Numbers never used by the MTA (and most recently used for the 1st time)

[Threxx]

They probably wouldn't use single digits, but they'd probably do 010-099...

[Fresh Pond]

They can't use 10, 90 or 91 anyway since there's 3 buses that are numbered 0010 (phoenix), 0090 (forgot which one) and 0091 (HAI bus)

[GojiMet86]

Have they used single digits for actual revenue buses? I know that Baltimore's MTA has single and double digits.

[realizm]

# 0000.

 

Man I'm on a roll.

[jgood6195]

More like 1-89; 1-99 is 100 buses lol.

1-89 is 89 buses, you mean 000-089, that's 90 buses.

[Metro CSW]

1-190 were used for the General Motors - 1959 TDH-5301 buses....

[waynejay]

Twice...for the preserved GMC New Look 5301 and for a Grumman 870 (both had orders that started with a single-digit bus numbered 1).

 

The 700s were used previously for the same batch of 870s.

 

 

Not sure I'd include Grumman Flxible #100 as it had that number when it was the demo for NYCTA.  Once it became TA property (replacement for new look Flxible destroyed by fire, still under warranty), it was renumbered to #199 and assigned to QV where it was used for express service. 

[waynejay]

By the New Flyer D60s.  I believe the fishbowls of the 70s USED  these too.

 

The GMC fishbowls (TDH-5301) 1001-1130 were 1960 buses.

 

MTA was created in 1953.

No, NYCTA was created in 1953.  The MTA was formed in 1968

[aemoreira81]

MTA was created in 1953.

 

Actually, the NYC Transit Authority (a state agency later incorporated into the MTA) was created that year.

 

4703-4709 when were they last used

 

1987 TMCs and before that, 1968 Flxibles and 1948 Old Looks (the same batch from which 2969 is preserved).

 

 

 

 

Have they used single digits for actual revenue buses? I know that Baltimore's MTA has single and double digits.

 

Twice - in 1959 and again in 1980 (albeit in 1980, it was prefixed by PA).

[Fresh Pond]

Actually, Baltimore (MTA Maryland) uses 5 digit numbers as well. Their new XDE40s (I love them things) are in the 12xxx range and their new DE60LFs (best hybrids I ever rode on) are in the 11xxx range

[RailBus63]

Technically, New Look 100 does not count because that was pre-MTA. (1959).

 

I would include the pre-MTA NYCTA in this exercise - the true lineage of the today's RBO/Dept. of Buses goes back to them.

[User]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="limitednyc" data-cid="636642" data-time="1359062942"><p>

4703-4709 when were they last used</p></blockquote>

On some New Flyer D60s before they were renumbered.

[Far Rock Depot]

the 60's began 1101 later 5350

 

 

Nope, the D60s that ran up until a year ago were 1000-1109.

 

This is a decent question (mad anorak-y though haha) but my guess is just about everything has been used at least once in the past 70 years. Better to go by decades, I think.

Im glad you beat me to it. I read this and went immediately to my copy of the 1998 MTA NYCT Insider's guide and took this pic of page 26:

 

 

as you can see, D60's first batch was numbered 1001- 1069. Also note that the first batch of Orion V's-after being originally numbered 93001 and up- were renumbered sometime thru the delivery to 101-316.

 

this list was as of 1998.

[MHV9218]

Im glad you beat me to it. I read this and went immediately to my copy of the 1998 MTA NYCT Insider's guide and took this pic of page 26:

 

 

 

as you can see, D60's first batch was numbered 1001- 1069. Also note that the first batch of Orion V's-after being originally numbered 93001 and up- were renumbered sometime thru the delivery to 101-316.

 

this list was as of 1998.

 

Lol, I've got the same copy myself, I was looking through that to answer the question! You know if they came out with any issues after that? 

[Far Rock Depot]

They can't use 10, 90 or 91 anyway since there's 3 buses that are numbered 0010 (phoenix), 0090 (forgot which one) and 0091 (HAI bus)

Techincally they can. 0010 and 10 are actually two different fleet numbers. The prefix 00 is now used for specials-like your examples above, and demos-like the LFS MTAB uses, the LFSA with the flush windows and the double decker demo that ran in 2011.

 

Lol, I've got the same copy myself, I was looking through that to answer the question! You know if they came out with any issues after that? 

They did! a 1999 was made but i wasnt able to get a copy of it. The 1998 i got when i was an intern at Livingston.

