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I certainly wouldn't try to pull a d-bag move in making a 2nd account and claiming to be another person while still posting the same bs conspiracy shit and posting threads like 'if you were a bus' or quoting whole posts to make a one liner because I'm too lazy....

Oh please, don't bring up that failed "If you were a bus" tread again.... <_<

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I KNEW IT!

 

We've known it was him for a while. I knew it was him ever since the Sandy Hook shooting thread and I even brought up the idea it could be Charger on the same thread. The conspiracy thing was the giveaway.

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I KNEW IT!

 

So now you know in case you was wondering why I was challenging him in the other thread (flaming Grand Concourse in the process). I am into conspiracy theories however this is a different story. Well live and let live, let him post as he wants. He was allowed to re-register let's leave it at that then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's probably some treehuggers pushing this.

 

 

 

Fair enough.

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Late much.

 

Nah, it's still pretty funny to me and many others that you got banned and than went and made yourself a whole new account just so you could bug everybody on here...

 

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Re: the whole humans > horses argument, say what you will, but the end fact is that these animals are being mistreated. I don't care how much you hate horses, it's simply unethical to brutalize an animal just cause it isn't us...kinda Michael Vick thinking right there, not right. 

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Re: the whole humans > horses argument, say what you will, but the end fact is that these animals are being mistreated. I don't care how much you hate horses, it's simply unethical to brutalize an animal just cause it isn't us...kinda Michael Vick thinking right there, not right. 

 

yes, way turn my point and try to make me look like an uncaring ass because you misunderstood me.

 

There are people out there who are treated WORSE then these horses. Why isn't he standing around passing around flyers about them..?

 

There are horses treated to even worse fates. Tell you what, take a trip up to Montreal, go to a supermarket and ask the folks at the deil counter for "viande de cheval".

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yes, way turn my point and try to make me look like an uncaring ass because you misunderstood me.

 

There are people out there who are treated WORSE then these horses. Why isn't he standing around passing around flyers about them..?

 

There are horses treated to even worse fates. Tell you what, take a trip up to Montreal, go to a supermarket and ask the folks at the deil counter for "viande de cheval".

For once, I have to agree with you.

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There are horses treated to even worse fates. Tell you what, take a trip up to Montreal, go to a supermarket and ask the folks at the deil counter for "viande de cheval".

 

Exactly, horses slaughtered for its meat. Seen it in a video, had dinner afterwards anyway, I ain't no vegan. Nethertheless, I agree, there are better causes for basic human rights to invest our time in. I did it recently @ Lehman College helping senior citizens affected by Hurricane Sandy for three 12 hour shifts which I can proudly show on my resume along with my IT credentials. I feel that what I did was a much larger accomplishment then picketing with PETA extremists outside some factory farm in Nowhere, USA.

 

Edit: @ jgood6195: Accept my apologies for indirectly attacking your character. I'll admit I can become quite passionate on human rights and civil rights issues, very much so.

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It's probably some treehuggers pushing this.

 

Exactly my sentiments. Most extremists on animal rights are counterproductive hypocritical treehuggers. I saw the comments on youtube on these factory farm videos, some of the comments were very offensive to many who would eat shark etc when it is a long-standing Japanese tradition that existed for hundreds of years. How dare they critisize cultural tradition. Once upon a time shark and whale was a necessary staple of the Japanese diet. What do they want? For the locals back then hundreds of years ago to starve? Same with buffalo, a long standing tradition of Native Americans. The comments they give are imflammatory and troll anyone who has differing opinions. Ridiculous.

 

And PETA is opening up a porn site to endorse animal rights at the expense of endorsing sex trafficing which is prevalent in the pornography and prostitution industry? Unbeliavble! Don't they understand that these poor girls are abused in such circumstances!? Their attitudes makes me absolutely outraged really!

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These are some lame-ass excuses to not help animals. 

