Residents say noise from aircraft from LaGuardia and JFK is awful

[VWM]

Next NIMBY problem: The trains are too noisy when I ride them!

[KeystoneRegional]

Next NIMBY problem: The trains are too noisy when I ride them!

 

 

And... "Why does the bus sound like a truck, I want it to sound quieter than my car" *whiney voice* -NIMBY

[Joel Up Front]

Next NIMBY complaint: My head isn't too far enough up my ass...

[Den]

This person has serious mental issues to not only be annoyed, but to call repeatedly. The easiest solution is to move. I used to live very close to JFK and the flight paths at certain times of the day have the planes very low and close to rooftops. You either get used to it or move, simple as that.

[User]

OK, I live in Douglaston, a part of Queens that is usually quiet 24/7. It's been quiet here for years. We don't get loud cars or trucks often like you do in most of the city. It's very quiet here. Now, don't call me a NIMBY or tell me to move because you can go f**k yourself then, but the past few months, those plane noises have been getting louder, a lot louder. LGA is also on the north side of Queens, so I can understand planes going over here. But they have been getting lower and lower and bigger in my eyes as the days goes by and it does make some of us uncomfortable, especially when its during the middle of the night. The house sometimes shakes and makes you think a plane is gonna crash here. Makes me think there has to have been a change in the flight paths recently to have this happening.

[FamousNYLover]

My museum friend who worked at MET Museum who was living in Kips Bay Tower, because of train all car traffic noises, she moved to Ossinning, NY where it is much quieter, and she's most closely to Croton-Harmon Station (local/express station).

After MTA increase and service reduction MNRR, she retired from museum and she now works for hospital in Osinning and she also drivers car also.

[Aussieinuk]

I live 10 minutes away from London Stansted Airport, the UK's third busiest airport. I am not bothered by the aircraft noise. I don't even notice it because you get used to it. I find that living close to the airport is convenient and it is a boost for our town.

[Minato ku]

We have the same issues in Paris

Many people have settled close to the airports (Orly and CDG) because the land was cheap and available and then they complain about noise.

[jgood6195]

These people need to stop complaining. It is your fault that you hear the plane noises because you moved close to an airport. Dumb idiots!

[Joel Up Front]

These people need to stop complaining. It is your fault that you hear the plane noises because you moved close to an airport. Dumb idiots!

 

 

If you thought this was bad, the hipsters in LIC are complaining about the LIRR there - the station AND yard when both have been there for well over a century.

[User]

I think the community won. Back in September, you see I was complaining. Now, the plane noises seem to have dyed down and the path seems to have changed again! Yay.

[DJ MC]

Good grief all the NIMBYs can kiss my ass. I can hear horns from trains a couple miles away and you don't hear anyone in my area complaining about it. If they don't like it they can move. Some people these days need to smell the roses and be happy they are alive. 

[NYCRailfan523]

NIMBYs need to accept the truth that whenever there is noise, you don't need to care about those stuff because they are a part of an urban community. 

[realizm]

I think the community won. Back in September, you see I was complaining. Now, the plane noises seem to have dyed down and the path seems to have changed again! Yay.

 

At the cost of flyers who needs to travel and wish for quality service from the airlines to get from point A to point B without unnecessary delays with the transition being made for the sake of surrounding residents around the vicinity of LGA. Such people needs to think out of the box and see that the global community and the those traveling throughout the US to NYC for a variety of reasons whether it would be to visit loved ones or on business ventures. 

 

If the NIMBYS really had their way they will fanatically try to even suggest shutting LGA down. I mean Cmon! what do they expect if they are living in the greatest city in the WORLD. What do they want? For all of New York to cater to their selfish wishes? I can bet you right now if I was to live in such areas i really would not make a big deal about this at all, so you can say I am indeed putting my money where my mouth is.

 

 

If you thought this was bad, the hipsters in LIC are complaining about the LIRR there - the station AND yard when both have been there for well over a century.

 

 

 And this is case and point. What do the NIMBYS want to advocate here? Divert the path of the LIRR? This is laughable. I wish them the best of luck. they can scream and rant until they are blue in the face, I'm sure they will never get nowhere. So for the posters that are disconcerted over such complaints, they can take it to the White house if they like, forget Albany. It will never happen and they will lose. 

[jgood6195]

These people need to stop complaining. It is your fault that you hear the plane noises because you moved close to an airport. Dumb idiots!

Why do I have a warning for this post? That's some BS.

[ttcsubwayfan]

This really is a ridiculous complaint. I lived in an apartment building overlooking a streetcar loop for about 3 years, which meant the screeching of wheels was present day in, day out. Nobody complained.

[User]

At the cost of flyers who needs to travel and wish for quality service from the airlines to get from point A to point B without unnecessary delays with the transition being made for the sake of surrounding residents around the vicinity of LGA. Such people needs to think out of the box and see that the global community and the those traveling throughout the US to NYC for a variety of reasons whether it would be to visit loved ones or on business ventures. 

