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October 1962..The Month that changed America and the world forever

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Guys. Let moment to remember 50 years ago this month in October 1962. A 31-day period that changed America and the world forever. A few highlights.

 

1)Cuban Missile Crisis. In 1962, the Soviet Union "secretly" tried to install Nuclear Missiles into Castro's Cuba. Those missiles are directed for the US Coast in Flordia. Instead US salelite planes spot them and thus creates the closest to date the world has been to nuclear war.

 

Then President Kennedy orders the removal of the Russian missles from Cuba. After 3 days, the Soviets does so and ends the crisis. However a year later JFK was murdered. So wild theories suggest that Castro and the USSR was involved with the President death.

 

1)Retuers Clip

 

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2)JFK speech on Crisis.

 

 

2)In several landmark entertainment events, the Rolling Stones and Beatles begin their careers that would change music and world pop culture forever.

 

 

3)James Bond aka 007 makes his film debut for the longest running movie series in Hollywood history.

 

4)Johnny Carson takes over as the "Host" of the Tonight Show. He would remain the star of that show for 30 years until retiring in 1992 and changed TV in America forever. Today Leno, Letterman, O'Brien and newer hosts Kimmel and Fallon would not have jobs because of Carson.

 

 

5)The New York Yankees beat Willie Mays led SF Giants in the 1962 world series. This would be the last championship for the Mickey Mantle/Roger Maris era clubs of the late 1950's and early '60's. (Also last overall before a mini dynasty led by Reggie and Thurman would occur winning the MLB titles in 1977-'78.)

 

 

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PS. These two pop classics was the #1 hits for that month in October 1962.

 

 

1)"Sherry" Four Seasons

 

 

 

 

2)"Monster Mash" (first Halloween themed song to hit #1 in America)

 

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JfK was never afraid to stand up for America and strong enough to take on the evil in the world. and he did it without apologising to or appeasing our enemies. A man who knew what it took to get the economy going after a bad recession. here`s another of JFK`s great speeches from 1962

 

http://www.popmodal.com/video/3508/JFK-The-Case-For-Tax-Cuts

 

so when the vice president biden said snarkily to paul ryan "Oh now youre Jack Kennedy/' ryan`s mistake was he shouldve said that he is a lot closer to jfk than biden, obama, or anyother liberal democrat is. JFK would not be welcome in the democratic party today.

 

I wish we had that type of President today, hopefully we will if romney takes the oath of office on january 20, 2013

 

Joe

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Guys. Let moment to remember 50 years ago this month in October 1962. A 31-day period that changed America and the world forever. A few highlights.

 

 

How are we supposed to remember if like 90% of us weren't born at that time? :P

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How are we supposed to remember if like 90% of us weren't born at that time? :P

 

 

lets see.

 

1)issue of nuclear weapons.-Aftermath of Cuban Crisis, such as Iran and other smaller countries developing them.

2)late night tv-Johnny Carson success turned the late night tv hosting gig into a Hundred-plus Million Dollar industry here in 2012.

3)James Bond series starting.

4)Beatles/Rolling Stones changing popular(rock)music forever.

5)How the Yankees still matter in 2012 and like in 1962, their era of being among the best in MLB for so long might be over.

 

All of these events still impact our lives. So that not the case of being alive 50 years ago. Hey we make a big deal on the NYC subway 100 anniversary in 2004, and how 100-plus years it impacts our lives. Or posts about the recent 25th year of R68 NYC subways cars in service. Or the annivesary of Iron Madien. I am sure you would comments on that and not find this boring lol. That the point

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like ive said many times before, most kids today are not taught history the way we were taught. We were taught the good and bad and were allowed to weigh the information and make our own conclusions of America`s place in history. Today, by reading the posts of the younger members here, its obvious they are taught history that emphasises the bad things weve done. how else can you explain that one member here questions how can he remember 50 years ago, yet in another thread another poster bought up the My Lai massacre in Vietnam that was 44 years ago?