 

I'll bet that nearly all of us, myself included, don't do crap for human rights. When others do try to expand human rights, the same people here going "let's focus more on human rights" are the same ones blasting those that are actually expanding human rights. Really, no one here would actually dare go the lengths of human rights activists. I don't see any of you being tortured for the sake of promoting human rights.

 

There are cultural traditions that are fair game for criticism. Female genital mutilation, for one. The caste system of India, another. Oh, let's not forget the good and noble tradition of the Hutus, who believe that Tutsis are inferior because they're shorter. Whaling, another, as if today's Japanese are starving to death from a lack of food.

 

Bison were slaughtered by pioneers and sharpshooters who shot them for game and for food. The Native Americans themselves made the bison population unsustainable by driving entire herds off of cliffs. Thanks to people who cared for animals, though, the bison population rebounded.

 

Treehuggers like Theodore Roosevelt helped preserve America's forests.

 

Bison tastes good, but it's a bit dry, by the way.

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I have to agree about the need to limit certain practices like shark fin, whaling etc. Some creatures are endangered, why make them extinct because 'tradition' demands certain types of food? Certainly they can find an alternative that doesn't require endangering a species.

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@realizm, lol, yeah PETA is f'ed up. They endorse degrading women by having them pose nude for animal rights, wtf? Where are the women's rights groups denouncing that practice. I'm all for treating animals humanely, but not exploiting women to get the message out. So Peta should never be taken seriously.

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I have to agree about the need to limit certain practices like shark fin, whaling etc. Some creatures are endangered, why make them extinct because 'tradition' demands certain types of food? Certainly they can find an alternative that doesn't require endangering a species.

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@realizm, lol, yeah PETA is f'ed up. They endorse degrading women by having them pose nude for animal rights, wtf? Where are the women's rights groups denouncing that practice. I'm all for treating animals humanely, but not exploiting women to get the message out. So Peta should never be taken seriously.

 

I admit, seeing some of the videos on the treatment of cows and pigs, I agree wholeheartedly, that the abuse is absolutely excessive. It really is. There are more humane ways to slaughter livestock in a way that causes miminal pain and distress. the techniques is there but yes we do have people that is sadistic. However my point is that animal rights activists take things to the extreme. It's hypocritical that they would not give two shits about the suffering of nour fellow brothers and sisters who are extreme suffering that scar these poor women for LIFE but would resort to homegrown terrorism even, just to protest animal abuse and advocate for animal rights. Ridiculous.

 

As for whaling, I agree, the key is balance. There is an enforcement of the quota allowed for whaling in Japan. Does'nt that suffice? Know what I mean. But banning a long standing tradition as some are saying?  I can never understand what some talk about sometimes. What about the homeless?!!!

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These are some lame-ass excuses to not help animals.

 

I'll bet that nearly all of us, myself included, don't do crap for human rights. When others do try to expand human rights, the same people here going "let's focus more on human rights" are the same ones blasting those that are actually expanding human rights. Really, no one here would actually dare go the lengths of human rights activists. I don't see any of you being tortured for the sake of promoting human rights.

 

There are cultural traditions that are fair game for criticism. Female genital mutilation, for one. The caste system of India, another. Oh, let's not forget the good and noble tradition of the Hutus, who believe that Tutsis are inferior because they're shorter. Whaling, another, as if today's Japanese are starving to death from a lack of food.

(* I'm challenging your viewpoint NOT you as I know you are very educated on human rights issues (I hope) and have a good heart regarding such issues, so hear me out on my critisizm on your post....)

 

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Lame excuses my ass!

 

Of course female genital mutilation is a cultural tradition that must be stopped. Such mutilation of the clitoris and labia from a medical point can kill the woman due to excessive bleeding bring such women into the danger of even dying. It's happened from what I read. Of course the Indian caste system is wrong it's akin to aparthid and the internment of the Japanese Americans in the USA in the 20th century. FYI: I am an Indian/Chinese American, naturally I would be very bothered by that as a person who believe in equality. But what in the world does all of this have to do with whaling which is a long standing tradition? Apples and oranges.

