Cait Sith Posted March 27, 2014 Share #801 Posted March 27, 2014 Q8 has the new BusTime schedules at the poles. Q10, Q24 and Q41 doesn't have them yet which surprises me because I would've thought the Q10 would've been one of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted March 27, 2014 Share #802 Posted March 27, 2014 The Bustime Mobile site needs to be improved. It only tells you which stop the buses in service are at but not when the next bus is scheduled to leave the terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 27, 2014 Share #803 Posted March 27, 2014 The EXP buses (QM1-QM20) in Manhattan does not have the new signage and schedules. There are new signage and schedules in some parts of Queens along those lines. I would expect all the routes and stops to get the new schedules by the Spring Pick, which is very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 28, 2014 Share #804 Posted March 28, 2014 The Bustime Mobile site needs to be improved. It only tells you which stop the buses in service are at but not when the next bus is scheduled to leave the terminal.Sometimes it does. It'll say something like: "At terminal, scheduled to depart at" whatever time the bus is scheduled to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted March 28, 2014 Share #805 Posted March 28, 2014 Where do you come up 95%? What new bus stop signs? He's talking about the lollipop style bus stops. The old style of sheet metal signboards without destination information or stop name is still fairly prevalent in Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted March 28, 2014 Share #806 Posted March 28, 2014 He's talking about the lollipop style bus stops. The old style of sheet metal signboards without destination information or stop name is still fairly prevalent in Queens. Still see a couple of them between 59th and 63rd on Broadway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK Depot Posted March 30, 2014 Share #807 Posted March 30, 2014 I helped a woman last night who was waiting on the Q3... I felt bad for her because it was pouring rain... So I pulled up the schedule to see how long she had to wait and told her... She thanked me as if I was a saint sent from heaven... All I did was tell her she had a 20min wait but he might come earlier which he did.. 3mins early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 30, 2014 Share #808 Posted March 30, 2014 Finally got to use BusTime with the BM's yesterday. Used the BM3... We skipped the Downtown portion (Downtown Loop) since everyone wanted Midtown... The weird thing was that the bus disappeared from BusTime as we were taking the "Super Express" routing, which is odd because that must be on the map during the week. Once we came to the portion where the normal routing is, the bus re-appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 31, 2014 Share #809 Posted March 31, 2014 Finally got to use BusTime with the BM's yesterday. Used the BM3... We skipped the Downtown portion (Downtown Loop) since everyone wanted Midtown... The weird thing was that the bus disappeared from BusTime as we were taking the "Super Express" routing, which is odd because that must be on the map during the week. Once we came to the portion where the normal routing is, the bus re-appeared. Technically they went off-route. Even with the app I used (MTA Tracker), if the bus is on a detour or something of that nature, the bus would disappear from the map, then reappear when it gets back on route. I was on the BxM1 a few nights ago and I was tracking myself for the shits and giggles. Instead of going down Dyckman St to the Harlem River Drive, we used 204 St to 10 Av to the HRD and we disappeared off the map then came back on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 31, 2014 Share #810 Posted March 31, 2014 Technically they went off-route. Even with the app I used (MTA Tracker), if the bus is on a detour or something of that nature, the bus would disappear from the map, then reappear when it gets back on route. I was on the BxM1 a few nights ago and I was tracking myself for the shits and giggles. Instead of going down Dyckman St to the Harlem River Drive, we used 204 St to 10 Av to the HRD and we disappeared off the map then came back on it This is different though... The routing we took is the same routing that a BM3 Super Express would take during the week and I would expect those buses to show on BusTime. What occurred on the BxM1 you took is normal because B/O's are allowed to use whatever routing once they've made all of the pick-ups. That's been in place long before BusTime. When BusTime came into play some B/O's were following the routing to a tee and I wrote in and made a stink about it because it makes no sense for us to sit in traffic on the Deegan if the Harlem River Drive is not backed up for the sake of showing on BusTime since we're operating on the non pick-up segment of the route. Let me give you another scenario of how I believe BusTime works. We've taken shortcuts on the BxM2 where we had no drop-offs on the West Side (72nd & Columbus, 63rd & Broadway), so we take 5th down