 

If the NIMBYS really had their way they will fanatically try to even suggest shutting LGA down. I mean Cmon! what do they expect if they are living in the greatest city in the WORLD. What do they want? For all of New York to cater to their selfish wishes? I can bet you right now if I was to live in such areas i really would not make a big deal about this at all, so you can say I am indeed putting my money where my mouth is.

No, not really, LGA just keeps changing the pattern for flights landing and moving around the NYC hub area. Instead of bringing the flights in over the water and then over land for a short time, they bring them in over populated areas, flying lower and lower. I've never suggested LGA be closed, because I know its very convenient for people flying in the continental US from Queens or Long Island. Its so easy for LGA to change the flight plan because they do it more often than you think.

[GojiMet86]

I was there two days ago, and the sound train wheels is no comparison to the ear-blasting noise from the planes.

[BreeddekalbL]

What do they want them to do? they have noise abatement but that's not enough i guess!

[N4 Via Merrick Rd]

This thread is still active??

[User]

This thread is still active??

Uh, yes, it is!

[User]

A little piece of local news from me and an update to this story:

 

LINK: http://bayside.patch.com/articles/northeast-queens-residents-grill-faa-on-laguardia-airplane-noise

 

Northeast Queens Residents Grill FAA on LaGuardia Airplane Noise

 

 

Northeast Queens residents peppered the Federal Aviation Administration with questions on airplane noise resulting from a new flight route at LaGuardia Airport during a meeting held Thursday night in Bay Terrace.

 

More than 100 people packed into the standing room-only meeting hosted by state Sen. Tony Avella, D-Bayside, and state Assemblyman Edward Braunstein, D-Bayside, at the Bay Terrace Jewish Center.

 

"We're not going to let this destroy our quality of life," Avella said. "We've said publicly that if the route doesn't go back to the old way, the FAA is in for the fight of its life."

 

Braunstein said he has been "frustrated" because he lives in the flight path's route.

 

"This summer, I was being woken up every minute starting at 6 a.m.," he said. "It's not fair that our property values should go down and we are being forced out of our backyards so the airport industry can make more money."

 

Northeast Queens residents began complaining about the noise early last summer, saying that planes were flying over their neighborhood virtually every minute of the morning and afternoon.

 

Carmine Gallo, regional administrator for the FAA's eastern region, told attendees at last night's meeting that LaGuardia has several flight paths, including the "tennis climb," which sends planes over Bayside and was named due to its proximity to Flushing Meadows Corona Park's stadium.

 

"It's probably the most complex piece of airspace in the world," said Ralph Tamburro, an FAA traffic management officer, of the three regional airports. "The reason we do the tennis climb is that we have the minimal separation required between these aircrafts. We have to maintain three miles separation."

 

Other climbs out of LaGuardia include the Nathan's climb toward Coney Island and another that heads in the direction of Maspeth.

 

"These have been in existence for approximately 40 years," Tamburro said. "The ultimate goal is to use two of these climbs on a normal basis."

 

The FAA's officials told attendees at the meeting that the reason they heard so much noise last summer was because the agency was collecting data by sending off more flights than usual from LaGuardia's Runway 13.

 

Avella asked the officials why more flights did not head over the water or Flushing Meadows Corona Park, rather than flying over residential neighborhoods.

 

"With the amount of aircraft in this airspace, it's impossible for them to all go over the water," Tamburro answered.

 

The FAA officials said they carried out an environmental impact study on the flight route in 2007, but neither Avella and Community Board 11 Chairman Jerry Iannece said they had been notified about it.

 

Resident Nancy Liu asked whether the flight route was still in the test phase or had been permanently implemented.

 

"Are you going to add more flights in the future?" she asked. "If so, I want to move away from this area."

 

But Gallo responded that the capacity of LaGuardia's flights is a fixed number.

"The number of flights using the tennis climb is going to be way less than what you experienced during the test period," he said.

 

Braunstein asked whether there would still be planes passing overhead every minute at specific times of the day. Gallo answered "yes," eliciting a few gasps from the audience.

 

Officials from the agency told audience members that they had conducted tests on the noise level at the airport and that it had met the 65 decibel level that is considered acceptable by the FAA.

 

But Avella said that level is an average and that, on any given day, the noise could be up to 80 or 100 decibels.

 

"It's not acceptable to us," he said.

 

And Janet McEneaney, a CB 11 member and founder of Queens Quiet Skies, said that LaGuardia has very few noise meters on the ground.

 

"It's my understanding on the runways in San Francisco, there are 33 noise meters and, in Chicago, there are 30," she said. "At Kennedy, there are 18 and, at LaGuardia, there are four."

 

Several residents pressed the FAA for the creation of a roundtable through which they could voice their complaints and cited several cities, such as Chicago and San Francisco, where the FAA had set up such groups.

 

"I live in Douglaston and have been there about a year and a half," said Robert Whitehair, a pilot and former airport manager. "I sat on a community roundtable in the 1980s dealing with complaints before these routes were put into place, not after. Why has the FAA not reached out to the community? The people here weren't notified."

 

Gallo said the FAA would agree to a roundtable for northeast Queens.

[46Dover]

Complaining about plane noise?? Cheese with whine anyone?