realizm Posted August 17, 2012 Share #26 Posted August 17, 2012 Who's going to pay the bill? You? What, you got millions of dollars in the bank to fund this proposal? Psst, hey BTW can I borrow a couple of million dollars plz? I'll pay you back I promise..... When I said that had the 60th Street Tube be 4-tracked I might that it should have been when they started constructing the Broadway Line in the past....Learn to ask proper questions before you insult me you damn bastard! I am not going to get attacked by any user (even that member JoeUpFront)... Whoa, what? Who said I was trying to insult you? Over a non-inflammatory comment? I swear stop being so serious. Smiley emoticons are available and used for a reason. To show that a comment is posted in good jest as I did in this case. If I was really trying to insult you believe me you will know. But that was'nt my intentions here in regards your post. Please don't have a tantrum out of something that is an non-issue. Leave the garbage at the door before you speak. It works wonders. With that I'm done discussing this idiocy in this tthat post and would like to get back on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted August 17, 2012 Share #27 Posted August 17, 2012 That's no solution. If you say you see 6 expresses pass by, that's 30 minutes, in which time three trains are supposed to arrive. If reliability is the issue, adding or trains is not going to solve it. Adding the or will solve it, as long as intervals are at sync, and the ®/(M) or ®/(E) come at a logical time so waiting intervals won't kill people's patience. A lot of those riders already got to take a lengthy bus ride just to get to the train.... let it stay express. A lot of riders already have nearly hour long commutes with the train express. 1) Regardless of transfers, the still runs local Late Nights, and the stations added is only 10 that won't effect much at most so why not Weekends? 2) We're NOT talking about Weekdays, if this is about Weekday service, I'd be 1,000,000/100% against the running local! This is about Weekends ONLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #28 Posted August 17, 2012 The arrive back-to-back with each other like 1-2 mins after the other one leaves. Thats what you call CBTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #29 Posted August 17, 2012 A lot of those riders already got to take a lengthy bus ride just to get to the train.... let it stay express. A lot of riders already have nearly hour long commutes with the train express. I'm one of those occasional bus riders(n4 to Parsons/Archer) to the so I agree. I would also make the skip Briarwood-Van Wyck and 75 Av on weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 17, 2012 Share #30 Posted August 17, 2012 Thats what you call CBTC. Oh that's right I forgot. CBTC will be installed on the QBL eventually after the Flushing project is done, right? That should solve all problems with wait times right there. Along with increased R service for the local folks for an alternative to Manhattan. It would indirectly benefit Brooklyn riders as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #31 Posted August 17, 2012 Oh that's right I forgot. CBTC will be installed on the QBL eventually after the Flushing project is done, right? That should solve all problems with wait times right there. Along with increased R service for the local folks for an alternative to Manhattan. It would indirectly benefit Brooklyn riders as well. But we are going to have to wait about 8 years for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 17, 2012 Share #32 Posted August 17, 2012 Yikes. That's a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #33 Posted August 17, 2012 Yikes. That's a long time. Well, I mean if its going to start after the Flushing Line is complete. ^400th Post w00t^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 17, 2012 Share #34 Posted August 17, 2012 ^400th Post w00t^ *high five to Merrick* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #35 Posted August 17, 2012 *high five to Merrick* *gives High Five* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted August 17, 2012 Share #36 Posted August 17, 2012 Possible solutions: 1.Increase the number of R trains. 2.Send the G back to 71st Continental. 3.You can also keep M trains running during the weekends. #1 seems like the most logical. I am sure people along the R would definitely appreciate that. #2 would also work. #3 would work, but would probably be most expensive. Out of these options, I actually like #3 the most because of the "side benefits". This would benefit Williamsburg/Bushwick residents a lot as a side benefit as well as help out the line in both Manhattan and Queens, especially when there are service changes. The train would get some help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted August 17, 2012 Share #37 Posted August 17, 2012 Since the is a Shuttle, why not make the Local on weekends? Like late nights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #38 Posted August 17, 2012 Since the is a Shuttle, why not make the Local on weekends? Like late nights? No Way, people need to get to the AIRPORT via the and the AIRTRAIN.Question is: Why don't they make the local? also late nights as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted