Cait Sith 8,030 #1 Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Edited September 22, 2012 by Cait Sith 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmouse 522 #2 Posted September 22, 2012 So it was repaired then? Makes sense Daimler refused to do it hence they're leaving the market. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cait Sith 8,030 #3 Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) So it was repaired then? Makes sense Daimler refused to do it hence they're leaving the market. Either its going to get repaired or already is. My question is, would this unit go straight to NICE or do we get to keep it? -EDIT- Topic moved since this isn't completely about NICE Edited September 22, 2012 by Cait Sith Topic moved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SevenEleven 2,439 #4 Posted September 22, 2012 The work's already done. It's going through acceptance by the , then off to Nassau County for DOT inspection before re-entering service. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoSpectacular 578 #5 Posted September 22, 2012 I knew this one could be saved... The damage wasn't all that bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmouse 522 #6 Posted September 22, 2012 so we would own it? or nice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MHV9218 5,215 #7 Posted September 22, 2012 Why in the world would we have to pay for this? LI wouldn't pay for service in the first place, and now they won't even pay for the maintenance of the fleet we gave them for free? They want to fix it, they can do it. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitz 762 #8 Posted September 22, 2012 The private sanitation company's insurance is suppose to be paying for it. Then I would think the bus would be returned to Nassau county. If I were in charge of this I would have the bus returned to full MTA livery just to stick it to NICE one last time. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbo19 2,509 #9 Posted September 22, 2012 Just reading the report shows that that no one wants to take responsibiltity. Bad enough Orion is shutting down, but here comes NICE with this B.S. What a clusterf-ck. Honestly they deserve nothing, let them pay for another bus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Concourse 2,690 #10 Posted September 23, 2012 The private sanitation company's insurance is suppose to be paying for it. Then I would think the bus would be returned to Nassau county. If I were in charge of this I would have the bus returned to full MTA livery just to stick it to NICE one last time. Exactly, why is the MTA left holding the bag for the repairs? Total bs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHat 113 #11 Posted September 23, 2012 The private sanitation company's insurance is suppose to be paying for it. Then I would think the bus would be returned to Nassau county. If I were in charge of this I would have the bus returned to full MTA livery just to stick it to NICE one last time. For the most part it is it still labeled MTA Long Island bus when I saw it in Grand CMF on Wednesday. It is being prepped for DOT insp. @ Grand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N4 Via Merrick Rd 234 #12 Posted September 23, 2012 Exactly, why is the MTA left holding the bag for the repairs? Total bs. I guess because it has something to with that it happened when the was still operating. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joel Up Front 792 #13 Posted September 23, 2012 Just reading the report shows that that no one wants to take responsibiltity. Bad enough Orion is shutting down, but here comes NICE with this B.S. What a clusterf-ck. Honestly they deserve nothing, let them pay for another bus. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q43LTD 742 #14 Posted September 23, 2012 This is my gripe with Nassau. You have all this money from taxes and such and you still expect some one else to take responsibility? Come on 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 2,251 #15 Posted September 23, 2012 I'm happy to see them repairing 1808. 1804 was a goner, wasn't it? That bus was taken to Eastchester because of it's frame damage, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Concourse 2,690 #16 Posted September 23, 2012 1804 was the one t-boned by that speeding van right? I can't see that being fixed up. As for this, I know this happened under the MTA's ownership, but still, their bus was hit by another driver. It should be taken care of via insurance purposes, ie:MTA doesn't pay for the repairs. I also think that Nassau should at least pay something if they want that bus back. It's not like they are paying the price of a new bus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fresh Pond 5,363 #17 Posted September 23, 2012 At the end of the first paragraph it says after getting repaired its gonna head to Long island, so it might be theirs 1804 was the one t-boned by that speeding van right? I can't see that being fixed up. As for this, I know this happened under the MTA's ownership, but still, their bus was hit by another driver. It should be taken care of via insurance purposes, ie:MTA doesn't pay for the repairs. I also think that Nassau should at least pay something if they want that bus back. It's not like they are paying the price of a new bus. Yes it was...and it was caught on camera. There's no hope for that one the frame was damaged. It was written-off 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 2,251 #18 Posted September 23, 2012 I just