limitednyc Posted August 26, 2012 Share #1 Posted August 26, 2012 i wonder how much money the ta saved by fliiping the estern local /limited termini for the fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 26, 2012 Share #2 Posted August 26, 2012 They're most likely not flipping, that was probably a typo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted August 26, 2012 according to trip planner and the service notice they definately are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 26, 2012 Share #4 Posted August 26, 2012 Well why have the local run the longer route? This makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted August 26, 2012 becase there is much more ltd sevice than local and most likely the local sevice level matches the ridership east of rockaway p'kway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted August 26, 2012 Share #6 Posted August 26, 2012 Then they should've just short-turned more limiteds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted August 26, 2012 agreed , but they never have short turned ltds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 26, 2012 Share #8 Posted August 26, 2012 This will hurt ridership east of rockaway this won't last. Just like B103's change which did not last at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted August 26, 2012 what are u talking about, i haven't seen that the b103 was shortend back to e108th street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted August 26, 2012 Share #10 Posted August 26, 2012 agreed , but they never have short turned ltds Under the old service pattern, one AM Limited trip short-turned at Rockaway Parkway. To me, this should be the service pattern on weekdays: LIMITED: Bensonhurst to Canarsie LIMITED: Bensonhurst to East New York (alternating LTD trips) LOCAL: Midwood to Canarsie (except for the pull-ins and pull-outs, which would go to Bensonhurst) I do believe that 20-minute headways would be sufficient off-peak east of Rockaway Parkway---IF---the Rockaway Parkway departures are staggered. This will hurt ridership east of rockaway this won't last. Just like B103's change which did not last at all. What B103 change are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted August 26, 2012 Share #11 Posted August 26, 2012 Re-routing the Northbound B103 on the Prospect Expwy. It was supposed to take a "faster" route, but the new route only reduced its time on the highway, and added its time on the crowded Flatbush Av (and had it running right in front of Atlantic Terminal but not stopping, which is pretty stupid). The re-route occurred in February, but it was quietly changed back to its old route in July. So about this B6 switcharoo, is this the MTA's latest hackneyed move to save $$$ or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 26, 2012 Share #12 Posted August 26, 2012 hold on, what is this about now ? Someone briefly explain what the B6 is supposed to do this fall..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 26, 2012 Share #13 Posted August 26, 2012 hold on, what is this about now ? Someone briefly explain what the B6 is supposed to do this fall..... The LTD buses will run Canarsie-Bensonhurst, the local buses will run ENY-Midwood/Bensonhurst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted August 26, 2012 Share #14 Posted August 26, 2012 Trip Planner shows B6 Limited trips for the new pick terminating at the train station and local trips terminating at the train. Edit: Ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted August 27, 2012 Share #15 Posted August 27, 2012 Is this just for the fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted August 27, 2012 i don't think so unless it causes problems an they have to revert back because of political pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted August 27, 2012 Share #17 Posted August 27, 2012 I can see this causing all sorts of problems, as local trips would end up taking in excess of 90 minutes; currently, the only Brooklyn route timed at longer than 90 minutes is the B15, which clocks in close to 2 hours. The Limited-stop trips would become a lot faster, but the local trips would become a lot slower. This is the opposite of the logic that explained why the Bx1 and not the Bx2 became the Concourse Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted August 28, 2012 Share #18 Posted August 28, 2012 As I mentioned in another post regarding the changes to the B6 - they should actually be short-turning every other B6 LTD at Rockaway instead of having the locals go the entire length. It doesn't make any sense, and I definitely think this is a miscommunication. When the new pick starts this Sunday I'll take a look at the B6 paddles to check what changes were made with the runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 28, 2012 Share #19 Posted August 28, 2012 They should make very other local and every other limited short turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted September 5, 2012 Share #20 Posted September 5, 2012 Yep, so it looks like all the LTDs are terminating at Rockaway while all locals go to ENY. #fucckery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contor Posted September 5, 2012 Share #21 Posted September 5, 2012 Yep, so it looks like all the LTDs are terminating at Rockaway while all locals go to ENY. #fucckery And the passengers are not real happy about. To top it off most didn't even know about the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted September 6, 2012 Share #22 Posted September 6, 2012 Yeah, the only service change posters out there are the "The first/last bus leaves from _____ at _____" kind of posters, which only vaguely tells about the change. Also, the MTA or DOT or whoever should change the Eastbound Limited bus stop signs to read Canarise instead of East New York, but I doubt that'll ever happen. What a great way to start the school year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contor Posted September 6, 2012 Share #23 Posted September 6, 2012 They also didn't remove some of the "Limited" bus stop signs yet between Rockaway pkwy and Livonia Ave.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted September 6, 2012 Share #24 Posted September 6, 2012 It may be a pilot program with the B6. What are they testing, you ask? I have no clue. From my end (and most other folks too), it's pretty stupid. Why the fucck would you have the local buses do the entire route during the day and have ALL LTDs short-turn at Rockaway Parkway -- it just doesn't make any sense. And I'll be damned if they try this fucckery on the other LTD routes in Brooklyn. It may change back in January for the system pick. Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contor Posted September 6, 2012 Share #25 Posted September 6, 2012 It may be a pilot program with the B6. What are they testing, you ask? I have no clue. From my end (and most other folks too), it's pretty stupid. Why the fucck would you have the local buses do the entire route during the day and have ALL LTDs short-turn at Rockaway Parkway -- it just doesn't make any sense. And I'll be damned if they try this fucckery on the other LTD routes in Brooklyn. It may change back in January for the system pick. Hopefully. You are totally correct it is pretty stupid and I too hope it does gets changed back!! I can't see any reason for them changing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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