qjtransitmaster Posted November 7, 2012 Share #1 Posted November 7, 2012 Which bus has the most HP and powerful yet efficient engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted November 7, 2012 Share #2 Posted November 7, 2012 lol at the thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted November 7, 2012 Share #3 Posted November 7, 2012 Which bus has the most HP and powerful yet efficient engine? Going out on a limb, but I think the MCI J4500 powered with a Cummins ISX engine. The ISX can be rated at either 425 or 450 HP. ISX replaced the ISM (M11 basically) in 2010. The DD13 (another engine option for the J4500) also ties the ISX as well in terms of HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 7, 2012 Share #4 Posted November 7, 2012 I love the superlative title. I'd think the RTS or the Orion 5 Diesels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted November 7, 2012 Share #5 Posted November 7, 2012 The New Flyer XD40...very efficient, and those things can take off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerdodge9 Posted November 8, 2012 Share #6 Posted November 8, 2012 Orion VII OG CNGs. Even more so when they first came in '03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 8, 2012 Share #7 Posted November 8, 2012 The New Flyer XD40...very efficient, and those things can take off! They can't take hills for shit, they are not the most powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted November 8, 2012 Share #8 Posted November 8, 2012 They can't take hills for shit, they are not the most powerful. cause of that stupidd LBSS...it cant show its performance! LBSS makes it shift slower..of course they wont take hills...the other XD40s on youtube...they roll...they really roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 8, 2012 Share #9 Posted November 8, 2012 cause of that stupidd LBSS...it cant show its performance! LBSS makes it shift slower..of course they wont take hills...the other XD40s on youtube...they roll...they really roll... Even without the LBSS...they couldn't take Grymes Hill for shit. The Orion Vs took Grymes Hill better than all 3 of the new buses. Don't try and justify what I've known since they arrived at Castleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted November 8, 2012 Share #10 Posted November 8, 2012 cause of that stupidd LBSS...it cant show its performance! LBSS makes it shift slower..of course they wont take hills...the other XD40s on youtube...they roll...they really roll... It's the opposite buddy. As for the most powerful, the 2011/12 C40s. Just going by from experience in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted November 8, 2012 Share #11 Posted November 8, 2012 Even without the LBSS...they couldn't take Grymes Hill for shit. The Orion Vs took Grymes Hill better than all 3 of the new buses. Don't try and justify what I've known since they arrived at Castleton. ok....if u say so then ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 8, 2012 Share #12 Posted November 8, 2012 When it comes to power, its the motorcoaches hands down. The MCIs, Vanhools, Prevosts and ect, they of course have more power than the 40ft buses running around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 8, 2012 Share #13 Posted November 8, 2012 Even without the LBSS...they couldn't take Grymes Hill for shit. The Orion Vs took Grymes Hill better than all 3 of the new buses. Don't try and justify what I've known since they arrived at Castleton. With that said, the Orion V's are a bit sluggish, though it may be due to its powerplant. In my experience, in general, buses equipped with Cummins engines have a fast accelaration, yet tend to have a difficult time running at a constant speed. With Detroit engines, it is almost the exact opposite. While I can't say all that much regarding transmissions, Allison knows how to make the ride smooth. Personality is just an extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerdodge9 Posted November 8, 2012 Share #14 Posted November 8, 2012 When it comes to power, its the motorcoaches hands down. The MCIs, Vanhools, Prevosts and ect, they of course have more power than the 40ft buses running around. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 9, 2012 Share #15 Posted November 9, 2012 With that said, the Orion V's are a bit sluggish, though it may be due to its powerplant. In my experience, in general, buses equipped with Cummins engines have a fast accelaration, yet tend to have a difficult time running at a constant speed. With Detroit engines, it is almost the exact opposite. While I can't say all that much regarding transmissions, Allison knows how to make the ride smooth. Personality is just an extra. Cummins have more output power in general. There are some DD powered buses that can match the power of a Cummins powered bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #16 Posted November 9, 2012 Cummins have more output power in general. There are some DD powered buses that can match the power of a Cummins powered bus. Any specific reason why, other than the way they are each built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 9, 2012 Share #17 Posted November 9, 2012 This topic is kind of pointless. The old Detroit Diesels were the most powerful. Seeing as 99% of all new diesel buses have the same Cummins ISL engines with 280hp, and 99.9% of the CNG's have the Cummins ISL-G most are about the same. However, it depends on the wieght of the vehicle, and the calibration of the transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 10, 2012 Share #18 Posted November 10, 2012 In terms of today's MC offerings, both DD and Cummins offer an engine that can be rated at 450 hp and 1650 lbft torque. Fuel efficiency is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted November 18, 2012 Share #19 Posted November 18, 2012 mmmmmmmmmm this should not be what is the most powerfull bus but what is the most powerfull engine/powertrain in a bus. Remember it all comes down to what the TA orders for its specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted December 18, 2012 Share #20 Posted December 18, 2012 I'd say the 3G since it's good on hills and their acceleration is fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 20, 2012 Share #21 Posted December 20, 2012 Ok..... The most powerful buses are are motorcoaches with Cummins ISX engines. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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