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Speaking of quizzes I did my first signal quizz yesterday ahnd got 2 out of 15 wrong. I'm not happy with that. Working on my door operation and door malfunctions skills. I'm determined to do well down here.

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Conductors will have:

-Quizzes

-A yard practical (door operations, troubleshooting a door problem, isolating a car)

-A midterm exam

-A final exam

-A road practical (door operations with simulated station stops on an empty train, troubleshooting a "double zone")

 

Quizzes and exams are 80%+ to pass.

Practicals are pass/fail.

 

thank you for the info 

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Conductors will have:

-Quizzes

-A yard practical (door operations, troubleshooting a door problem, isolating a car)

-A midterm exam

-A final exam

-A road practical (door operations with simulated station stops on an empty train, troubleshooting a "double zone")

 

Quizzes and exams are 80%+ to pass.

Practicals are pass/fail.

 

Very good info thanks!

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Very good info thanks!

In between yard practical there is posting.

Where you go in live service wirh a seasoned conductor who will help you to further hone your skills.

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Conductors will have:

-Quizzes

-A yard practical (door operations, troubleshooting a door problem, isolating a car)

-A midterm exam

-A final exam

-A road practical (door operations with simulated station stops on an empty train, troubleshooting a "double zone")

 

Quizzes and exams are 80%+ to pass.

Practicals are pass/fail.

 

are any of the c/r tests like the t/o test where you get 1 wrong YOUR DONE? also is it possible where c/r's are trained for both divisions if they are extras where such as they could work in the b division on one day  but are needed in the A division the next day?

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There are no conductor tests/quizzes which are 1 wrong and done.  You are only qualified to work in one division only.

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Im just randomly asking for the sake of curiosity but what if you wanted to switch divisions? are you told you cant or do you have to be put through training again? 

 

just wondering

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You can switch when you are able to pick in your division and the other division.  You will have about 2/3 weeks training to get qualified in the other division.

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Just finished school car! Released to crew office.

Dam how long was it? seems like you got called just a few weeks ago.

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Congrats Postal!  I (train operator who started on the same date) just had my first yard practical.

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are any of the c/r tests like the t/o test where you get 1 wrong YOUR DONE? also is it possible where c/r's are trained for both divisions if they are extras where such as they could work in the b division on one day  but are needed in the A division the next day?

 

Only the practicals can be one and done since they are pass/fail. Quizzes/midterm/final are all 80%+ to pass.

 

Rest assured, the practicals are not hard. But there are certain absolute no-nos that will get you failed on the spot during your practical:

-Failure to make proper announcements (IE forgetting to say "stand clear of the closing doors please" or press door warning)

-Failure to point at the conductor's board

-Attempting to open doors when the train has overrun the station, or stopped short of the mark

-Putting the vapor key into the MDC before the train has stopped

-Failure to immediately remove the vapor key from the MDC upon passing indication to the train operator

-Failure to close down properly (ie closing the front before the rear, or closing both zones at the same time)

-Failure to observe the platform

-IRT PEOPLE: Opening the entire train at a station where only the front section is to be opened (IE 145th St. Lenox Ave.)

-Failure to reopen timely when attempting to close down and a guard light remains lit, or indication is not received.

 

There are also things that will get your practical terminated early, and you will be sent to the back of the line so you have one final chance to review and correct your mistakes before attempting the practical one last time. If you fail to pass the practical then, you are done.

-Failing to overcome a door problem/Improper cutout procedure

-Any indication of uncertainty when answering the superintendent's questions about procedure

-Trying to troubleshoot a door problem with the bad section open

-Failure to climb on and off the train safely and properly

 

Like I said, the practicals aren't bad. Remember MTA wants you to pass. Once you get through the pre-employment, they WANT you to succeed...they don't want to waste money training you only so that you will flunk out at the end, so they are there to HELP you, and the only ones who fail are the ones who #1-don't put in the time or effort, #2-never learn the material adequately due to being confused, etc...whatever, it's not that hard, and if they feel it is they shouldn't be down here, or #3-think they have all the answers and attempt to "improve" on the schoolcar way during their testing periods and therefore knowingly do things wrong...rest assured this doesn't go over well.

 

Know the rules, know the procedures, and you should have no problem. Try to learn the trains in your division, and what the various components in them are used for, and how they interact. If you know your job, you can go far down here. If you don't, it catches up with you sooner or later.

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Well today was day one for a large group of conductors, as stated earlier in this forum it was a lot of information about pension,401k and other benefits...

 

Thanks to the guys that post in this forum , all the information its been really helpful throughout the process ...

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Only the practicals can be one and done since they are pass/fail. Quizzes/midterm/final are all 80%+ to pass.

 

Rest assured, the practicals are not hard. But there are certain absolute no-nos that will get you failed on the spot during your practical:

-Failure to make proper announcements (IE forgetting to say "stand clear of the closing doors please" or press door warning)

-Failure to point at the conductor's board

-Attempting to open doors when the train has overrun the station, or stopped short of the mark

-Putting the vapor key into the MDC before the train has stopped

-Failure to immediately remove the vapor key from the MDC upon passing indication to the train operator

-Failure to close down properly (ie closing the front before the rear, or closing both zones at the same time)

-Failure to observe the platform

-IRT PEOPLE: Opening the entire train at a station where only the front section is to be opened (IE 145th St. Lenox Ave.)

-Failure to reopen timely when attempting to close down and a guard light remains lit, or indication is not received.

 

There are also things that will get your practical terminated early, and you will be sent to the back of the line so you have one final chance to review and correct your mistakes before attempting the practical one last time. If you fail to pass the practical then, you are done.

-Failing to overcome a door problem/Improper cutout procedure

-Any indication of uncertainty when answering the superintendent's questions about procedure

-Trying to troubleshoot a door problem with the bad section open

-Failure to climb on and off the train safely and properly

 

Like I said, the practicals aren't bad. Remember MTA wants you to pass. Once you get through the pre-employment, they WANT you to succeed...they don't want to waste money training you only so that you will flunk out at the end, so they are there to HELP you, and the only ones who fail are the ones who #1-don't put in the time or effort, #2-never learn the material adequately due to being confused, etc...whatever, it's not that hard, and if they feel it is they shouldn't be down here, or #3-think they have all the answers and attempt to "improve" on the schoolcar way during their testing periods and therefore knowingly do things wrong...rest assured this doesn't go over well.

 

Know the rules, know the procedures, and you should have no problem. Try to learn the trains in your division, and what the various components in them are used for, and how they interact. If you know your job, you can go far down here. If you don't, it catches up with you sooner or later.

 

 

 

Also at South Ferry! If your road practical is on the #1 train. Only the first 5 cars of the train open there.

And 14th street on the Lexington avenue line you must not open the doors until the gap fillers are extended fully and you get numerical indication (10). This applies to South Ferry also the indication is 5.

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yes and one more thing, how do I get in contact with Harry? I want to get an avatar.......

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yes and one more thing, how do I get in contact with Harry? I want to get an avatar.......

 

Send him a PM...

 

 

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