LIRR 154 Posted November 14, 2012 Share #26 Posted November 14, 2012 Does anybody have any information on how badly Lead Drawbridge (Long Beach branch LIRR) was damaged? I'm hearing all signals and switches has to be built up from scratch. They are using a scoot for the time being. I would to see a shot of the diesels heading into Long Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted November 14, 2012 Share #27 Posted November 14, 2012 The 7:36 AM from West Hempstead, due Penn Station at 8:29 AM, is being diverted to Hunterspoint Avenue. Customers for Penn Station must transfer at Jamaica. Man, a West Hempstead to Hunters Pt train......never thought I'd see THAT happen! I think they've done that before. Not sure how long ago, but probably the last time was when an Amtrak train derailed in one of the East River Tunnels. What was interesting with the recovery schedules last week were the Hicksville<->Hunterspoint and Hunterspoint->Freeport local runs. Never thought I'd see those either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 14, 2012 Share #28 Posted November 14, 2012 @Restrict: Indeed. When that Amtrak train derailed in ERT they did divert a few WH trains to HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted November 14, 2012 Share #29 Posted November 14, 2012 I'm hearing all signals and switches has to be built up from scratch. They are using a scoot for the time being. I would to see a shot of the diesels heading into Long Beach. Aren't the C3s restricted from Long Beach due to clearance issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted November 14, 2012 Share #30 Posted November 14, 2012 Aren't the C3s restricted from Long Beach due to clearance issues? They ran a test diesel train to Long Beach last night to see if it would fit in LB station and it did... On the news they showed footage of those LIRR diesels in the Long Beach station and running in service along the line.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 14, 2012 Share #31 Posted November 14, 2012 Aren't the C3s restricted from Long Beach due to clearance issues? Yes. But they probably allow them for the time being to at least get some service there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted November 15, 2012 Share #32 Posted November 15, 2012 So all of a sudden there ISN'T a clearance issue? Or did they remove the canopies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted November 15, 2012 Share #33 Posted November 15, 2012 Aren't the C3s restricted from Long Beach due to clearance issues? The only branch that has clearance issues like that is Port Washington, since the one crossover at Great Neck like inches from the top of the M7s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 15, 2012 Share #34 Posted November 15, 2012 So all of a sudden there ISN'T a clearance issue? Or did they remove the canopies? Not sure but I think they got torn down somewhat since a lot of stations on the branch have been damaged. The only branch that has clearance issues like that is Port Washington, since the one crossover at Great Neck like inches from the top of the M7s. There is also a clearance issue at the Long Beach branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tun Posted November 16, 2012 Share #35 Posted November 16, 2012 The diesel equipment is allowed on Long Beach track 6 per a recent general notice. It can also fit on all Port Washington tracks except track 5 per special instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted November 19, 2012 Share #36 Posted November 19, 2012 As we recover from Sandy, I know it's good to have some train service as opposed to none at all (and for that I am grateful) however, I think the LIRR's service planning department may need to revaluate the trains they've canceled/combined as well as the stopping patterns they've assigned to others. For example...how could one think it was possibly even SAFE, to combine the already overcrowded 5:22 Express to Ronkonkoma, with the already at capacity 5:41, I've observed this train a few nights last week..and its literally crush loaded. Same with the 5:46 and 6:08 trains to Hungtington, you've combined 2 runs that are normally crowded themselves. Every train from Penn that passed through Jamaica was severely packed, but some of the Mainline and Huntington trains looked dangerously beyond capacity. Perhaps with combined trains, need to come revised stopping patterns,I'm sure at this point people will take transferring at Jamaica as opposed to being forced to uncomfortably stand all the way to Suffolk county. Something should be done to make sure all trains have safe, even loads...(i.e remove Hicksville from the 5:41 express to Ronkonkoma, have only Oyster Bay trains stop at New Hyde Park/Merillon Av etc..whatever it takes to evenly distribute the demand amongst equipment east of Jamaica) I certainly hope whats in place now this isn't the new "norm". