Raymond Cho Posted October 12, 2014 Share #251 Posted October 12, 2014 Found something on wiki Both my reader and me can't read Japanese, but it is clear too show it needs extra support to the platform edge before we install PSD on a existing platform (that without the design of adding PSD) Some elevated stations in NYC, there are just empty spaces underlaid the platforms....how could those platform hold the weight of the PSD Well, Sutter Avenue On The Is One Example If You Notice The Structure Below The Platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted October 12, 2014 Share #252 Posted October 12, 2014 i think the mta should start thinking the A division should have these as for now till the B division 75 footers is gone except the J, Z, L stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted October 12, 2014 Share #253 Posted October 12, 2014 R62 vs R142 compatibility issues make this difficult on the A division Once the 7 line uses 100% R188s, then they can probably add Automatic Platform Gates to stations such as Times Square, 5 Av and Grand Central. They might be able to use glass platform screen doors for Hudson Yards as well, and it will save them electricity bills in the long run for that particular station. As for the B Division, glass platform screen doors are probably only an option for the new SAS stations. Automatic Platform Gates may be useful at Lex/63, but only on the Q train side since the F train uses a mixture of 60 foot and 75 foot rolling stock. Also, stations served by the G, and any line that uses a mixture of 60 foot and 75 foot rolling stock cannot currently be considered for platform screen doors OR automatic platform gates. On that note, stations served by the C and M trains are not good candidates either due to short trains. Personally, I am a fan of Automatic Platform Gates like seen in the videos much earlier in this thread that are straight and unobtrusive rather than the ones in places like Nagoya where they are clunky and don't look particularly fantastic on the platform. However, platform screen doors should be used in all stations being built with Air Conditioning in order to reduce the electricity bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted October 12, 2014 Share #254 Posted October 12, 2014 Oh but what happens if you have to use an R62 in emergency? Do they doors just not open? Anyway these things will ruin the look of the subway, and the aestetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 12, 2014 Share #255 Posted October 12, 2014 R62 vs R142 compatibility issues make this difficult on the A division Once the 7 line uses 100% R188s, then they can probably add Automatic Platform Gates to stations such as Times Square, 5 Av and Grand Central. They might be able to use glass platform screen doors for Hudson Yards as well, and it will save them electricity bills in the long run for that particular station. As for the B Division, glass platform screen doors are probably only an option for the new SAS stations. Automatic Platform Gates may be useful at Lex/63, but only on the Q train side since the F train uses a mixture of 60 foot and 75 foot rolling stock. Also, stations served by the G, and any line that uses a mixture of 60 foot and 75 foot rolling stock cannot currently be considered for platform screen doors OR automatic platform gates. On that note, stations served by the C and M trains are not good candidates either due to short trains. Personally, I am a fan of Automatic Platform Gates like seen in the videos much earlier in this thread that are straight and unobtrusive rather than the ones in places like Nagoya where they are clunky and don't look particularly fantastic on the platform. However, platform screen doors should be used in all stations being built with Air Conditioning in order to reduce the electricity bill. I believe that Old South Ferry station for example can provide sufficient clearance for R142s. There is actually another reason why that practice has been discontinued, it has to do with a train crew that opened the doors on the entire train when it was not supposed to (More that 5 cars). So it can be done on the A division the problem is really the B division with 60' and 75' cars. The R211s should be 60' cars as off the latest information but that is still subject to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 12, 2014 Share #256 Posted October 12, 2014 On that note, stations served by the C and M trains are not good candidates either due to short trains. This is not actually an issue with PSDs; it's not particularly hard to get only certain sets of doors to open when a train pulls in. You'd just have to indicate where the trains actually stop, which would be a hell of a lot easier to do. Any PSD installation should only be done on 100% NTT lines, because the NTTs all have roughly the same door placement so it's not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted October 12, 2014 Share #257 Posted October 12, 2014 I'll accept platform screen doors if they give us a suitable replacement for peering down the tunnel for the next train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 12, 2014 Share #258 Posted October 12, 2014 I'll accept platform screen doors if they give us a suitable replacement for peering down the tunnel for the next train. totally agree +1 when i can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 13, 2014 Share #259 Posted October 13, 2014 I'll accept platform screen doors if they give us a suitable replacement for peering down the tunnel for the next train. Well, given that PSDs can probably only occur where CBTC exists, that shouldn't be a problem; both the , and the when it opens, have CBTC-compatible countdown clocks that are far more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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