as the late night local and keep the express. After all, that is the normal service pattern.