mine248 Posted September 29, 2014 Share #251 Posted September 29, 2014 The Toronto Rocket. I posted it in response to your claim that the TR had its front door on the side. Then like the R211 is going to be like the Toronto Rocket! Just like some MTA need things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exseed Posted September 30, 2014 Share #252 Posted September 30, 2014 In addition to the other improvements, I hope they build the R211's without center poles, and replace them with more conveniently located ceiling bars instead. In my experience with riding crowded trains during rush hour every day, It seems the center poles only impede passenger movement and are an inefficient use of space. When people stand around the pole, especially given that the poles are located right by the doors on some trains, they tend to block people from going further into the car and using all of the available space efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted October 1, 2014 Share #253 Posted October 1, 2014 I got an exclusive pic here! Link where I got it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R211_(New_York_City_Subway_car) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 2, 2014 Share #254 Posted October 2, 2014 I got an exclusive pic here! Link where I got it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R211_(New_York_City_Subway_car) that's not exclusive. It was directly from the capital plan that the MTA put out, that has been known for a couple weeks. It was posted and you could have looked at the links to find out where it was from. Also, things on wikipedia come from somewhere. Wikipedia does not make up the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 2, 2014 Share #255 Posted October 2, 2014 The information from Wikipedia was from here...someone said they was gonna edit it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSubwayBuff Posted October 2, 2014 Share #256 Posted October 2, 2014 Damn that is butt ugly why cant they make another window where the Mta logo js it would look much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 2, 2014 Share #257 Posted October 2, 2014 Damn that is butt ugly why cant they make another window where the Mta logo js it would look much better its just a rendering. It doesn't mean that is what it's final design will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 2, 2014 Share #258 Posted October 2, 2014 Damn that is butt ugly why cant they make another window where the Mta logo js it would look much better The picture was very small in the Program PDF; an inch or two square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 3, 2014 Share #259 Posted October 3, 2014 I got an exclusive pic here! Link where I got it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R211_(New_York_City_Subway_car) Yeah it was originally posted in a recent MTA report on the 2015-19 capital budget. To me I think its a real cool design. I guess the anti-climbers are that way for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted October 3, 2014 Share #260 Posted October 3, 2014 the cab door window is fine, but the window to the left is a litle big there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted October 4, 2014 Share #261 Posted October 4, 2014 Looks funny to me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted October 4, 2014 Share #262 Posted October 4, 2014 In addition to the other improvements, I hope they build the R211's without center poles, and replace them with more conveniently located ceiling bars instead. In my experience with riding crowded trains during rush hour every day, It seems the center poles only impede passenger movement and are an inefficient use of space. When people stand around the pole, especially given that the poles are located right by the doors on some trains, they tend to block people from going further into the car and using all of the available space efficiently. You aren't thinking about children who can't reach it, like 12 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 4, 2014 Share #263 Posted October 4, 2014 Or those who are just plain short or simply can't reach the ceiling bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted October 4, 2014 Share #264 Posted October 4, 2014 AKA me (for another 2-3 years) and my grandma, which didn't get a senior metrocard yet and can manage holding onto a pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted October 4, 2014 Share #265 Posted October 4, 2014 How about red sachets on the R211 for disability people? By the way, they can make side poles to make it the best train for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exseed Posted October 5, 2014 Share #266 Posted October 5, 2014 Well, there would still be places for vertically challenged people to hold on to lol: the poles along the seats, and the bars at the end of the seat rows by the doors. If anything, more poles can be placed along the seats to make up for the lack of center poles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted October 5, 2014 Share #267 Posted October 5, 2014 Well, there would still be places for vertically challenged people to hold on to lol: the poles along the seats, and the bars at the end of the seat rows by the doors. If anything, more poles can be placed along the seats to make up for the lack of center poles... Great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 5, 2014 Share #268 Posted October 5, 2014 Well, there would still be places for vertically challenged people to hold on to lol: the poles along the seats, and the bars at the end of the seat rows by the doors. If anything, more poles can be placed along the seats to make up for the lack of center poles... also on the ceiling of the cars at the end of the cars, especially in cab cars. On the train it gets so crowded and often i need to be in the first/last cars and sometimes I can't hold onto anything and I fall over people. Also in the center of the R160s there is a bar on top, that should have straphangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 5, 2014 Share #269 Posted October 5, 2014 Well, there would still be places for vertically challenged people to hold on to lol: the poles along the seats, and the bars at the end of the seat rows by the doors. If anything, more poles can be placed along the seats to make up for the lack of center poles... Then you have people crowding by the sides and the doors, which is why we have center poles in the first place (to draw them into the center of the cars). The current NTT bench-pole style is fine; it allows for 6 people to sit normally, and in some cases 7 or 8. Splitting that with more poles wouldn't be particularly useful, since the poles are basically about two arms' length away from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 9, 2014 Share #270 Posted October 9, 2014 Im looking at conceptual computer generated images of next gen cars for the London Underground. Notice that right away you can see the striking similarities to the R211 cars: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/living-room-comfort-inside-new-trains-unveiled-16bn-tube-upgrade-9783911.html I guess the first R211s in testing when it happens will look alot like this. Since England is going in the same direction in radical new car designs as the MTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted October 9, 2014 Share #271 Posted October 9, 2014 I actually am happy with the R211 design at the moment. I think the MTA wants to try something different instead of the usual design. It will be interesting (if they go through with the design) to see those on the , , , and . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 9, 2014 Share #272 Posted October 9, 2014 Its possible that 207th Street and Jamaica Yard will get these cars. Also CI Yard as the MTA is considering placing them on the L and N because passenger usage has been growing on these lines almost like a spike in ridership within the last few years. So you may actually see these cars on some of the lines you've mentioned such as the F (Queens Bvld CBTC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 10, 2014 Share #273 Posted October 10, 2014 I would personally like the MTA experiment more with digital ad panels, but the odds of that happening are slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted October 10, 2014 Share #274 Posted October 10, 2014 digital billboard on train can be done. if the digital billboards along highway can be done, anything can. it will raise the money quicker because you can show more then you can now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted October 10, 2014 Share #275 Posted October 10, 2014 The R211 maybe assigned to Pitkin yard for service because of the R46s retirement and increase of service due to may be extended to lefferts blvd around the next pick and all service to Rockaways, Possible Coney Island may get some for fleet growth for , and Jamaica could get around 410 for regular fleet replacement of r46 it could end up on any of jamaica routes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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