 

People who just are nothing but couch potato activists who wont risk their lives or incest their time for human right causes on this forum? People who advocate for human rights who hypocritally blasting active human rights activists? I know that was directed at me, hence my disconcetment at your post. Next time quote my post instead of being indirect. Just get to the point when constructively critisizing my views.

 

I have quite a record working with Asian American activists for years. The problems with the racial bias attacks with Chinese immigrants in Fort Greene Brooklyn back in 2008 and 2009. I actively protested for the unjustified imprisonment of Anna Guo in college. I was part of a team who would reach out for such victims of harrassment of Chinese immigrants and assault working with the NYPD and community leaders in reaching out to such victims goiung house to house encouraging them, for a year! Like I said before if you would only read my dang posts, I did hours and hours of overnight community service for victime of hurricane Sandy. Tirelessly in working with the dept of Health, DMAT and FEMA. I've worked with Asian American activists for the years I was in college. Hey buddy I did'nt just sit back posting bullshit like a backseat activist. I don'nt just talk the talk, I WALKED THE WALK!

 

Think before you speak man. As a excellent poster that you here are I am shocked that you would post something as ignorant as this, and you talk about lame excuses for human rights. Human and civil rights trumps animal rights!!!

 

End of story. Amen.

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I admit, seeing some of the videos on the treatment of cows and pigs, I agree wholeheartedly, that the abuse is absolutely excessive. It really is. There are more humane ways to slaughter livestock in a way that causes miminal pain and distress. the techniques is there but yes we do have people that is sadistic. However my point is that animal rights activists take things to the extreme. It's hypocritical that they would not give two shits about the suffering of nour fellow brothers and sisters who are extreme suffering that scar these poor women for LIFE but would resort to homegrown terrorism even, just to protest animal abuse and advocate for animal rights. Ridiculous.

 

As for whaling, I agree, the key is balance. There is an enforcement of the quota allowed for whaling in Japan. Does'nt that suffice? Know what I mean. But banning a long standing tradition as some are saying?  I can never understand what some talk about sometimes. What about the homeless?!!!

No arguments about the livestock being kept in cages where they can barely move much less breathe. Nothing justifies terroristic acts.

 

If a creature is endangered, I would call for a suspension of the practice till the numbers are back to safe levels. You can only regulate so many people on top of worrying about the illegal whalers that kills the whales and sell the meat on the black market.

 

For the homeless, well there's only so much you can do for them. If possible donation of money/food/clothes is pretty much all we can do, but you can only give so much.

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No arguments about the livestock being kept in cages where they can barely move much less breathe. Nothing justifies terroristic acts.

 

If a creature is endangered, I would call for a suspension of the practice till the numbers are back to safe levels. You can only regulate so many people on top of worrying about the illegal whalers that kills the whales and sell the meat on the black market.

 

For the homeless, well there's only so much you can do for them. If possible donation of money/food/clothes is pretty much all we can do, but you can only give so much.

 

You're talking about the gestation cages. I'm aware of the fact that some firms such as Smithfield Foods will phase them out. If I'm correct  by 2016. Andrew Cuomo is taking the lead on this. Yes I understand that that issue regarding inhumane treatments of pigs must be addressed. It's a known fact that pigs are smarter then dogs. So that I actually support. Other practices I absolutely disagree with is the treatment of piglets. Chopping off of their teeth and tails. That can lead to rectal prolapse which is a very painful way to die. Then there's the killing of downers just for the sake of profit. There should be a vetinary care program in place but these farm owners are too greedy to implement that despite the calls of animal activists. that I can agree with.

 

On the issues of endangered species I agree with that too. Population control measures must be implemented to protect Earth's creatures. Yes I am in accord with that too.

