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Where/What is A School Car?

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I have googled it and came across nothing about about a school car. Ive seen Pics With School Cars as Redbirds , R160's , R46's ,But i have no idea what it is and when this question is answered can anyone tell me where are any school cars,Workcars,Fire/NYPD Cars , Training Cars ETC. Thank you very much for your help.

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There are no cars on the rolling stock that are labeled school cars. School Cars can be any set of cars out of any yard. The term "school cars" are applied to train cars that are taken out of service to train up and coming train operators.

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I have googled it and came across nothing about about a school car. Ive seen Pics With School Cars as Redbirds , R160's , R46's ,But i have no idea what it is and when this question is answered can anyone tell me where are any school cars,Workcars,Fire/NYPD Cars , Training Cars ETC. Thank you very much for your help.

A school car is a train used to train new conductors and train operators, and they're EVERYWHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE.

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There are no cars on the rolling stock that are labeled school cars. School Cars can be any set of cars out of any yard. The term "school cars" are applied to train cars that are taken out of service to train up and coming train operators.

So what purpose did the slants at Rock Park serve?

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School car can be the retired cars used as classrooms in the yard, and it's also the revenue train used by a class for training (all current in service models are used, because employees have to be trained on all of them).

The yard classroom can be a trailer, as it is at Jamaica yard.

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Usually when you see a train signed up as "Not In Service" and about 5 people in the front car / cab, thats a school car. The school car variations can get interesting too, like that 8-car set of R42 I saw at Queens Plaza, and recently an 8-car set of R32 passing going NB thru the 63 st connector (between Queens Plz and 36 st on QBL). 

 

Those school cars can go anywhere, and that gets interesting. Like that R42 I saw at Queens Plaza also went up Brighton Exp and 6th Avenue, and that R32 could have gone anywhere.

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School car is what they call their training for conductors and motormen. It was conducted in a retired train before the started using trailers. If you see a class of new trainees in moving rolling stock then their just training for the road.

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Oh... I thought it had to do with school. How come I see kids going into school cars with book bags in CIY?

 

That's how we carry all the crap we're given. Tools and books, books and tools. 

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That's how we carry all the crap we're given. Tools and books, books and tools. 

 

At least when yer done with Schoolcar you can leave the Books Home! Well except One!

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ive heard rumors,is it true that you recieve an operators manual for each type of subway car that your qualified?

if any current and former students can answer,it would be much appreciated

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ive heard rumors,is it true that you recieve an operators manual for each type of subway car that your qualified?

if any current and former students can answer,it would be much appreciated

 

You get books. Thick books.

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ive heard rumors,is it true that you recieve an operators manual for each type of subway car that your qualified?

if any current and former students can answer,it would be much appreciated

I remember getting books on the R142 and R 142A cars but I don't remember getting any specific literature from the R62/62A and prior cars. In  the IRT cars were basically SMEE equipment and if you knew one you knew them all. We did get a little brown book called "R10 and up " which basically covered everything as far as breakdowns were concerned. No one carried that around after school car IIRC but the other little brown book, the rule book, was supposed to be carried at all times. That was replaced by a little blue book of rules and, I think, a train operator's handbook, and finally we were issued large rule books which were supposed to be carried at all times. IDK which genius was responsible for that idea. That's why you see train crews with backpacks these days. When I started out we carried a little case about the size of a shaving kit which held everything a M/M or C/R would need. Perhaps a present RTO employee can give updated info. BTW I didn't forget the "gas" mask which is now issued. IMO if you found you needed to put it on it was already to late for it to be useful to you. I planned to throw it into the midst of panicking passengers while I made my escape in the opposite direction, an opinion held by many of my fellow employees. Carry on.

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I remember getting books on the R142 and R 142A cars but I don't remember getting any specific literature from the R62/62A and prior cars. In  the IRT cars were basically SMEE equipment and if you knew one you knew them all. , the R10 We did get a little brown book called "R10 and up " which basically covered everything as far as breakdowns were concerned. No one carried that around after school car IIRC but the other little brown book, the rule book, was supposed to be carried at all times. That was replaced by a little blue book of rules and, I think, a train operator's handbook, and finally we were issued large rule books which were supposed to be carried at all times. IDK which genius was for that idea. That's why you see train crews with backpacks these days. When I started out we carried a little case about the size of a shaving kit which held everything a M/M or C/R would need. Perhaps a present RTO employee can give updated info. BTW I didn't forget the "gas" mask which is now issued. IMO if you found you needed to put it on it was already to late for it to be useful to you. I planned to throw it into the midst of panicking passengers while I made my escape in the opposite direction, an opinion held by many of my fellow employees. Carry on. 

 

I dont get why you need a rule book of that size and need to always have it. My rule book for PATH is in my work bag that stays in my locker or the crew room when im on the train. The only gear I carry is my vest, flashlight, radio, and two sets of keys.

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Well when I was in schoolcar, I got one book which was a manual for the 142/143/160, and another textbook which covered the older equipment, among many other things. Aside from the rule book, we also have the BLUE book, which is a pocket-sized guide which has the scripts for manual announcements which is also mandatory equipment to be carried at all times, and a pocket-sized "route guide" book, which has a list of things like the home ball line ups, run times, the J/Z skip stop patterns, deadhead chart, phone #'s, etc. I have an entire shelf full of other books/pamplets we were given, but most of those I haven't looked at since I was in school car. The only other one I carry is the list of codes for the 46 Luminators....not that I ever work the 46's, but you never know when one might show up....and a set of bus maps for the 4 boroughs.

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I remember getting books on the R142 and R 142A cars but I don't remember getting any specific literature from the R62/62A and prior cars. In  the IRT cars were basically SMEE equipment and if you knew one you knew them all. We did get a little brown book called "R10 and up " which basically covered everything as far as breakdowns were concerned. No one carried that around after school car IIRC but the other little brown book, the rule book, was supposed to be carried at all times. That was replaced by a little blue book of rules and, I think, a train operator's handbook, and finally we were issued large rule books which were supposed to be carried at all times. IDK which genius was responsible for that idea. That's why you see train crews with backpacks these days. When I started out we carried a little case about the size of a shaving kit which held everything a M/M or C/R would need. Perhaps a present RTO employee can give updated info. BTW I didn't forget the "gas" mask which is now issued. IMO if you found you needed to put it on it was already to late for it to be useful to you. I planned to throw it into the midst of panicking passengers while I made my escape in the opposite direction, an opinion held by many of my fellow employees. Carry on.

The gask mask they issue us and make us carry everyday when at work is a huge joke. All that mask is, is a reason for families not to sue the MTA in case "something" were to go down. Also its another reason to get in trouble by supervision if its not carried with you. We were trained in school car how to put it on but NEVER taught exactly when it needs to be used, what would be in the air that we make the decision its mask time. A huge joke that mask is, and its a 7lb  size of a gallon of milk. total B.S in my eyes.

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And they've declared earlier ones defective, and then kept giving us bigger and bigger/heavier ones (now, they have a metal canister inside the pouch). It's most of the bulk of what we're carrying. They should make it optional, (because it's true you would never have time to undo the packaging and put it on if you should suddnly see people near you dropping), or at least find some way to keep them in the operating cabs.

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I actually got Books on the R62's R142's R143's and the R160's...

 

The Blue hard cover Binder Ones..

 

Most Interesting read indeed...

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