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted November 21, 2012 Share #37 Posted November 21, 2012 It can also fit on all Port Washington tracks except track 5 per special instructions. That I have to question, that bridge at Great Neck is just enough to fit an M7 and I've heard diesels are restricted on the Manhasset viaduct. The only time I have ever seen diesel equipment on the port washington line was the 1999 fan trip for the retirement of the p72s and older diesel stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted November 21, 2012 Share #38 Posted November 21, 2012 What the hell is preventing Amtrak from getting into the other tubes, rats? They should have been able to drain at least one of the other tubes out, because these holiday trains get dangerously crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share #39 Posted November 21, 2012 What the hell is preventing Amtrak from getting into the other tubes, rats? They should have been able to drain at least one of the other tubes out, because these holiday trains get dangerously crowded. I was unable to find a press release that specifically dealt with the ER tubes. There was a power substation problem in Jersey that limited trains in the Hudson tubes. Since Amtrak has a lot of through trains, there might have been more congestion than usual at Penn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 21, 2012 Share #40 Posted November 21, 2012 That I have to question, that bridge at Great Neck is just enough to fit an M7 and I've heard diesels are restricted on the Manhasset viaduct. The only time I have ever seen diesel equipment on the port washington line was the 1999 fan trip for the retirement of the p72s and older diesel stuff. Apperantly it's not restricted: http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=70221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share #41 Posted November 21, 2012 Apperantly it's not restricted: http://www.railroad....hp?f=63&t=70221 I have a LIRR ETT May 2009, GO 101 with the following restrictions: Long Beach: All station platform tracks: E-15, DE30,E-20, DM30, C3 equipment coaches Port Washington: Station Platform tracks 4 and 5 only: E-15, DE30,E-20, DM30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted November 24, 2012 Share #42 Posted November 24, 2012 Since this seems like the most appropriate place to post this, its been announced by the Governors office that electric service on the Long Beach line will be restored Sunday. Source Governor Cuomo also announced that the Long Island Rail Road is restoring electric service on the Long Beach branch for Sunday. The Long Beach branch will operate a regular weekend schedule Sunday, with four extra holiday trains running in each direction. On Monday, four a.m. peak trains and four p.m. peak trains will be canceled due to reduced capacity out of two of Amtrak's East River tunnels following Sandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share #43 Posted November 24, 2012 Since this seems like the most appropriate place to post this, its been announced by the Governors office that electric service on the Long Beach line will be restored Sunday. Source MTA website not yet updated to reflect service restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted November 25, 2012 Share #44 Posted November 25, 2012 http://mta.info/news/stories/?story=884 here it is, Long Beach branch is back to M7s again. For those who wanted photos of the diesels there, unfortunately that ship has sailed or in train terms, that train has left the station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 27, 2012 Share #45 Posted November 27, 2012 http://mta.info/news...ries/?story=884 here it is, Long Beach branch is back to M7s again. For those who wanted photos of the diesels there, unfortunately that ship has sailed or in train terms, that train has left the station It's a sad day for some.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted November 27, 2012 Share #46 Posted November 27, 2012 For the foamers, maybe, but I get more than enough of the diesels on the ride back home. I'd always wanted to see them run on electrified tracks but Sandy sort of whittled that down to a "I hope this never happens again" deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share #47 Posted November 27, 2012 It's a sad day for some.... But to quote Mr. Spock: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." My friends in East Rockaway were tired of the bus and infrequent service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted November 27, 2012 Share #48 Posted November 27, 2012 But to quote Mr. Spock: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." My friends in East Rockaway were tired of the bus and infrequent service. How often did the weekend bus run anyway? The MTA site made no mention of headways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share #49 Posted November 28, 2012 How often did the weekend bus run anyway? The MTA site made no mention of headways. I couldn't find any press releases that stated the substitute bus service schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirtiger Posted November 29, 2012 Share #50 Posted November 29, 2012 That I have to question, that bridge at Great Neck is just enough to fit an M7 and I've heard diesels are restricted on the Manhasset viaduct. The only time I have ever seen diesel equipment on the port washington line was the 1999 fan trip for the retirement of the p72s and older diesel stuff. curious why? any further insights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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