 

On the homeless, this is a product of a creul society. Unfortunately there is no definite concrete solution to this problem. I believe though that the problem can be mitigated so that more people can be helped. But again nobody cares. Not everyone who are homeless look for it. Living in poverty is a result of the ever widening gap between the wealthy and the poor. There are solutions. If you observe Sweden for example their poverty levels are next to nothing, so it is possible.

 

However my arguement lies in the attitude of animal rights extremists who could not care less about human rights issues such as what I've mentioned before. Most of them have no clue as to what it really means to suffer from poverty or human injustices and the killings and unjustified imprisonments oversees  here in the USA, Africa, Russia and China. They care about animals but obviously they are hypocrites if they dont give a shit about their fellowman, women and child in war torn lands and such. that is the jist of my anger and disgust with some of these activists. This post should clarify my stance on this topic.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I don't see this thread going anywhere.

 

 

 

Well what is your opinion on this topic? I never heard anything from you.  Feel free to contribute. I'm all ears.

 

 

 

 

Errr, this might not end well....

 

 

 

The truth is the truth. Sometimes the truth reveals a harsh reality about human society that is a tough pill to swallow no matter which way we go with this debate.

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You're talking about the gestation cages. I'm aware of the fact that some firms such as Smithfield Foods will phase them out. If I'm correct  by 2016. Andrew Cuomo is taking the lead on this. yes I understand that that issue regarding inhumane treatments of pigs must be addressed. It's a known fact that pigs are smarter then dogs. So that I actually support. Other practices I absolutely disagree with is the treatment of piglets. Chopping off of their teeth and tails. That can lead to rectal prolapse which is a very painful way to die. Then there's the killing of downers just for the sake of profit. There should be a vetinary care program in place but these farm owners are too greedy to implement that despite the calls of animal activists. that I can agree with.

 

On the issues of endangered species I agree with that too. Population control measures must be implemented to protect Earth's creatures. Yes I am in accord with that too.

 

On the homeless, this is a product of a creul society. Unfortunately there is no definite concrete solution to this problem. I believe though that the problem can be mitigated so that more people can be helped. But again nobody cares. Not everyone who are homeless look for it. Living in poverty is a result of the ever widening gap between the wealthy and the poor. There are solutions. if you observe Sweden for example their poverty levels are next to nothing, so it is possible.

 

However my arguement lies in the attitude of animal rights extremists who could not care less about human rights issues such as what I've mentioned before. Most of them have no clue as to what it really means to suffer from poverty or human injustices and the killings and unjustified imprisonments oversees  here in the USA, Africa, Russia and China. They care about animals but obviously they are hypocrites if they dont give a shit about their fellowman, women and child in war torn lands and such. that is the jist of my anger and disgust with some of these activists. This post should clarify my stance on this topic.

 

 

Well what is your opinion on this topic? I never heard anything from you.  Feel free to contribute. I'm all ears.

 

 

The truth is the truth. Sometimes the truth reveals a harsh reality about human society that is a tough pill to swallow no matter which way we go with this debate.

Okay in my opinion, I agree that if anyone is abusing a horse, they should be charged with animal cruelty. It's just that, considering that there are far more important matters to attend to, I don't see how it's any of our business.

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Okay in my opinion, I agree that if anyone is abusing a horse, they should be charged with animal cruelty. It's just that, considering that there are far more important matters to attend to, I don't see how it's any of our business.

 

In agreement.

 

That's why I stated that human rights trumps animal rights. What I meant by that was only in the sense that the animal activists and their supporters should NOT neglect the suffering of people around the globe. That was why I blew a gasket when I read about PETA starting a porn site. Endorsing sex trafficing. I have a good friend of mine I met through my girlfriend who came from Korea recently which makes two women I've met from this industry. 

 

She was raped on set during a porn shoot and now she got addicted to pain killers because of the vaginal and rectal pain from going on set 5 days a week just so she does'nt go homeless. She used to cry in my girl's lap telling us her horror stories regarding this. That was when I was made aware. My lady and myself recently got her into a job placement program to help her escape this insideous trap.

 

So PETA supports this shit?!

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