to Central Park South instead of using the Transverse, and then Central Park South over to 7th to continue Southbound. When we come along Central Park South past 6th Avenue, the bus will show up as being Northbound en route to Riverdale-263 st even though it's really headed Southbound (via Kappock, to West Midtown). I know because I've tracked the bus for the hell of it, so basically the bus should show up as long as it's somewhere along the actual route. Maybe the Super Express BM3's don't show on BusTime along that segment, but I'll check it out one day when I have some time to burn. I've been using BusTime since it started on Staten Island, and anything I can learn about it I want to know if it will improve my commute and how the technology works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted March 31, 2014 Share #811 Posted March 31, 2014 Technically they went off-route. Even with the app I used (MTA Tracker), if the bus is on a detour or something of that nature, the bus would disappear from the map, then reappear when it gets back on route. I was on the BxM1 a few nights ago and I was tracking myself for the shits and giggles. Instead of going down Dyckman St to the Harlem River Drive, we used 204 St to 10 Av to the HRD and we disappeared off the map then came back on it Technically they went off-route. Even with the app I used (MTA Tracker), if the bus is on a detour or something of that nature, the bus would disappear from the map, then reappear when it gets back on route. I was on the BxM1 a few nights ago and I was tracking myself for the shits and giggles. Instead of going down Dyckman St to the Harlem River Drive, we used 204 St to 10 Av to the HRD and we disappeared off the map then came back on it There's so many different routings, the BxM1 needs it's own app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 31, 2014 Share #812 Posted March 31, 2014 There's so many different routings, the BxM1 needs it's own app. No, there's only three different routings. BxM1 Super Express, via Riverdale Av, via Major Deegan, via Lex (serves North Riverdale & Riverdale only & bypasses Spuyten Duyvil) BxM1 via Kappock St, via Major Deegan, via Lex (bypasses Inwood) BxM1 via Inwood, via Harlem River Drive, via Lex (makes all stops & runs via the Harlem River Drive) Any other routing is due to traffic or preferences by the B/O to not be stuck in traffic and since the Major Deegan backs up a lot, there's a tendency to go whichever way will be quicker. If you live in Riverdale, none of this is confusing. I use the Super Express which shaves off a good 10 - 15 minutes. Those in Spuyten Duyvil also get a small savings if they don't have to stop in Inwood, provided that the Deegan isn't slammed. There's enough ridership in Central Riverdale (Downtown Riverdale from 236th to Riverdale/Fieldston 239th to 246th) alone to fill up half of the Super Expresses and Spuyten Duyvil along Kappock has high usage as well, hence the variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted March 31, 2014 Share #813 Posted March 31, 2014 No, there's only three different routings. BxM1 Super Express, via Riverdale Av, via Major Deegan, via Lex (serves North Riverdale & Riverdale only & bypasses Spuyten Duyvil) BxM1 via Kappock St, via Major Deegan, via Lex (bypasses Inwood) BxM1 via Inwood, via Harlem River Drive, via Lex (makes all stops & runs via the Harlem River Drive) Any other routing is due to traffic or preferences by the B/O to not be stuck in traffic and since the Major Deegan backs up a lot, there's a tendency to go whichever way will be quicker. If you live in Riverdale, none of this is confusing. I use the Super Express which shaves off a good 10 - 15 minutes. Those in Spuyten Duyvil also get a small savings if they don't have to stop in Inwood, provided that the Deegan isn't slammed. There's enough ridership in Central Riverdale (Downtown Riverdale from 236th to Riverdale/Fieldston 239th to 246th) alone to fill up half of the Super Expresses and Spuyten Duyvil along Kappock has high usage as well, hence the variants. I always get backed up on Lexington. That's where variants should come in and yes I know that's the route. I ride it almost every day. I've gone down 2nd Avenue to 96th, 10th Avenue to 202nd Street, turned at 116th, 106th and 79th, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 31, 2014 Share #814 Posted March 31, 2014 I always get backed up on Lexington. That's where variants should come in and yes I know that's the route. I ride it almost every day. I've gone down 2nd Avenue to 96th, 10th Avenue to 202nd Street, turned at 116th, 106th and 79th, etc. Well the variants along Lexington were taken away due to the BxM18 making stops in Midtown below 56th street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 1, 2014 Share #815 Posted April 1, 2014 This is different though... The routing we took is the same routing that a BM3 Super Express would take during the week and I would expect those buses to show on BusTime. What occurred on the BxM1 you took is normal because B/O's are allowed to use whatever routing once they've made