Hurricane Sandy: Before and After the Storm: Subway service

[Calvin]

so right now, I checked mta.info for weekend G.O and on the only service change is the in 2 sections. So does this means that the is back to Coney Island?

[Guest Lance]

Yeah, the N has resumed service the Sea Beach line to Coney Island. It happened sometime yesterday.

[Amtrak7]

Are regular weekend GO's supposed to be resuming next weekend? Because the "building 7 line" page shows it still on.

[Amtrak7]

The problem with discounting the LIRR Far Rockaway fare is the fact that the line goes through Nassau County. If special free or discounted tickets are handed out at Far Rock, what prevents people from using it as a P&R? People could aso use them to/from Nassau stations served by FR trains.

 

in the first photo, did half of the bridge got washed away? it little confusing to me.

also i like to say it amazing how mother nature can destroy all that weight with winds. so sad to see this happened.

 

 

It appears the tracks were built on fill which was washed away.

[TheKorean]

For Rockaway service is the LIRR Far Rockaway line running? Maybe MTA can provide shuttle service between LIRR Station and all the affected subway stations on Rockaway and only charge 2.25 to ride from Rockaway to downtown Brooklyn or Manhattan.

[Grand Concourse]

Yeah, that's doubtful... they are not offering deep discounts for the LIRR. You're better off taking the shuttle buses or even taking the express bus.

[pjbr40]

thank amtrack7. i guess that the 200 foot section that was missing that i am hearing about. such shame to see this happen.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

 

 

They took out the most important stuff in the tubes before the flood....

 

 

I wasn't aware of that. Smart move.

[Calvin]

is it true that the and Rockaway is going to close down for months as in until 2013 due to the major damages

 

http://www.mta.info/...rricanSandy.htm

 

and how long is the Lower Manhattan side of the and closing down

[GojiMet86]

The MTA is sending R32s on trucks to the Rockaways for shuttle service, so it'll be a while until the Shuttle returns. Guessing from the damage done by the Hurricane, the shuttle might have to run just between the Rockaway terminals. You can check this link for updates on the Rockways:

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/38084-rebuilding-the-rockaways/

 

 

The MTA to Restore to Howard Beach

 

 

 

The MTA is restoring line subway service to the Howard Beach Station and adding a bus shuttle between the station and Mott Avenue in Far Rockaway.

This service restoration, in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, will provide some level of transit relief to thousands of Rockaway Peninsula residents.

"This segment of the was especially hard hit, as was the Rockaway Peninsula and to be able to get service back to these neighborhoods is a priority for us," said MTA Chairman & CEO Joseph J. Lhota.

service to Howard Beach will begin at 8 a.m. Sunday, providing a foundation for a temporary bus shuttle service to the Rockaways. This special bus connection will remain in place until the heavily damaged subway infrastructure is replaced, a job that is expected to take up to six months.

The scope of the destruction was stunning. The North Channel Bridge, which connects Howard Beach and Broad Channel over Jamaica Bay, as well as a section of Broad Channel known as "The Flats" sustained a tremendous amount of damage. Hundreds of feet of track were destroyed on the bridge and the line segment that runs through the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge. There is no working signal system, the rails are twisted and in some areas, the supporting roadbed is completely washed away. The Broad Channel station was filled with debris, including a jet ski and a speedboat.

The train, which normally runs to Far Rockaway and Lefferts Blvd, is currently terminating only at Lefferts Boulevard. Once service to Howard Beach is restored, the service will once again be split with half going to Howard Beach. A non-stop bus shuttle connection will operate between Howard Beach and the Far Rockaway-Mott Ave. station. Supplemental bus service on the Rockaway Peninsula will also be provided via the regular Q22 service, running between Far Rockaway and Roxbury. Bus service in the Rockaways at night should be possible with the use of light towers and as power is incrementally restored to the area.

Other customer options include:

 

· From the Rockaway Blvd

station, there is direct regular route limited-stop bus service to/from Rockaway Park, Beach 116 Street on the Q53, as well as to/from Arverne, Beach 69 Street on the Q52;

 

· At the Brooklyn College/Flatbush Avenue station on the

there is regular route bus service on the Q35 to Rockaway Park, Beach 116 Street;

 

· From the Parsons-Archer station in Jamaica on the

trains, there is regular local and limited service on the Q113 to/from Far Rockaway, to Mott Avenue and to Seagirt Boulevard.

For up to date MTA travel information, please check Service Status on the MTA home page, and our special Rebuilding the Rockaways page. Customers are urged to use TripPlanner+ on the website to plan their trips, which takes into account all ongoing service outages through the system.

 

[GojiMet86]

 

The MTA to Restore to Howard Beach

 

 

 

The MTA is restoring line subway service to the Howard Beach Station and adding a bus shuttle between the station and Mott Avenue in Far Rockaway.

This service restoration, in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, will provide some level of transit relief to thousands of Rockaway Peninsula residents.

"This segment of the was especially hard hit, as was the Rockaway Peninsula and to be able to get service back to these neighborhoods is a priority for us," said MTA Chairman & CEO Joseph J. Lhota.

service to Howard Beach will begin at 8 a.m. Sunday, providing a foundation for a temporary bus shuttle service to the Rockaways. This special bus connection will remain in place until the heavily damaged subway infrastructure is replaced, a job that is expected to take up to six months.

