MrTransitMan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #1 Posted December 31, 2012 How are train-sets assigned to each run? How are car pairs linked up to make a train being I never seen one in order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #2 Posted December 31, 2012 How are train-sets assigned to each run? Not sure what you are asking here.... How are car pairs linked up to make a train being I never seen one in order? Again not sure what you are asking here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted December 31, 2012 A train-set is a group of cars to make the train, I was wondering how the trains were assigned to their runs? Then I was asking being cars are grouped as pairs, how are they grouped together to make a train-set or is It random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #4 Posted December 31, 2012 A train-set is a group of cars to make the train, I was wondering how the trains were assigned to their runs? Then I was asking being cars are grouped as pairs, how are they grouped together to make a train-set or is It random? I know what a trainset now there is a car assignment listing.. Here try this site see if that helps... http://www.thejoekorner.com/indexfrm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #5 Posted December 31, 2012 I think he's asking how the trains are 'built' in the yard prior to being dispatched. As for the second question, I still don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #6 Posted December 31, 2012 I think he's asking how the trains are 'built' in the yard prior to being dispatched. As for the second question, I still don't understand. They arent built in the yards whatever is road worthy us used and linked up. There is no other way of saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #7 Posted December 31, 2012 linked up. That's what I was referring to. Sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted December 31, 2012 I apologize let me try and give examples. 1) Trains are all laid up at Jamaica Yard, How are those trains assigned to each run to go out and start their day in service? Train 1 goes out as an E run 101, Train 2 goes out as an F run 101, etc? 2) Cars 4720-4721, 4704-4705, 4732-4733, 4710-4711, 4743-4744 make up a train-set. How are those pairs grouped together to make a train? Being cars are set up as A-B-B-A for example, You never see a train in order: 4700-4701, 4702-4703, 4704-4705, 4706-4707, 4708-4709. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted December 31, 2012 Share #9 Posted December 31, 2012 some of em are in numerical order, the R160 trains in their 5 car sets are linked up in order. The reason the other sets arent is that originally they werent built as permanent 4 or 5 car sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted December 31, 2012 Share #10 Posted December 31, 2012 1. There is a daily put-in sheet which is prepared by the yard dispatcher which tells the put-in crew which track to go to and what their north and south # should be. 2. Train sets are in singles, pairs, 4 or 5 car sets. Multiple sets get put together to make a full length train (2x5, 4x2, 5x2 etc, and in the case of the 7 there's often a 5 car set followed by 6 singles) so each of those sets will have a different sequence of numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 31, 2012 Share #11 Posted December 31, 2012 I've seen a whole trainset in numerical order plenty of times, and there have been times one set was flipped around but still in order (ex: 1391-1395, 1400-1396) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 31, 2012 Share #12 Posted December 31, 2012 I've seen a whole trainset in numerical order plenty of times, and there have been times one set was flipped around but still in order (ex: 1391-1395, 1400-1396) Perhaps whoever linked the trains in question together is a buff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted December 31, 2012 Are there any put-ins that don't take place at a yard, if so is there a sheet for them too? So your saying its the choice of the yard dispatcher? I'm a little lost with the car sets regards to singles, multiples, pairs etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted December 31, 2012 Share #14 Posted December 31, 2012 Are there any put-ins that don't take place at a yard, if so is there a sheet for them too? So your saying its the choice of the yard dispatcher? I'm a little lost with the car sets regards to singles, multiples, pairs etc? I don't think much thought is put into it, in terms of what numbers to match up. It's whatever is easiest to put together. What they mean by car sets is most car types are PERMANENTLY coupled into sets of cars. R-160's come in permanently joined 4 or 5 car sets. Two 4 car sets are then joined together to make a J, L, or M train, which are 8 cars long Two 5 car sets might be joined together to make a 10 car train for the E, F, N, Q... Rarely the R but you get the point. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted December 31, 2012 Ok gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted January 1, 2013 Share #16 Posted January 1, 2013 Yes, some put-ins are stored on the express tracks over night and they are on the sheets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted January 1, 2013 I would really be interested in looking at these sheets is there a name for them, does it change every day or just every pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted January 2, 2013 Share #18 Posted January 2, 2013 Every day is different. I guess he just wants us to tell him how to be a TSS and a TD in five minutes each. And no, none of us TA workers are going to start taking information like that (e.g. City Hall lower put-in sheet for and and uploading it here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 2, 2013 Share #19 Posted January 2, 2013 I would really be interested in looking at these sheets is there a name for them, does it change every day or just every pick? NOT happening sorry RTO eyes only.. Every day is different. I guess he just wants us to tell him how to be a TSS and a TD in five minutes each. And no, none of us TA workers are going to start taking information like that (e.g. City Hall lower put-in sheet for and and uploading it here). Hes living in a dream world if he thinks that oh wait.... Like if any of us here will share that info with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M31clinton Posted January 2, 2013 Share #20 Posted January 2, 2013 2 and 5 lines share cars right? seems like 99% of the time i'm on the 2 train it will have a 5 strip map and vice versa. i don't need the map but it's annoying to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share #21 Posted January 2, 2013 Hey that's not a problem I even figured that, that's why I asked what the sheets were called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted January 2, 2013 Share #22 Posted January 2, 2013 I would really be interested in looking at these sheets is there a name for them, does it change every day or just every pick? Come work for RTO and you'll get to see the put-in sheets every morning. They vary based on which sets are road-worthy and which ones are being held back. It's just a list of the crew #, the track the train is located on, the north and south motor, and the scheduled interval that train will go into service. Yes the 2 and 5 are a shared fleet. An effort is made to return the 5 to Unionport and the 2 to 239 each night but that's not always feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted January 2, 2013 Share #23 Posted January 2, 2013 Does mileage play any role on which sets are used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTransitMan Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share #24 Posted January 2, 2013 Thanks, what's the difference with train register sheets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted January 3, 2013 Share #25 Posted January 3, 2013 Does mileage play any role on which sets are used? No. Its not like there's a odometer sittin on the yard dispatcher desk, any mileage considerations comes from above RTO. Thanks, what's the difference with train register sheets? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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