ttcsubwayfan Posted October 30, 2012 Share #201 Posted October 30, 2012 Even MTA Headquarters fell to the storm, so this could be the very end of the subway system. Sheesh, overly dramatic much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted October 30, 2012 Share #202 Posted October 30, 2012 From the MTA website: MTA working to restore transit service in wake of historic storm Thousands of MTA workers have begun to fan out through the system to inspect and begin repair of the damage caused by Hurricane Sandy, a massively destructive storm of historic proportions. In the period of a few hours, seven East River subway tubes, two Long Island Rail Road tubes linking Manhattan with Queens and two vehicular tunnels were inundated by a wall of water, along with one subway bridge, three subway yards and six bus depots. However, there are some early signs of recovery. Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced that five of the MTA’s seven bridges, the Robert F. Kennedy, Verrazano-Narrows, Bronx-Whitestone, Throgs Neck and Henry Hudson bridges, were fully inspected and reopened at noon. The two Rockaway bridges, Cross Bay Veterans Memorial and Marine Parkway-Gil Hodges bridges, and the Hugh L. Carey and Queens Midtown Tunnel remain closed. The governor also announced partial restoration of bus service at 5 p.m. Buses will operate on a fare-free basis and on a Sunday schedule. A full schedule is expected for Wednesday. Rides will continue to be fare-free. “Our transportation system has never faced a disaster as devastating Hurricane Sandy, which has caused an unparalleled level of damage,” said MTA Chairman Joseph J. Lhota after inspecting many of the hardest-hit areas. “The challenge that we face now is one of assessment, inspection repair and restoration. This will not be a short process, but it will be one that puts safety as its major focus.” The powerful storm affected service throughout the MTA service region. Metro-North Railroad lost electric power from 59th Street to Croton-Harmon on the Hudson Line and east to New Haven on the New Haven Line. The Long Island Rail Road sustained damage in its West Side Yards and suffered flooding in two East River tunnels. Bridges and Tunnels also suffered major damage with flooding of the Hugh L. Carey Tunnel from end to end and the Queens Midtown Tunnel also taking on water. Six bus depots situated in low-lying areas were also disabled by high water. The MTA and its operating agencies have begun the lengthy process of assessment and repair. Damage has been extremely heavy in downtown Manhattan where several subway lines converge. The South Ferry station is filled track to ceiling with water as are several of the subway tunnels. It is too early to say how long it will take to restore the system to full service. There is a separate process that must be followed for each division. Bridges and Tunnels’ two Rockaway bridges did not suffer any major damage but remain closed due to flooding in the surrounding adjacent roadways and neighborhoods. Water remains in both the Queens Midtown and Hugh L. Carey tunnels. Once water levels subside, the water must be pumped out and the tunnels thoroughly inspected by engineers. Subway trains and buses must be inspected along with 5,600 buses, 6,200 subway cars, 600 miles of tracks and 468 subway stations. Metro-North Railroad and the Long Island Rail Road must take a close look at hundreds of miles of tracks, switches, railroad crossing and cars and locomotives. At first light today, Metro-North dispatched diesel-power patrol trains on all three lines, Hudson, Harlem and New Haven, to inspect tracks and remove fallen trees along the way. In Ossining, they encountered a 40-foot boat blocking the tracks. Carrying track workers with chain saws, signal maintainers and power department personnel, the trains made slow progress as they encountered numerous trees snapped and lying across the tracks and hung up in the overhead catenary wires that power the New Haven Line. In some cases, the wires were torn town. Elsewhere, heavy trees have crushed the third rails that power Hudson and Harlem line trains. However, on a positive note, shops and yards in New Haven and Stamford appear to have been unscathed by the storm. This is will be an exhaustive, time-consuming process with one goal: to restore safe and efficient service to 8.5 million daily MTA customers. It must be noted, however, that this process could have taken much longer had we not taken the pre-emptive measure of suspending all service to safeguard our equipment and prepare facilities to the best of our ability. Chairman Lhota added, “Our employees have shown remarkable dedication over the past few days, and I thank them on behalf of every New Yorker. Our employees have never faced a challenge like the one that confronts us now. All of us at the MTA are committed to restoring the system as quickly as we can to help bring New York back to normal.