all of the pick-ups. That's been in place long before BusTime. When BusTime came into play some B/O's were following the routing to a tee and I wrote in and made a stink about it because it makes no sense for us to sit in traffic on the Deegan if the Harlem River Drive is not backed up for the sake of showing on BusTime since we're operating on the non pick-up segment of the route. Let me give you another scenario of how I believe BusTime works. We've taken shortcuts on the BxM2 where we had no drop-offs on the West Side (72nd & Columbus, 63rd & Broadway), so we take 5th down to Central Park South instead of using the Transverse, and then Central Park South over to 7th to continue Southbound. When we come along Central Park South past 6th Avenue, the bus will show up as being Northbound en route to Riverdale-263 st even though it's really headed Southbound (via Kappock, to West Midtown). I know because I've tracked the bus for the hell of it, so basically the bus should show up as long as it's somewhere along the actual route. Maybe the Super Express BM3's don't show on BusTime along that segment, but I'll check it out one day when I have some time to burn. I've been using BusTime since it started on Staten Island, and anything I can learn about it I want to know if it will improve my commute and how the technology works. It may be the route that it takes during the week but not on weekends...it's still considered off route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted April 1, 2014 Share #816 Posted April 1, 2014 It may be the route that it takes during the week but not on weekends...it's still considered off route That's the case but I'd be surprised if the system was that advanced to know that it was not a Super Express run but rather a regular run... I wonder if it can differentiate what bus is what by the coding in the destination sign? If that was the case I didn't get why it automatically assumed that the Southbound BxM2 was a Northbound bus just because of the shortcut it took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 1, 2014 Share #817 Posted April 1, 2014 That's the case but I'd be surprised if the system was that advanced to know that it was not a Super Express run but rather a regular run... I wonder if it can differentiate what bus is what by the coding in the destination sign? If that was the case I didn't get why it automatically assumed that the Southbound BxM2 was a Northbound bus just because of the shortcut it took. It probably can...or just from the farebox when the driver programs the route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted April 3, 2014 Share #818 Posted April 3, 2014 Transit times is a great app for this.If you type in an intersection then click on the bus you want it will show you the time it was supposed to get there.so you can determine how late or early the bus actually is.Earlier in Manhattan I saw buses that were 20 min late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted April 3, 2014 Share #819 Posted April 3, 2014 Transit times is a great app for this.If you type in an intersection then click on the bus you want it will show you the time it was supposed to get there.so you can determine how late or early the bus actually is.Earlier in Manhattan I saw buses that were 20 min late! The Roadify App for iPhone does that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted April 3, 2014 Share #820 Posted April 3, 2014 True it does.they both have there advantages.Roadify it shows you more than one bus that late.But transit times shows the buses moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted April 3, 2014 Share #821 Posted April 3, 2014 Sometimes I take the M5 up 6th Ave over the subway if I'm going a short distance and I know it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 4, 2014 Share #822 Posted April 4, 2014 Transit times is a great app for this.If you type in an intersection then click on the bus you want it will show you the time it was supposed to get there.so you can determine how late or early the bus actually is.Earlier in Manhattan I saw buses that were 20 min late! Is that on Android phones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted April 6, 2014 Share #823 Posted April 6, 2014 Is that on Android phones?It's on both Android and Apple.Tonight however both Roadify and transit times aren't showing the differences in the real-time and the schedules.Maybe has something to do with the schedule changes taking place today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted April 7, 2014 Share #824 Posted April 7, 2014 Roadify is working again today.Some departures are not being shown.For example the next B12 is 14 min away from Albany and East New York but there is a scheduled one in 4 min.Is that because it's not showing up in bustime, or that departure never left for whatever reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V 9441 Posted April 10, 2014 Share #825 Posted April 10, 2014 1014 on M79 now according to bustime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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