August 17, 2012 Share #39 Posted August 17, 2012 Then why does the run Local at night? I looked at the track map, and it seems that there is no problem of the going Local as it enters Queens Boulevard. The end looks fine too. But then again, it is just priorities. Like the over the . The over the on 4 Av. The over the . The over the on CPW. Just priorities. I also think the runs Local at nights to replace the and . Since it is coming up on the , might as well go Local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted August 17, 2012 Share #40 Posted August 17, 2012 running local would be wayyy too long, considering that it's running all the way from Coney Island. The would be the most logical idea, and really people could just time right so they can get to the JFK Airtrain and to the Airport without missing their flight, same for bus riders, y'all can hop on the and X-Fer to the if you don't like Local or Slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted August 17, 2012 Share #41 Posted August 17, 2012 No Way, people need to get to the AIRPORT via the and the AIRTRAIN. Question is: Why don't they make the local? also late nights as well. People take the for the same reasons they take the . They need to get to Manhattan, Jamaica, and key stops along the Queens Blvd line. Plus, I don't think it can switch onto the 63rd Street Line tracks from the local tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 17, 2012 Share #42 Posted August 17, 2012 People take the for the same reasons they take the . They need to get to Manhattan, Jamaica, and key stops along the Queens Blvd line. Plus, I don't think it can switch onto the 63rd Street Line tracks from the local tracks. Ummm, then why does the go on 63 street to access the Broadway via Queens Boulevard local during those G.O's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 17, 2012 Share #43 Posted August 17, 2012 How about this: We install the same system that was installed on the Lex line so and trains can be 16 TPH each, instead of 14. Those extra four trains could really help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 17, 2012 Share #44 Posted August 17, 2012 People take the for the same reasons they take the . They need to get to Manhattan, Jamaica, and key stops along the Queens Blvd line. Plus, I don't think it can switch onto the 63rd Street Line tracks from the local tracks. It actually can running local would be wayyy too long, considering that it's running all the way from Coney Island. The would be the most logical idea, and really people could just time right so they can get to the JFK Airtrain and to the Airport without missing their flight, same for bus riders, y'all can hop on the and X-Fer to the if you don't like Local or Slow. So the runs local all the way from Far Rockaway-207th during late nights and not to mention its the longest route in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted August 17, 2012 Share #45 Posted August 17, 2012 Ummm, then why does the go on 63 street to access the Broadway via Queens Boulevard local during those G.O's You're right. Thanks for bringing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 17, 2012 Share #46 Posted August 17, 2012 As it was said before, the most logical thing to do would be to make the have 7-8 minute headways. The isn't as long as the , but it's still a busy line even on weekends, so making it run local isn't a very good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 17, 2012 Share #47 Posted August 17, 2012 The at 7-8 minute headways would be the same as it currently is. It needs to be at at least 6 (10 TPH) to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted August 17, 2012 Share #48 Posted August 17, 2012 It's not just weekends. Yesterday I waited 15min for a s/b at Jay St at 3PM. The train which showed up decided to battery run from Pacific to 36, stopping only at 9 St. At Bay Ridge, I boarded the next n/b , which expressed from 86 St to 59 St. The train behind it was deadheaded up to 36 St and started there. The should run every 8min during off peak hours. The has the same problem, but ridership is usually much less. As someone who can choose between the and , I feel bad for the riders at the Brooklyn local stops. Their rush hour headway is 10min! As for making the local, the will never happen because of the high number of people transferring at 179th to buses. The weekend ...maybe. And since 6/28, aren't the only lines with weekend headways < 8min the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted August 17, 2012 Share #49 Posted August 17, 2012 Can I mention that at nights, the is the 95 St Shuttle, and the is the West End Shuttle. The needs to run Local. The is fine to me. Both of them should be running Local, but the is just running Express because it can. The only reason the is Local in Manhattan at nights is because it runs Local in Fulton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted August 17, 2012 Share #50 Posted August 17, 2012 How about this: We install the same system that was installed on the Lex line so and trains can be 16 TPH each, instead of 14. Those extra four trains could really help... What system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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