 

The history thats taught today mirrors the news media of today, look at today`s daily news, they promote on the front cover an interview with Rosie 'steel doesn`t melt" O`Donnell and her partner, yet the story about the US Coast Guard rescuing 22 people from a sinking boat in san Francisco Bay is a little blurb on the bottom of page 17. Which story is more important?

 

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I think it was George Santayana who said "he who forgets history is doomed to repeat it".

 

it was a time when the world was very close to another world war and thankful for leadership at the highest level.

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like ive said many times before, most kids today are not taught history the way we were taught. We were taught the good and bad and were allowed to weigh the information and make our own conclusions of America`s place in history. Today, by reading the posts of the younger members here, its obvious they are taught history that emphasises the bad things weve done. how else can you explain that one member here questions how can he remember 50 years ago, yet in another thread another poster bought up the My Lai massacre in Vietnam that was 44 years ago?

 

The history thats taught today mirrors the news media of today, look at today`s daily news, they promote on the front cover an interview with Rosie 'steel doesn`t melt" O`Donnell and her partner, yet the story about the US Coast Guard rescuing 22 people from a sinking boat in san Francisco Bay is a little blurb on the bottom of page 17. Which story is more important?

 

Joe

 

 

Well said my friend. Shane aka Cait's generation who grew up in the '90's and early 2000's were 'not taught the truth' and more negativity. For instance for the WWII era, most teachers only focus on the holocaust and bombing of Hiroshima. Not the fact of the bravery America's men (and a few handful of woman)won a war against a mad man like Hitler who wanted to take over the world.

 

So to Shane and others under age 30, there a world more than history of NYC subway trains and the favorites in heavy metal rock. The Cuban Missile Crisis ranks among the most important miltiary events (aside from World War I, II and Vietnam)of the 20th Century.

 

Plus without the Beatles and Rolling Stones, Heavy Metal Rock (or for that matter current pop music and now current HIP-HOP Pop Music)does not exist. That the point of this thread.

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Other thing. The way Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis was textbook and one of the brilliant replies to a military crisis at least in Modern US(maybe ever)History. Kennedy ignore the advice of his generals and rumored legend VP Lyndon Johnson who wanted to strike at Cuba.immediately.

 

He gave the Russians and then leader kruschev 2 days to remove the missiles. As Phantom pointed out, that an example of leadership of a President we are missing from both major political parties.

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Well said my friend. Shane aka Cait's generation who grew up in the '90's and early 2000's were 'not taught the truth' and more negativity. For instance for the WWII era, most teachers only focus on the holocaust and bombing of Hiroshima. Not the fact of the bravery America's men (and a few handful of woman)won a war against a mad man like Hitler who wanted to take over the world.

 

So to Shane and others under age 30, there a world more than history of NYC subway trains and the favorites in heavy metal rock. The Cuban Missile Crisis ranks among the most important miltiary events (aside from World War I, II and Vietnam)of the 20th Century.

 

Plus without the Beatles and Rolling Stones, Heavy Metal Rock (or for that matter current pop music and now current HIP-HOP Pop Music)does not exist. That the point of this thread.

 

I find it awkward, and a bit rude that you call out a fellow staff member, let alone an entire generation.

 

You bring up WWII and act as if none of us know the efforts that the U.S. put into fighting and protecting other countries.

 

Then you shift towards another bias of yours, of us being obsessed with the subway and solely the "hits" of rock.

 

Lastly, you act as if the discussion was only regarding music, when it had very little to do with this thread. You in fact first brought up the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

Myself and many others would apperciate it if you didn't pass judgement on Generations Y (1982-2000) & Z (2000-+), especiallly if said judgement is based on stereotypes.

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I find it awkward, and a bit rude that you call out a fellow staff member, let alone an entire generation.

 

You bring up WWII and act as if none of us know the efforts that the U.S. put into fighting and protecting other countries.

