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Similarities between RRTA and NYC Private Companies timetables

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If anyone remembers, the old private companies like Triboro and Command had these types of timetables, with the map inside, and a map of each direction.

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20110620001039/http://www.triborocoach.com/maps/q19as.pdf

 

The RRTA (Red Rose Transit Authority) of Lancaster has very similar timetables:

 

http://www.redrosetransit.com/Route1_web.pdf

 

My question is what company or person is behind these timetables?

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I've noticed this before as well.

 

Bee-Line is also based on this, but a newer version:

 

http://transportation.westchestergov.com/images/stories/Schedules/rte_13_9.4.12.pdf

 

If you look closely under the "INSTRUCTIONS" box, for BL, it'll say "©2010 WCDOT, Design by Smartmaps, Inc.". SMARTMAPS is the maker

 

http://www.smartmaps.com/

 

This would be the same company that made these tables.

 

Edit: heh even MAPS are made from them.

Edited by mark1447
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Funny you choose my home route, Mark.

 

Smartmaps is a woman-owned graphic design firm specializing in the effective communication of passenger information to the public transportation industry. We have created thousands of system maps, individual route schedules, web graphics, bus stop signage, and shelter displays over the past twenty years. Our maps and schedules communicate to a wide spectrum of transit riders. They emphasize user-friendliness with a clear hierarchy of information elements that enhance rider comprehension. This creative approach to transit maps and graphics has earned Smartmaps national recognition as a leader in transit map design. We take pride in designing maps and schedules that virtually anyone can understand.

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What did the Queens Surface schedules look like? I never seen one before only JB, GL, TC and CB PBL maps.

 

 

Ask and Thou Shall recieve.

 

The Triboro timetables, with the Q19A, the Q53 Limited, and the QM10/QM11 Express timetables, along with the Queens Surface Corporation's Express bus timetable. I don't have any other private company timetables, and these two Queens Surface timetables are the only Queens Surface ones I have. I don't have a local timetable, and I don't know how it looks like.

 

It's a long post:

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A comparison between a local, a limited, and an express Triboro timetable:

 

P1120257.jpg

P1120262.jpg

P1120265.jpg

 

The Queens Surface Corporation, with the QM1, QM1-A, QM2, QM2-A, QM3, QM4:

 

P1120267.jpg

P1120268.jpg

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P1120272.jpg

P1120273.jpg

P1120275.jpg

P1120276.jpg

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P1120281.jpg

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P1120284.jpg

P1120285.jpg

 

And a throw in. A comparison between the 2006, the 2007 and the 2010 Q19A/Q69 timetables.

 

P1120288.jpg

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Ask and Thou Shall recieve.

 

The Triboro timetables, with the Q19A, the Q53 Limited, and the QM10/QM11 Express timetables, along with the Queens Surface Corporation's Express bus timetable. I don't have any other private company timetables, and these two Queens Surface timetables are the only Queens Surface ones I have. I don't have a local timetable, and I don't know how it looks like.

 

It's a long post:

P1120256.jpg

 

A comparison between a local, a limited, and an express Triboro timetable:

 

P1120257.jpg

P1120262.jpg

P1120265.jpg

 

The Queens Surface Corporation, with the QM1, QM1-A, QM2, QM2-A, QM3, QM4:

 

P1120267.jpg

P1120268.jpg

P1120270.jpg

P1120271.jpg

P1120272.jpg

P1120273.jpg

P1120275.jpg

P1120276.jpg

P1120277.jpg

P1120278.jpg

P1120279.jpg

P1120281.jpg

P1120282.jpg

P1120284.jpg

P1120285.jpg

 

And a throw in. A comparison between the 2006, the 2007 and the 2010 Q19A/Q69 timetables.

 

P1120288.jpg

 

 

I will give you up to $200 for the schedules!

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I recently found your site and enjoy reading it. Yesterday, I posted info about the origins of the map format referred to in this thread. Did you receive that post? Just checking since I am new. Thanks and keep the info flowing!

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My name is John Innes and I am the original developer of the two-map bus schedule format described above. I created it in 1988 while working as an independent graphic design contractor for K-Trans in Knoxville (now KAT). My client was marketing director David White and the General Manager was John Andrews. I credit these gentlemen with being the early adoptors of this unique format. While nationwide reports indicated that college seniors were unable to correctly read other city's timetables, this new format was correctly read 80% of the time by third-grade students. I brought the format to the company now called Smartmaps in exchange for being given employment there. At the suggestion of Atlanta's Ketchum Public Relations firm, Cobb County (GA) Transit adopted our new format. Those CCT schedules were named "Most Readable Transit Maps" by the American Passenger Transit Association. Other early clients included transit systems in Chattanooga, Anchorage, Little Rock, and elsewhere. I left Smartmaps on good terms in 1990 to finish my degree in graphic design at the University of Tennessee. Smartmaps went on to become the nation's premier provider of transit-related graphics. I now own User Friendly Maps, designers of parks, recreation, visitor and tourism maps. 

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