Turbo19 Posted September 30, 2012 Share #1 Posted September 30, 2012 Hey, just recieved this from a friend at CPTDB. http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=38892 It seems that the front is borrowed from the Gen III NABI 40-LFW. Opinions? I personally see NICE possibly ordering some. Almost for sure LA will get some. Considering I live not to far from the West Coast mantianence facility, I will know if i passes through here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 30, 2012 Share #2 Posted September 30, 2012 Hey, just recieved this from a friend at CPTDB. http://www.cptdb.ca/...attach_id=38892 It seems that the front is borrowed from the Gen III NABI 40-LFW. Opinions? I personally see NICE possibly ordering some. Almost for sure LA will get some. Considering I live not to far from the West Coast mantianence facility, I will know if i passes through here Could you copy and paste the photo link or whatever it is please? Some of us (like moi) arent members of the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted September 30, 2012 My apologies. I'll try to get it up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted September 30, 2012 Should work now. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/nabimetro40c.jpg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 30, 2012 Share #5 Posted September 30, 2012 Holy crap, that looks great! Damn! While I'm a big fan of the original look of the 40/45Cs, this looks just as good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted September 30, 2012 Holy crap, that looks great! Damn! While I'm a big fan of the original look of the 40/45Cs, this looks just as good! Yeah, I know. To my knowledge, it is currently just a prototype and not yet annouced by NABI. Seems as if they are looking to win LACMTA's upcoming contract. It looks as it can last 15 years in service easily, which is why I suggested that NICE or even NJT get some. Hell, if NABI weren't so picky with their bids, this would be NYC's perfect fit. No more NABI haters using the 45' length as an excuse (which is irrelavant considering MTA operates MCI's and Prevost's) as to why it will not work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted September 30, 2012 Share #7 Posted September 30, 2012 So this is a 40C redesigned to look like a 45C (aka COMPO)? COOL! (I think most of the NABI designs are ugly). Now that they've revived that design, it would be nice for someone around here to get some (I imagine still doesn't want to try them out, right?) Still, the 45ft might still be good for its higher capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted September 30, 2012 Share #8 Posted September 30, 2012 Not trying to start another good ol' NABI argument here, but do they really have to rip off the Xcelsior in every possibly way with that front end? Same with the new LFW front end... I'm NOT judging the performance of the bus, I'm judging it's looks right now. I'm not arguing with anyone about this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenPotPie Posted September 30, 2012 Share #9 Posted September 30, 2012 Not trying to start another good ol' NABI argument here, but do they really have to rip off the Xcelsior in every possibly way with that front end? Same with the new LFW front end... I'm NOT judging the performance of the bus, I'm judging it's looks right now. I'm not arguing with anyone about this again. The Compo bus came years before the Xcelsior. If anything, New Flyer ripped off NABI, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted September 30, 2012 Share #10 Posted September 30, 2012 The Compo bus came years before the Xcelsior. If anything, New Flyer ripped off NABI, not the other way around. But it's this new design that (IMO) ripped off the Xcelsior, not the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted September 30, 2012 But it's this new design that (IMO) ripped off the Xcelsior, not the old one. I think it is more reminiscent of the LFR if anything, and only then slightly. To the eye, some products may look identical to others, but if you take the time to differentiate, one can see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted September 30, 2012 Share #12 Posted September 30, 2012 I think it is more reminiscent of the LFR if anything, and only then slightly. To the eye, some products may look identical to others, but if you take the time to differentiate, one can see the difference. I never said it was identical, but I think it's similar to the point where it looks like they ripped off New Flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted September 30, 2012 I never said it was identical, but I think it's similar to the point where it looks like they ripped off New Flyer. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 1, 2012 Share #14 Posted October 1, 2012 I never said it was identical, but I think it's similar to the point where it looks like they ripped off New Flyer. Every manufacturer with similar designs have ripped off of each other, Orion/New Flyer, NovaBus/Gillig/ElDorado, NABI/Orion/New Flyer/Gillig, the mixes goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted October 1, 2012 Share #15 Posted October 1, 2012 Every manufacturer with similar designs have ripped off of each other, Orion/New Flyer, NovaBus/Gillig/ElDorado, NABI/Orion/New Flyer/Gillig, the mixes goes on and on. I don't know man, this one is pretty damn close... Kinda off topic, but I see what you mean with some of those. The Eldorado Axess looks a lot like an older NABI LFW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 1, 2012 Share #16 Posted October 1, 2012 I don't know man, this one is pretty damn close... Close? Seriously? Compare this to this to this Just how exactly is that even remotely close? Aside from the smiley faces, they aren't even close to the same. The Orion and Xcelsior share more similarities than NABI does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted October 1, 2012 Share #17 Posted October 1, 2012 Close? Seriously? Compare this to this to this Just how exactly is that even remotely close? Aside from the smiley faces, they aren't even close to the same. The Orion and Xcelsior share more similarities than NABI does! It's really just the front end, smiley face as well as the windshield, that looks like the Xcelsior (and more on the LFW than the Compo), the rest of the bus is completely different even on the LFW and I'm not denying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 1, 2012 Share #18 Posted October 1, 2012 It's really just the front end, smiley face as well as the windshield, that looks like the Xcelsior (and more on the LFW than the Compo), the rest of the bus is completely different even on the LFW and I'm not denying that. Newsflash brah, the compos were out waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the Xcelsiors were born. By this logic, New Flyer copied NABI. So in essence, NABI has all rights to do the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted October 1, 2012 Share #19 Posted October 1, 2012 Newsflash brah, the compos were out waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the Xcelsiors were born. By this logic, New Flyer copied NABI. So in essence, NABI has all rights to do the same! This is a new design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 1, 2012 Share #20 Posted October 1, 2012 This is a new design... A new FRONT design! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted October 1, 2012 Share #21 Posted October 1, 2012 A new FRONT design! And that's the part of the bus that looks like the Xcelsior... Done arguing. I think I made my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted October 1, 2012 Share #22 Posted October 1, 2012 I think if manufacturers actually cared, there would be some court dates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 1, 2012 Share #23 Posted October 1, 2012 And that's the part of the bus that looks like the Xcelsior... Nope, not at all. The 3G and Xcelsior share more similarites than the NABI and the Xcelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compobus fan Posted October 1, 2012 Share #24 Posted October 1, 2012 And that's the part of the bus that looks like the Xcelsior... Done arguing. I think I made my point. If you had said the front resembles the New Flyer LFA, yes, some closeness, but the Xcelsior never had those headlights. LACMTA is sold on composites (45C) this I believe pushes them over the top on the next RFP, brilliant looking, though I love the almost fishbowl look of the 45C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted October 1, 2012 Share #25 Posted October 1, 2012 The Xcelsior and NABI look similar, but the Xcelsior has more of a rearward slope, heading the way of an RTS. The NABI is more straight and also larger and bulging more. That's part of what makes it resemble a fishbowl. Overall, the Xcelsior might resemble the NABI, but that's really in comparison ti everything else. On a side note, I thought this http://www.thomasbus.com/bus-models/school/saf-t-liner-hdx.asp resembled the Xcelsior a bit as well, but that was from expecting the rear engine version of the SafTLiner to look like an RTS, since the popular front engine version has that curved slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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