what lines will benefit from well these?

[qjtransitmaster 216]

http://www.datbv.com/en/index.html

 

shockingly their pricetag is reasonable.

[Chargerdodge9 51]

As in NYCT bus routes?

[peacemak3r 1,351]

Well this is the NYCT Bus forum.

 

I don't think Manhattan has a lot of ramps that can utilize these.

[Chargerdodge9 51]

What would even be the point? They would only be good if the Trains are disabled again.

[qjtransitmaster 216]

What would even be the point? They would only be good if the Trains are disabled again.

 

get creative some trips via train are roundabout. Think NW queens. and cough SI cough.

[JubaionBx12+SBS 417]

There are no lines that would need buses to travel via the water. This should be locked really soon.

[Chargerdodge9 51]

There are no lines that would need buses to travel via the water. This should be locked really soon.

 

I couldn't agree more. Edited November 11, 2012 by Chargerdodge9

[checkmatechamp13 2,274]

How fast can these buses go (on land and in water)? And how much do they cost?

 

In any case, if a line goes through flood-prone areas, it would help. If the bus otherwise runs like a normal bus, I don't see the harm in using it on a regular basis. (But then again, if an area is flooded, who's going to stand in a flooded area to wait for a bus?)

 

Anyway, I know what you're getting at. You're saying those buses should replace the SI ferry (by extending routes that end at St. George). If the buses aren't that expensive and they run faster than the ferry does, then sure, go for it. But if they don't go any faster than the ferry, then personally, I would just run fast ferries and run them more frequently than the current ferry.

[Chargerdodge9 51]

How fast can these buses go (on land and in water)? And how much do they cost?

 

In any case, if a line goes through flood-prone areas, it would help. If the bus otherwise runs like a normal bus, I don't see the harm in using it on a regular basis. (But then again, if an area is flooded, who's going to stand in a flooded area to wait for a bus?)

 

Anyway, I know what you're getting at. You're saying those buses should replace the SI ferry (by extending routes that end at St. George). If the buses aren't that expensive and they run faster than the ferry does, then sure, go for it. But if they don't go any faster than the ferry, then personally, I would just run fast ferries and run them more frequently than the current ferry.

 

Which brings up a new question, should the MTA takeover the Staten Island Ferry (like MBTA ferry in Boston)? Edited November 11, 2012 by Chargerdodge9

[qjtransitmaster 216]

There are no lines that would need buses to travel via the water. This should be locked really soon.

 

you still haven't looked over NYC as a whole that is why you say that.

[East New York 4,046]

Those are pretty interesting actually, but here in NYC??? Not a chance.

[qjtransitmaster 216]

How fast can these buses go (on land and in water)? And how much do they cost?

 

In any case, if a line goes through flood-prone areas, it would help. If the bus otherwise runs like a normal bus, I don't see the harm in using it on a regular basis. (But then again, if an area is flooded, who's going to stand in a flooded area to wait for a bus?)

 

Anyway, I know what you're getting at. You're saying those buses should replace the SI ferry (by extending routes that end at St. George). If the buses aren't that expensive and they run faster than the ferry does, then sure, go for it. But if they don't go any faster than the ferry, then personally, I would just run fast ferries and run them more frequently than the current ferry.

 

I am currently looking into that and once I finish my research I will tell you but so far some go 8 knots. Others that are faster I am looking for that. Another way would be to link upper manhattan with astoria vernon blvd example a bus like this can serve 86th or 96th street in manhattan and then go directly to roosevelt island. Example. Another is to go to vernon blvd and link with Q19 just like that without going to 125th street is another implementation. Others I haven't came up with yet. I heard that some companies will customize it for transit. So they may be able to get a speed upgrade allowing em to actually kill the SI ferry. However the current ones I know of are best with the others.

 

Those are pretty interesting actually, but here in NYC??? Not a chance.

 

I am questioning where they can go myself. College point to hunts point anyone?

[CDTA 724]

I would say the North Shore express routes, if they were re-drawn a little bit.

[qjtransitmaster 216]

I would say the North Shore express routes, if they were re-drawn a little bit.

 

Which ones? The ones to St george? Edited November 11, 2012 by qjtransitmaster

[CDTA 724]

Which ones? The ones to St george?

 

 

X10, X12, X14, X30, X42

[qjtransitmaster 216]

X10, X12, X14, X30, X42

 

que? how would those lines benefit explain?

[XcelsiorBoii4883 42]

I cant really see these on the on NYC routes...maybe only for emergencies...if subways to manhattan or bridges closed etc...use these to get across...

[qjtransitmaster 216]

I cant really see these on the on NYC routes...maybe only for emergencies...if subways to manhattan or bridges closed etc...use these to get across...

 

I see I guess I will have to give examples then Try this upper manhattan crosstown. If used on M86 select runs will be able to replace Q103 via the water instead of time consuming traffic hell on the FDR to RFK bridge. Reducing operating costs and increasing ridership greatly. Q102 will be able to get to upper manhattan like that instead of getting to the then redbus. BX27 will be able to get to college point via water or BX6 to flushing using these types of buses. And yes they can be good for emergencies as well.

 

CMON people think outside the box way outside look at land mass and areas not near bridges and get creative in cutting travel time. And when faster models can be used it can kill ferries but only in short distance can they pull that off.

Edited November 12, 2012 by qjtransitmaster

[qjtransitmaster 216]

Greyhound would be able to link LI to NE with those badboys. Also MTA railroads would be able to kill the ossining ferry if the when that bus gets customized to become fast on water. Replace 3 vehicles with 1 concept. A PJ to waterbury via bridgeport intercity line can be made if those buses get fast enough. But I understand your reasoning.

[QM1to6Ave 1,690]

Enjoy fishing that one back to land when it breaks down in the water

[Via Garibaldi 8 8,598]

There are no lines that would need buses to travel via the water. This should be locked really soon.

 

LOL!

[qjtransitmaster 216]

Enjoy fishing that one back to land when it breaks down in the water

 

That is what safety tests are for to prevent that from happening.

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

You do realize the Ferry crosses thru a busy waterway right? What happens when you have this boat bus vs a multi ton cargo ship? Why would I risk my life crossing from SI to Manhattan on these little boats compared to the current boats? Wouldn't it be simpler to have the ferries carry the buses instead?

[MHV9218 5,215]

What? No.

[Turbo19 2,509]

Enjoy fishing that one back to land when it breaks down in the water

 

I'm glad others share this thought.

 

You do realize the Ferry crosses thru a busy waterway right? What happens when you have this boat bus vs a multi ton cargo ship? Why would I risk my life crossing from SI to Manhattan on these little boats compared to the current boats? Wouldn't it be simpler to have the ferries carry the buses instead?

 

About that...

 

Anyway, I could see this perhaps working a tourist shuttle, but not for regular service. I for one wouldn't want to ride a bus submerged in water daily.