mediccjh Posted February 5, 2013 Share #26 Posted February 5, 2013 The cops' (and our) hands are tied. They are not allowed to be ejected from the system for being smelly and stinky; they can only be ejected for breaking the rules, like having their feet up on another seat. And they're good at skirting that, taking up space, but leaving their feet dangling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted February 5, 2013 Share #27 Posted February 5, 2013 The cops' (and our) hands are tied. They are not allowed to be ejected from the system for being smelly and stinky; they can only be ejected for breaking the rules, like having their feet up on another seat. And they're good at skirting that, taking up space, but leaving their feet dangling. Technically, taking up more than one seat is also a violation of the rules. I suppose, this is easier to justify on the R46, 62 and 68's where the seats actually have demarcations between them. Understandable. But personally speaking if a homeless man approahes me on the train saying he is hungry if I happen to have food, I would be more than happy to give it to him. I would'nt give them money however because there are scam artists that pose as homeless people when they are not, taking advantage of an unfortunate social phenomonon. I'm aware panhandling is illegal but that would not be my reasoning behind why I wiuld be relunctant to give them money. It's because I don't appreciate scam artists who pose as such. I see this all the time. I generally don't give on the train because I don't appreciate the "captive audience" thing, also the "we ask you not to give" announcement etc. etc, but in terms of panhandlers in general I find there's fairly reliable easy way to tell scam from not: Look at their shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 5, 2013 Share #28 Posted February 5, 2013 I generally don't give on the train because I don't appreciate the "captive audience" thing, also the "we ask you not to give" announcement etc. etc, but in terms of panhandlers in general I find there's fairly reliable easy way to tell scam from not: Look at their shoes. Oh you mean those who supposedly support homeless relief organizations with their bag packed with sandwiches with their fake IDs? That's definitely a bogus scam. I mean people who I can see are generally, clearly homeless. If I see they are sincere I would give them the rest of my lunch or something. but I will never give them money. That raises red flags, I don't know if I am dealing with a drug addict or not. Got your point on looking at their shoes. People have to watch out for that, there are, as I've mentioned before, scammers who pose as homeless people. I've seen it. Drug addicts and such one that I actually met when I as an intern who said he pulled a scam posing as a homeless person racking $300 dollars a day. Not kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share #29 Posted February 5, 2013 Oh you mean those who supposedly support homeless relief organizations with their bag packed with sandwiches with their fake IDs? That's definitely a bogus scam. I mean people who I can see are generally, clearly homeless. If I see they are sincere I would give them the rest of my lunch or something. but I will never give them money. That raises red flags, I don't know if I am dealing with a drug addict or not. Got your point on looking at their shoes. People have to watch out for that, there are, as I've mentioned before, scammers who pose as homeless people. I've seen it. Drug addicts and such one that I actually met when I as an intern who said he pulled a scam posing as a homeless person racking $300 dollars a day. Not kidding. Would anyone want to support me morally if let's say… I had a day to spend on the subway just to call attention to these scammers while they're working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 5, 2013 Share #30 Posted February 5, 2013 Would anyone want to support me morally if let's say… I had a day to spend on the subway just to call attention to these scammers while they're working? Actually I did that myself one morning because I was snoozing in a seat due to sleep deprivation as I was going to work and a scammer came on the train waking me up with his asshattery. I called him out and told him that I know you are pulling a scam because your ID is not a genuine ID from a non-for ptofit organization plus you are breaking the law. I was really annoyed by that scammer that morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 5, 2013 Share #31 Posted February 5, 2013 How the hell do you bring a shopping cart into the subway, especially at Church Ave? It's one of those small fold up type carts. That said, I only saw her get on around there. I didn't see her get on thru the gates. ie: maybe she got off a different train and waited for that train? :shrugs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 5, 2013 Share #32 Posted February 5, 2013 If only you knew what I had to go through on the N/B into the Bronx during this evening's commute, by 149th St/Grand Concourse @ 5:00PM it was absolutely so packed that nobody on the platform could even get on. To the cussing C/R manning R142 car 7171 to Woodlawn, if you ever see this post: I feel your pain. Damn schoolkids! Yeah it was bad even for me! lol what were they doing?blocking the doors or worseplaying a game of chicken on the tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 6, 2013 Share #33 Posted February 6, 2013 Blocking doors and just being plain loud and rowdy. On a rush hour train at that. I heard the C/R cussing in his cab he was so annoyed by the unruly behavior and so was I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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