 

Then you shift towards another bias of yours, of us being obsessed with the subway and solely the "hits" of rock.

 

Lastly, you act as if the discussion was only regarding music, when it had very little to do with this thread. You in fact first brought up the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

Myself and many others would apperciate it if you didn't pass judgement on Generations Y (1982-2000) & Z (2000-+), especiallly if said judgement is based on stereotypes.

 

 

As a teacher( I am several credits from being licensed) it was not a statement on everyone in Generation Y or you or another else on the boards here. You Turbo, Cait and almost everyone on the boards are much smarter and brighter than many from that age group. Of course there some bright young people and not so bright ones in every generations. My Point in last statement above is the teachers and students alike in general, make history "boring" when it does not have to be. So sorry if i seem rude to you or Cait.

 

With that said, as an educator (I am a Teaching staff member at a school in upstate Dutchess NY)who seen the education system go downhill. Many of teachers today get history facts wrong so this is more of a blame not on so called Gen. Y and Z but on all of American society as a whole. That the point.

 

FYI. The main discussion of this thread was about the Cuban Missile Crisis but also the landmark pop cultural events of that Fall in 1962 as well that changed the US and world forever.

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As a teacher( I am several credits from being licensed) it was not a statement on everyone in Generation Y or you or another else on the boards here. You Turbo, Cait and almost everyone on the boards are much smarter and brighter than many from the age group. Of course there some bright young people and not so bright ones. My Point is the teachers and students alike make history boring when it does not have to be. So sorry if i seem rude to you or Cait.

 

With that said, as an educator (I am a Teaching staff member at a school in upstate Dutchess NY)who seen the education system go downhill. Many of teachers today get history facts wrong so this is more of a blame not on so called Gen. Y and Z but on all of American society as a whole. That the point.

 

FYI. The main discussion of this thread was about the Cuban Missile Crisis but also the landmark pop cultural events of that Fall in 1962 as well that changed the US and world forever.

 

Fair enough.

 

To everyone (specifically Shortline) sorry if my post came off as rude. That was not my intention at all, and after reading it back, I sound like such a douche. Please don't take said post as an accurate representation of myself, as that is far from true.

 

Shortline, please check your messages.

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It's all good Turbo. It's over so lets move on.

 

On brighter note, here YT clip of newsreel clip highlights(can not find the oringal TV broadcast of it)of the 1962 World Series. It was the 2nd and last time arguably the two best Centerfield players in MLB history, Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle met in the fall classic. Yankees won a close series in 7 games.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1TPzwIG9I

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if you ask me, nothing changed the world like Christmas Day 1990.

 

 

Very true. The day gorbachev resigned and the USSR forever faded into history along side of other failed empires such as the Roman Empire and several others.

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Back to the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis for a minute. Here article in which how "close" the world was to WWIII.

I was not alive either but this event has been almost been on the backburner until this week's 50th Anniversary.

 

 

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"The Cuban Missile Crisis ended 50 years ago this month. Or did it?

According to documents publicly released for the first time to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the moment when the world stood at the precipice of World War III, Fidel Castro's Cuba nearly became a nuclear power after the crisis was thought to have passed. In angry discussions, Castro haggled with the Soviets to keep 100 tactical nuclear weapons on the island.

History records that the tense negotiations of those 13 days in October 1962 ended when President John F. Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev struck an 11th-hour deal. In exchange for withdrawing their nuclear missiles from Cuba, the Soviets were promised that the United States would not invade the communist-controlled island nation. The standoff has been called the most dangerous moment in recorded history. But in reality it was even worse, according to the newly released information.

Based on a new timeline of events, the crisis did not end with the deal on October 28, 1962 but secretly continued until December.

“The headline here is just how close Cuba came to being a nuclear power," James Hershberg of the Cold War International History Project at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington told the Miami Herald.

The revelations are contained in documents donated to George Washington University's National Security Archive and which are appearing for the first time in English in a new book, The Soviet Cuba Missile Crisis. The book was written by Sergo Mikoyan, the son of the Soviet official at the center of the story, and Archive researcher Svetlana Savranskaya, who completed the work after the author died in 2010."

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/cuban-missile-crisis-unto_n_1967544.html?icid=maing-grid7|maing6|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D220510

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Very true. The day gorbachev resigned and the USSR forever faded into history along side of other failed empires such as the Roman Empire and several others.

 

 

No, I was refering to the launch of HTTP and the World Wide Web. the birth of the Information Age.

 

As much as I respect President Kennedy, nothing has changed the world like the internet.

 

It has changed the way we do business, the way the communicate (IE, right here, right now), even the way we speak on fundimental levels.

 

And BTW*, Gorbachev resigned one year later in 1991

 

You want us to remember history, try getting it right yourself...

 

 

(*see what I mean)

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JfK was never afraid to stand up for America and strong enough to take on the evil in the world. and he did it without apologising to or appeasing our enemies. A man who knew what it took to get the economy going after a bad recession. here`s another of JFK`s great speeches from 1962

 

http://www.popmodal....se-For-Tax-Cuts

 

so when the vice president biden said snarkily to paul ryan "Oh now youre Jack Kennedy/' ryan`s mistake was he shouldve said that he is a lot closer to jfk than biden, obama, or anyother liberal democrat is. JFK would not be welcome in the democratic party today.

 

I wish we had that type of President today, hopefully we will if romney takes the oath of office on january 20, 2013

 

 

Bull-sh!t.

 

You must have absolutely no idea who JFK was if you could possibly be ignorant enough to liken him to Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan... There are four year olds who know more the man than you do.

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Bull-sh!t.

 

You must have absolutely no idea who JFK was if you could possibly be ignorant enough to liken him to Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan... There are four year olds who know more the man than you do.

 

 

oh really genius, i was alive when jfk was president. kennedy was always pro private sector, he never apologised, he never appeased, he CUT taxes, he knew that government does not have all the answers. Thats what romney\ryan believe, obama hates the private sector, he wants to turn america into a socialist utopia, he apologises, appeases and covers up all his bullshit and throws everybody he has to under the bus. if you listened to jfk`s speech that i linked, there is no way in hell that obama, biden, pelosi, reed, or any other leftist democrat would make a speech like that, period.

 

dont ever think you can go toe to toe with me on history cause you are nothing more than an indoctrinated fool

 

Joe

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oh really genius, i was alive when jfk was president.

 

And evidently asleep.

 

kennedy was always pro private sector, he never apologised, he never appeased

 

Obama, after passing Obamacare, you're gonna argue he isn't pro private sector?

 

he CUT taxes

 

Which is what Obama's tax plan does for the middle class. Which is what the ludicrous Bush tax cuts that Obama extended does across the board (unfortunately).

 

he knew that government does not have all the answers.

 

Who argues that it does?

 

Thats what romney\ryan believe

 

No, that's what EVERYBODY believes.

 

obama hates the private sector, he wants to turn america into a socialist utopia, he apologises, appeases and covers up all his bullshit and throws everybody he has to under the bus.

 

This is just a collection of complete bullsh!t. I honestly wish he were half the utopian socialist you claim he is, I'd like him more.

 

if you listened to jfk`s speech that i linked, there is no way in hell that obama, biden, pelosi, reed, or any other leftist democrat would make a speech like that, period.

 

I did listen to it. I find it a completely plausible for Obama to stand by a similar platform. He's a centrist, and JFK was a left-centrist. Obama's kept the Bush tax cuts (something I'm against) and lowered taxes for the middle class, to argue he's not in favor of lower taxes just means you haven't been paying attention.

 

dont ever think you can go toe to toe with me on history cause you are nothing more than an indoctrinated fool

 

 

Name-calling weakens your argument.

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