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted October 30, 2012 Share #203 Posted October 30, 2012 From the MTA website: Does this mean they'll have to bring some buses out of retirement or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve Posted October 30, 2012 Share #204 Posted October 30, 2012 I think they should restore G service (if not flooded) first with six-car trains. As part of this, I think the G should resume a temporarily extended service from Jamacia-179th Street to Kings Highway. (Basically, the G would operate as a F/G combo for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted October 30, 2012 Share #205 Posted October 30, 2012 SOUTH FERRY AND WHITEHALL STREET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azspeedbullet Posted October 30, 2012 Share #206 Posted October 30, 2012 Anyone want to go swimming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted October 30, 2012 Share #207 Posted October 30, 2012 I think they should restore G service (if not flooded) first with six-car trains. As part of this, I think the G should resume a temporarily extended service from Jamacia-179th Street to Kings Highway. (Basically, the G would operate as a F/G combo for the time being. Actually that a possiblity. Chairman Lhota stated in this morning (10/30/12) press conference that all Manhattan-Brooklyn tubes which of course includes the Rugtres Tunnel. Guys lets not forget service to Coney Island and the Rockaways may not return until next week at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted October 30, 2012 Share #208 Posted October 30, 2012 thats really a lot of damage. even that new station didnt survive. its going to take weeks or months to reapair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted October 30, 2012 Share #209 Posted October 30, 2012 Just got word 207 street on the is under water. Don't know if those 2 46's are damaged or they moved them. I'm on my way to 207 Yard to see whats up..Pics to come, stay tuned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted October 30, 2012 Share #210 Posted October 30, 2012 Just got word 207 street on the is under water. Don't know if those 2 46's are damaged or they moved them. I'm on my way to 207 Yard to see whats up..Pics to come, stay tuned.... Thanks for keeping us informed of that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKorean Posted October 30, 2012 Share #211 Posted October 30, 2012 Why not begin Q service from Coney Island to Atlantic Avenue or Dekalb? Unless DeKalb is flooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 30, 2012 Share #212 Posted October 30, 2012 The station terminal itself is completely submerged in millions of cubic feet of water. That should give us an idea of the current physical state of the subway tunnels and the river tubes themselves leading into Brooklyn. Total complete devastation. The State of New York along with the US Federal Government must hurry up and accept that the fact levees and seagates must be constructed to prevent such rampant destruction from ever occurring again. Complete their geological surveys and engineering studies at least. I'm no scientist but I really do not see any other alternative to protect vulnerable areas of New York City prone to violent storm surges such as what we have just experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted October 30, 2012 Share #213 Posted October 30, 2012 I think they should restore G service (if not flooded) first with six-car trains. As part of this, I think the G should resume a temporarily extended service from Jamacia-179th Street to Kings Highway. (Basically, the G would operate as a F/G combo for the time being. ...... all Manhattan-Brooklyn tubes...... Can we please leave the fantasy maps until we actually get some REAL trains moving???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 CNG Posted October 30, 2012 Share #214 Posted October 30, 2012 Thanks for keeping us informed of that situation. Yes and please do it safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted October 30, 2012 Share #215 Posted October 30, 2012 Just got word 207 street on the is under water. Don't know if those 2 46's are damaged or they moved them. I'm on my way to 207 Yard to see whats up..Pics to come, stay tuned.... When I went by 207 St yard around 2230 Sunday night, it was EMPTY. Only the 110's remained in there, and despite objections from some of you in here, saving those is hardly a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted October 30, 2012 Share #216 Posted October 30, 2012 Thanks for updating us Dan and Snow. I am eager to know what happened to those R46s. I can't believe Sea Beach was underwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve Posted October 30, 2012 Share #217 Posted October 30, 2012 The service idea is actually quite possible unless Newton Creek overflowed into the tunnels. And even then, the could just short-turn at Bedford/Nostrand. Other lines I think could be restored within 48 hours include: - service from Middle