thought of something. The gets the bus repaired for free, then uses it on LIRR Service to kinda tease Nassau County and show who has the upper hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilbluefoxie 820 #19 Posted September 24, 2012 I just thought of something. The gets the bus repaired for free, then uses it on LIRR Service to kinda tease Nassau County and show who has the upper hand. and what would something so petty like that accomplish? I'd like to think and I'd like to hope that management is more professional than that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Concourse 2,690 #20 Posted September 24, 2012 Well, has Nassau paid what they owed to MTA bus? If they want the bus back, and if i were the MTA, I'd demand Nassau at least foot the bill for fixing the bus. It's still maybe 1/5 the price of a new bus. $100k is a drop in the bucket. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QM1to6Ave 1,690 #21 Posted September 24, 2012 This is just about laying out the money until the private insurance company pays out (perhaps after they go to court if it is not a clear-cut case). The MTA authorized the repair in the first place, so they will pay for it up front. Why do you guys think the MTA wants to mess around with NICE over $100,000. That is nothing to the MTA. The administrative headache and cost of getting money from NICE and then giving them back the 100,000 after it is paid would probably cost more than 100,000 itself! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burrstone 664 #22 Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) What is the matter with some of you people? Let whatever petty gripes you have with Veolia go. The bus was bought with grants meant for Nassau county. The MTA is responsible for any bus they were operating under long Island bus. The MTA is not paying anything insurance will cover it, IF the MTA found themselves paying our out of pocket due to a situation where they were liable or have to pay because another party didn't have insure insurance or was under insured, well that's the price you pay for deciding to be self insured. The MTA made an agreement that they would turn buses over in good working condition, 1808 was far from it. They're responsible, how in the hell would Veolia be on the hook to take care of a damaged bus that was in an accident Bedford before they even knew where Nassau County was? All these comments about stick it to Veolia, let them pay, or let Nassau pay is petty nonsense. MTA knows they're on the hook that's why they fixed the bus. It seems no one wanted to touch this bus that's execpt except for the one party. I hope Veolia goes over this bus with a fine tooth comb (if it does go back to Nassau) to make sure it is 100% safe for passengers and it is not shoddy work, and deny delivery if it isn't up to par, we are talking about a rebuilt wreck that needs 1/4 of the purchase price (not even depreciated value) in work to make it road worthy. I am curious what will happen considering this bus has been repaired after Veolua/Nassau made an order to Orion including 2 buses to replace the damaged buses...? ***edit*** I typed this quickly on my phone when I was on the train, stupid auto correct.... Edited September 25, 2012 by Burrstone 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
compobus fan 55 #23 Posted September 25, 2012 This is my gripe with Nassau. You have all this money from taxes and such and you still expect some one else to take responsibility? Come on When you find the spot where "all the tax money" is hidden and we will give you the bus !! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion VII 4 Life 1,062 #24 Posted September 25, 2012 What is the matter with some of you people? Let whatever petty gripes you have with Veolia go. The bus was bought with grants meant for Nassau county. The MTA is responsible for any bus they operating under long Island bus. The MTA is not paying anything insurance will cover it, IF the MTA found them selves paying our of pocket due to a situation where they were liable or have to pay because another party didn't have insure or was under insured, well that's the price you pay for deciding to be self insured. The MTA made an agreement that they would turn buses over in good working condition, 1808 was far from it. They're responsible, how in the hell would Veolia be on the hook to take care of a damaged bus that was in an accident Bedford they even knew where Nassau County was? All these comments about stick it to Veolia, let them pay, or let Nassau pay is petty nonsense. MTA knows they're on the hook that's why they fixed the bus. It seems no one wanted to touch this bus that's execpt for the one party. I hope Veolia goes over this bus with a fine tooth comb (if it does go back to Nassau) to make sure it is 100% safe for passengers and it is not shoddy work, and deny delivery if it isn't up to par, we are talking about a rebuilt wreck that needs 1/4 of the purchase price (not even depreciated value) in work to make it road worthy. I am curious what will happen considering this bus has been repaired after Veolua/Nassau made an order to Orion including 2 buses to replace the damaged buses...? I forgot Nassau ordered 2 buses to replace the wrecked ones, now I'm interested to see what happens here. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeystoneRegional 246 #25 Posted October 3, 2012 I smell Mangano and the Republicans who love privatization involved in this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites