QM1to6Ave Posted September 28, 2012 Share #26 Posted September 28, 2012 Wow. What happened to the fire suppression system? Glad the B/O is ok, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted September 28, 2012 Share #27 Posted September 28, 2012 First of all this is why the buses shouldn't go on the highway. The motor can overheat and cause a fire. Thats like saying people shouldnt walk on asphalt because you might break your leg.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted September 28, 2012 Share #28 Posted September 28, 2012 Yeah, I don't see these lasting past the 12 year mark. Agreed! But it's only a few buses. I do expect more in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted September 28, 2012 Share #29 Posted September 28, 2012 So, that's the third Orion 7 to retire a little early that expected. Let's hope there is not a fourth one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted September 28, 2012 Share #30 Posted September 28, 2012 Well at least this wasn't caused by a mattress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngblaze Posted September 28, 2012 Share #31 Posted September 28, 2012 I hope that van wyck portion was on that operator's run off sheet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted September 28, 2012 Share #32 Posted September 28, 2012 Yeah, I don't see these lasting past the 12 year mark. Thats probably why the MTA wants to give them new engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 28, 2012 Share #33 Posted September 28, 2012 I predict the cause of the fire of this bus was an electrical shortage. I say that given the history of hybrid buses from several manufacturers in several cities and recalls that have been done on hybrids specifically in the past, especially on the BAE systems battery pack. And given all these conversions and fires, we're probably not going to see more hybrids in the for a while, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted September 28, 2012 Share #34 Posted September 28, 2012 Good thing the driver is okay and no one else on the road got hurt. I am really starting to ask are hybrid buses really worth it? Is spending almost half a million dollars on a hybrid bus really worth the cost? This is something that has puzzled me for a while and I wonder what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 28, 2012 Share #35 Posted September 28, 2012 Its just a bus that caught fire...there have been diesels that happened the same way like 5121, 8752 (that one was kinda funny), and the phoenix (4396). It can happen to any bus, it just so happen to be a hybrid...again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted September 28, 2012 Share #36 Posted September 28, 2012 Are these buses still under that massive recall? All the NG's and a few of the OG's are also included in the recall. Note: The buses are on recall because of faulty wiring that could catch fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 28, 2012 Share #37 Posted September 28, 2012 Its just a bus that caught fire...there have been diesels that happened the same way like 5121, 8752 (that one was kinda funny), and the phoenix (4396). It can happen to any bus, it just so happen to be a hybrid...again I think it's 8652 you're talking about. Is it that bus that was made 3 times under 8652 after it got on fire. I remember reading something about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted September 28, 2012 Share #38 Posted September 28, 2012 Hey for all that, we might as well shuffle all the buses around the city so that any route that has a highway or bridge stretch should use straight diesel buses CNG, Allison, or BAE Parallel hybrids would be fine on the freeway. These BAE Series buses should not be on any route where speeds go abouve 30mph regularly. The actually shouldnt be going over 30 at all unless dead heading. This is why TTC and MTA are among the agencies seeing different problems. They should never be on the freeway. There is no way they will last 12 years running up and down a Freeway. They should have definitely been put on the all the routes in the city that have the lowest average speeds. Highway stretches wouldn't have a thing to do with the cause though. If that were the case, we wouldnt have had them on the Q44, Q10, M60 and a number of other routes that goes on long, fast stretches for X amount of time. The cause is likely either a leak of hydraulic fluid or an electrical issue. It could be anything..... The highway definitely could have been a contributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 28, 2012 Share #39 Posted September 28, 2012 I think it's 8652 you're talking about. Is it that bus that was made 3 times under 8652 after it got on fire. I remember reading something about that. No it was 8752. That one was freshly rehabbed then it spontaneously combusted while at a red light. 4396 is the mobile command bus. The backstory on that one was that while being delivered, it burst into flames. I don't think it seen regular service after that but it was rebuilt and named the phoenix, then later renumbered 0010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 28, 2012 Share #40 Posted September 28, 2012 No it was 8752. That one was freshly rehabbed then it spontaneously combusted while at a red light. 4396 is the mobile command bus. The backstory on that one was that while being delivered, it burst into flames. I don't think it seen regular service after that but it was rebuilt and named the phoenix, then later renumbered 0010. Than what bus got on fire 3 times and remade three times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted September 28, 2012 Share #41 Posted September 28, 2012 *sigh* Another Orion outta here, damn... These may be my favorite buses, and as much as I love them and the BAE Hybridrive, I'll admit they shouldn't be on the freeway. But I'm not really for the plan to convert the hybrids to diesel either. I think a lot of the O7s that run in the outer boroughs should be converted to BAE Parallel or Allison hybrid systems instead. Let the ones in Manhattan, and maybe some in Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx stay with the BAE Series system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted September 29, 2012 Share #42 Posted September 29, 2012 That bus looks like when 510 (the O5) caught fire early on; that MIGHT be repairable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted September 29, 2012 Share #43 Posted September 29, 2012 No it was 8752. That one was freshly rehabbed then it spontaneously combusted while at a red light. 4396 is the mobile command bus. The backstory on that one was that while being delivered, it burst into flames. I don't think it seen regular service after that but it was rebuilt and named the phoenix, then later renumbered 0010. 4396 made it to delivery, but caught fire on its first day in service. IINM, the last bus made twice was 9656; the first one caught fire, then it was re-made, but then got scrapped after being the middle bus in a 3-bus smashup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted September 29, 2012 Share #44 Posted September 29, 2012 No it was 8752. That one was freshly rehabbed then it spontaneously combusted while at a red light. 4396 is the mobile command bus. The backstory on that one was that while being delivered, it burst into flames. I don't think it seen regular service after that but it was rebuilt and named the phoenix, then later renumbered 0010. ... Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 29, 2012 Share #45 Posted September 29, 2012 Oh the bus I'm talking about. This is what happened to the bus. The Bus I was talking was 9656 9656 caught on fire shortly after delivery and was subsequently retired. The next Nova Bus RTS order (buses 4900-5249) would include another bus numbered 9656 in addition to the 350 RTS buses ordered, but the replacement was totaled in a major accident in 2008 and scrapped in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerdodge9 Posted October 24, 2012 Share #46 Posted October 24, 2012 If only it was an XD40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted October 24, 2012 Share #47 Posted October 24, 2012 If only it was an XD40????? What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share #48 Posted October 24, 2012 If only it was an XD40. Recommending an Xcelsior goes up in flames? You trying to start a riot here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted October 24, 2012 Share #49 Posted October 24, 2012 If only it was an XD40. Uh-oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerdodge9 Posted October 24, 2012 Share #50 Posted October 24, 2012 I rather lose an XD40 than an Orion VII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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