[MHV9218]

They did! a 1999 was made but i wasnt able to get a copy of it. The 1998 i got when i was an intern at Livingston.

 

Ah, I see. I got that one from a friend of mine out of Hudson (still surprises me when I pass by the pier that the depot's gone), never knew if they kept making them. Funny looking through it now considering only a few hundred out of those 4000 buses are still in service, and the routes are all switched around. Plus, back when an RTS cost $271k, barely buys you the seats on one of these new LFSes!

[Far Rock Depot]

the only thing safe to say is hit the 5-digit range with the exception of demo buses in the 90s and the first batch of Orion V's in 1993. There were two demo's in 92 that used 92xxx. One was a Neoplan Artic tested on the M15 and the other was the MCI demo that lead to the first batch of OTR's 

I was digging thru the crates and found the actual info on this. 

The 1993 Neoplan demo was numbered 81992

A suburban 40' version was numbered 81993

The MCI demo was numbered 81994

 

in other number news:

a 1989 Orion V was numbered 81990

Mercedes-Benz Artic was 0051

Van Hool double decker was 0053

Nova's LFSA demo was 0054

The Prevost demo was 0052

a Nova LFS was 0055

an Xcelsior was 0058

a second LFSA was 0059

 

I know there were more demos, but i never got the numbers other than The Nova RTS Hybrid and the first LFS demo numbered 9900 and 995 respectively. and i believe a New Flyer LF artic was something like "F1997". I cant rememer that one exactly but i remember it was covered with the New Flyer logo all over.

[jgood6195]

Im glad you beat me to it. I read this and went immediately to my copy of the 1998 MTA NYCT Insider's guide and took this pic of page 26:

 

 

as you can see, D60's first batch was numbered 1001- 1069. Also note that the first batch of Orion V's-after being originally numbered 93001 and up- were renumbered sometime thru the delivery to 101-316.

 

this list was as of 1998.

Man, a then brand new 1995 TA Orion V CNG. Lucky!

[Fresh Pond]

Then that Wachovia DesignLine demo was numbered 9900.

 

Come to think of it, no one still never answered my question on why there was no Orion V numbered 9900. Its like that number was skipped completely

[jgood6195]

Then that Wachovia DesignLine demo was numbered 9900.

 

Come to think of it, no one still never answered my question on why there was no Orion V numbered 9900. Its like that number was skipped completely

Because it was. There was also the 1997 Novabus RTS hybrid with #9900.

[Far Rock Depot]

I was digging thru the crates and found the actual info on this. 

The 1993 Neoplan demo was numbered 81992

A suburban 40' version was numbered 81993

The MCI demo was numbered 81994

 

in other number news:

a 1989 Orion V was numbered 81990

Mercedes-Benz Artic was 0051

Van Hool double decker was 0053

Nova's LFSA demo was 0054

The Prevost demo was 0052

a Nova LFS was 0055

an Xcelsior was 0058

a second LFSA was 0059

 

I know there were more demos, but i never got the numbers other than The Nova RTS Hybrid and the first LFS demo numbered 9900 and 995 respectively. and i believe a New Flyer LF artic was something like "F1997". I cant rememer that one exactly but i remember it was covered with the New Flyer logo all over.

 

 

Then that Wachovia DesignLine demo was numbered 9900.

 

Come to think of it, no one still never answered my question on why there was no Orion V numbered 9900. Its like that number was skipped completely

Last two sentences. And Jgood6195 also mentioned it.

And if i remember correctly, the DesignLine's were in the 13xx's

[NewFlyer 230]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Far Rock Depot" data-cid="637697" data-time="1359302973"><p>

Last two sentences. And Jgood6195 also mentioned it.<br />

And if i remember correctly, the DesignLine's were in the 13xx's</p></blockquote>

Yep the Designlines were the 1300's I wonder why the MTA couldn't make the LFSA's start with 1291 after the 2009 and 10 units.

[GojiMet86]

Oooh, a Double-Decker.

[Grand Concourse]

Yep the Designlines were the 1300's I wonder why the MTA couldn't make the LFSA's start with 1291 after the 2009 and 10 units.

Or just stick with the original plan and renumber the O5s to 9700s and continue into the 6000s. They could've reused the 5200-5300s for the Xd60s if they intend on buying more of those and let the NF replace the NF buses. 

[Metro CSW]

Would of been simple, but hey that's the for ya....