Village to Marcy Avenue - service from Jamacia Center to Marcy Avenue - service from Canarsie (if it isn't flooded) or Broadway Junction (if Canarsie IS flooded) to Bedford Avenue (if Bedford Avenue is not flooded.) If Bedford Avenue is flooded, this is most likely not possible. - service from 3rd Avenue to Pelham Bay Park - service from Grand Concourse/149th Street to Woodlawn - service along Franklin Avenue (if Prospect Park isn't flooded) - POSSIBLY Airtrain JFK could run service (for free or typical NY Subway fare temporarily) to link Jamacia with South Queens. However, it is possible the open cut south of Federal Circle and the at-grade stretch between Federal Circle and Lefferts Bvld. (where the yard is) are still underwater..... Does anyone know if it was? - service from Flushing/Main St. to Queensboro Plaza, if Corona Yard wasn't flooded... does anyone know if it was? Of course.... if some lines are not connected to yards that are not flooded or do not have any trains stored on them, then it would be impossible to start them up until proper rolling stock can be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted October 30, 2012 Share #218 Posted October 30, 2012 The service idea is actually quite possible unless Newton Creek overflowed into the tunnels. And even then, the could just short-turn at Bedford/Nostrand. Other lines I think could be restored within 48 hours include: - service from Middle Village to Marcy Avenue - service from Jamacia Center to Marcy Avenue - service from Canarsie (if it isn't flooded) or Broadway Junction (if Canarsie IS flooded) to Bedford Avenue (if Bedford Avenue is not flooded.) If Bedford Avenue is flooded, this is most likely not possible. - service from 3rd Avenue to Pelham Bay Park - service from Grand Concourse/149th Street to Woodlawn - service along Franklin Avenue (if Prospect Park isn't flooded) - POSSIBLY Airtrain JFK could run service (for free or typical NY Subway fare temporarily) to link Jamacia with South Queens. However, it is possible the open cut south of Federal Circle and the at-grade stretch between Federal Circle and Lefferts Bvld. (where the yard is) are still underwater..... Does anyone know if it was? - service from Flushing/Main St. to Queensboro Plaza, if Corona Yard wasn't flooded... does anyone know if it was? Of course.... if some lines are not connected to yards that are not flooded or do not have any trains stored on them, then it would be impossible to start them up until proper rolling stock can be found. The 7 train Corona Yard is a flood prone area. Many Casey Strengel buses were to be moved out of the area to the higher ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted October 30, 2012 Share #219 Posted October 30, 2012 Some bus routes have gone into operation. But WHERE can you buy a Metrocard if subway stations are closed? Who carries $5.50 in coins to ride an express bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted October 30, 2012 Share #220 Posted October 30, 2012 Some bus routes have gone into operation. But WHERE can you buy a Metrocard if subway stations are closed? Who carries $5.50 in coins to ride an express bus? The Fare is free today and tommorow (Wednesday)...unless subways is operating...if it is operating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted October 31, 2012 Share #221 Posted October 31, 2012 The Fare is free today and tommorow (Wednesday)...unless subways is operating...if it is operating Have you watched the news? The subways are out indefinately. We have no idea when they are coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 31, 2012 Share #222 Posted October 31, 2012 So, if the new station is out of commission, would they reopen the old loop station? *Obviously as a last resort, not like they probably would. *not meant to be taken seriously, just wondering. To make it clear, I do not care if the old loop is ever activated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted October 31, 2012 Share #223 Posted October 31, 2012 Have you watched the news? The subways are out indefinately. We have no idea when they are coming back. Don't even bother with the news, if you want the info go there mta website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted October 31, 2012 Share #224 Posted October 31, 2012 Only the 110's remained in there, and despite objections from some of you in here, saving those is hardly a priority. Aww, you're no fun. I'm kidding, I'm kidding! But in all seriousness, thanks for the update guys. I'm interested in knowing the fate of the R46s parked there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 31, 2012 Share #225 Posted October 31, 2012 Have you watched the news? The subways are out indefinately. We have no idea when they are coming back. Thank you for the insider scoop chief. Keep us updated with any latest developments from operations central command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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