The scope of the destruction was stunning. The North Channel Bridge, which connects Howard Beach and Broad Channel over Jamaica Bay, as well as a section of Broad Channel known as "The Flats" sustained a tremendous amount of damage. Hundreds of feet of track were destroyed on the bridge and the line segment that runs through the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge. There is no working signal system, the rails are twisted and in some areas, the supporting roadbed is completely washed away. The Broad Channel station was filled with debris, including a jet ski and a speedboat.

The train, which normally runs to Far Rockaway and Lefferts Blvd, is currently terminating only at Lefferts Boulevard. Once service to Howard Beach is restored, the service will once again be split with half going to Howard Beach. A non-stop bus shuttle connection will operate between Howard Beach and the Far Rockaway-Mott Ave. station. Supplemental bus service on the Rockaway Peninsula will also be provided via the regular Q22 service, running between Far Rockaway and Roxbury. Bus service in the Rockaways at night should be possible with the use of light towers and as power is incrementally restored to the area.

Other customer options include:

 

· From the Rockaway Blvd

station, there is direct regular route limited-stop bus service to/from Rockaway Park, Beach 116 Street on the Q53, as well as to/from Arverne, Beach 69 Street on the Q52;

 

· At the Brooklyn College/Flatbush Avenue station on the

there is regular route bus service on the Q35 to Rockaway Park, Beach 116 Street;

 

· From the Parsons-Archer station in Jamaica on the

trains, there is regular local and limited service on the Q113 to/from Far Rockaway, to Mott Avenue and to Seagirt Boulevard.

For up to date MTA travel information, please check Service Status on the MTA home page, and our special Rebuilding the Rockaways page. Customers are urged to use TripPlanner+ on the website to plan their trips, which takes into account all ongoing service outages through the system.

 

[Gong Gahou]

Adding on to what GojiMet said, the MTA said the restoration "is expected to take up to six months", so it would be 2013 by completion.

[Brighton Express]

Wow so that means if the comes back, we might see it run between Mott Av and Beach 116 St.

[Grand Concourse]

Damn, that's one hell of a detour...

[Far Rock Depot]

Once power is restored we will indeed see S trains running Far Rock-Rock Pk.

It will be weird seeing R32s and I'm assuming in four car sets

[Grand Concourse]

Well since they can't be used for opto, I don't see why they can't be 8 car trains, at longer head ways. Which is gonna be needed since they'll have to single track at the wye.

[realizm]

On that provided link shows pics of the old LIRR ROW exposed with all the track ballast (with warped rail) washed away. Is that the half rotten wooden supports (LIRR construction) under the current right of way shown in those pics? And if so, was that section even ballasted all the way through when LIRR trains ran that branch (before IND takeover) ?

[itmaybeokay]

Regarding the line/ Montague Tube collapse: is there any new info on this? I've heard speculation that even if it was only the concrete liner that caved in, that could indicate subsidence of the soil under the tube, which could have twisted the cast iron rings and fatally doomed the tunnel.... Sooo, that would be bad. Anybody know for sure?

[Far Rock Depot]

Well since they can't be used for opto, I don't see why they can't be 8 car trains, at longer head ways. Which is gonna be needed since they'll have to single track at the wye.

 

For that shuttle, they run 3 sets at 20 minute headways. Its been done for years during GOs. And with 20 cars, they'll have 3 4-car trains with 2 4-car sets as spares. Running 8 car sets will give them 2 trains with a 4 car spare

[FamousNYLover]

To help Rockaways resident, Mayor Bloomberg sent temporality ferry service for $2 one way.

http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.c0935b9a57bb4ef3daf2f1c701c789a0/index.jsp?pageID=mayor_press_release&catID=1194&doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fom%2Fhtml%2F2012b%2Fpr410-12.html&cc=unused1978&rc=1194&ndi=1

[FamousNYLover]

That's how non-stop Shuttle Bus G.O is same routing as previous Weekend G.O when there was no trains between Howard Beach and the Rockaways.

[GojiMet86]

Here's the rest of the Rockaway damage:

 

 

 

And this is the MTA's flickr pages:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtacc-esa/

[GojiMet86]

Some of the damage that the Hurricane caused:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631963875021/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631963949608/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631956653242/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631954502897/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631949862962/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631938986786/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631935330434/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631935330430/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631921471055/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631922037716/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631915979762/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631910864145/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631904753688/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631903151680/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631895130389/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631891888173/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631891493890/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631889343888/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631874082823/

 

And this is the MTA's flickr pages:

 

http://www.flickr.co...otos/mtaphotos/

http://www.flickr.co...otos/mtacc-esa/

[R32 3838]

they got about 12-14 Cars of R32's so far at Rock Park, they need about 6-8 more cars and thats it, i lost count but i know theres about 12-14 cars in rock pk, they trucked 3728 (the last car that was there) around 12 am

[TwoTimer]

Now that they had to rip out all the signals and tracks and put new ones in, you wonder if the days of blasting into Broad Channel 40+ n/b and 45+ s/b are over (aka timers added coming into Broad Channel s/b or in both directions).