mark1447 Posted August 22, 2008 Share #101 Posted August 22, 2008 Id put that 188 fleet a side for the and focus on the 46, since the 44/44SIRs are next now its time to deal with 46, build around the mid 70s another bulls**t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted August 22, 2008 Share #102 Posted August 22, 2008 Id put that 188 fleet a side for the and focus on the 46, since the 44/44SIRs are next now its time to deal with 46, build around the mid 70s another bulls**t You're talking about two very different divisions though. R46 has nothing to do with IRT. It would be mighty stupid of the MTA to get rid R62/As so early in their lives, which is why I doubt they would retire them at the age of like 28 or 30. Hell, the MTA should wait to put CBTC on the til its time for the R62/As to retire, unless things are really that BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCboy Posted August 30, 2008 Share #103 Posted August 30, 2008 well heres my i idea,once the R188's come in,keep 'em running with the the R62A for an extra 4-5 years,so then there will be a mix on the line,after 5 years retire SOME R62As so incase there a breakage in the line they still got some R62A's as a back up,then once they figure out the problem retire all the R62As on the line,and do a final run with a R62A on the line and then CBTC is born on the line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted August 30, 2008 Share #104 Posted August 30, 2008 well heres my i idea,once the R188's come in,keep 'em running with the the R62A for an extra 4-5 years,so then there will be a mix on the line,after 5 years retire SOME R62As so incase there a breakage in the line they still got some R62A's as a back up,then once they figure out the problem retire all the R62As on the line,and do a final run with a R62A on the line and then CBTC is born on the line! That's what they do with all new equipment, introduce it gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCboy Posted August 30, 2008 Share #105 Posted August 30, 2008 they do that for about 2-3 months,then they put it into original service,but instead they just keep it running with the R62A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted August 30, 2008 Share #106 Posted August 30, 2008 If the R188 ever comes the all the R62A should move to all the ,,and some on the and Grand central shuttle and the R62 can retire. But the R188 might come around 2020's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted August 30, 2008 Share #107 Posted August 30, 2008 If the R188 ever comes the all the R62A should move to all the ,,and some on the and Grand central shuttle and the R62 can retire. But the R188 might come around 2020's. The (4)'s are not getting the R-188's they already have the R-142's and R-142S's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted August 30, 2008 Share #108 Posted August 30, 2008 The (4)'s are not getting the R-188's they already have the R-142's and R-142S's He's talking about the R62A... but I don't see them going back to the , ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 30, 2008 Share #109 Posted August 30, 2008 The (4)'s are not getting the R-188's they already have the R-142's and R-142S'sHomeboy you misread it, he said more R62s should get transferred to the and trains when the R188 comes for the . EDIT: 7LineFan just beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted August 30, 2008 Share #110 Posted August 30, 2008 Homeboy you misread it, he said more R62s should get transferred to the and trains when the R188 comes for the . EDIT: 7LineFan just beat me to it. I read it correctly....I just worded my comment wrong.....if and/or when the R-188's go on the ....the R-62A's will not get transferred to the (4)'s that don't make make sense since the (4)'s got NTT's and a few R-62's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted August 30, 2008 Share #111 Posted August 30, 2008 I read it correctly....I just worded my comment wrong.....if and/or when the R-188's go on the ....the R-62A's will not get transferred to the (4)'s that don't make make sense since the (4)'s got NTT's and a few R-62's! The (4)'s are not getting the R-188's they already have the R-142's and R-142S's But it's right anyhow. The won't be getting new cars for a while, unless a train of R188s replaces the train of R62s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 31, 2008 Share #112 Posted August 31, 2008 What they might do with the extra cars, which would make a lot of sense, is use the 62's to replace all the remaining old work cars, especially the carbon steel stuff. So all the redbirds that recently entered work service; whichever other older cars; the 40's currently in B Div. garbage train service. Then they could get rid of stuff like the continuous welded rail trains, in which they took stuff like R15-22's and cut out the bottoms of the end walls, so that the rails could run from car to car. With the 62's, the bonnets are fiberglass, so no cutting of metal carbodies would be needed. And they're already in five car sets. No more rusting and repainting of ANYTHING needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted August 31, 2008 Share #113 Posted August 31, 2008 so theyre already retiring R62's? they havent even been used that long, ohh the pain!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted August 31, 2008 Share #114 Posted August 31, 2008 so theyre already retiring R62's? they havent even been used that long, ohh the pain!!! No, they are not retiring any IRT equipment as of now. Wait 15-20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCboy Posted September 1, 2008 Share #115 Posted September 1, 2008 just wait until late 2011,then we will see if we really start felling the pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted September 2, 2008 Share #116 Posted September 2, 2008 I can't see how the could get away with a premature scrapping of perfectly good cars simply on the grounds that they're not new-tech. Especially with a pending fare-hike and constant complaints of not enough money for pretty much anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted September 2, 2008 Share #117 Posted September 2, 2008 I can't see how the could get away with a premature scrapping of perfectly good cars simply on the grounds that they're not new-tech. Especially with a pending fare-hike and constant complaints of not enough money for pretty much anything. We dunno what the MTA plans to do with the R62As yet. Lord knows when those R188s come in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted September 4, 2008 Share #118 Posted September 4, 2008 We dunno what the MTA plans to do with the R62As yet. Lord knows when those R188s come in anyway. Especially when the General Supt. of the Lex lines ,, and the CTO(acting) know nothing about the R 188 cars. Word is the 62's and 62A's aren't going anywhere any time soon. The general consensus in the Car Equipment Dept. was the same when I asked around. So far no one " in the know" in the A Division has heard anything about new cars for the A division. The buzz here is about cutting back and making do with what's already in the pipeline or on the rails today in both divisions. Can't say what'll happen in 10 years but right now forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted September 4, 2008 Share #119 Posted September 4, 2008 Hum. A lot to wait & see. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted October 3, 2008 Share #120 Posted October 3, 2008 What about the 1 and 3? When will they get new train technology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted October 3, 2008 Share #121 Posted October 3, 2008 What about the 1 and 3? When will they get new train technology? In the near future, but we have to wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted October 3, 2008 Share #122 Posted October 3, 2008 all i know is, dont expect them anytime before 2014. and i hears a while ago 188s were gonns be a sixth car of every other set of 142 5 car sets that will be assigned to the 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCboy Posted October 26, 2008 Share #123 Posted October 26, 2008 all i know is, dont expect them anytime before 2014. and i hears a while ago 188s were gonns be a sixth car of every other set of 142 5 car sets that will be assigned to the 7. that'll be dumb,the R142A on the line? and with like only 1 new IRT subway cars on each R142A set? i really think that line should get newer IRT cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted October 26, 2008 Share #124 Posted October 26, 2008 all i know is, dont expect them anytime before 2014. and i hears a while ago 188s were gonns be a sixth car of every other set of 142 5 car sets that will be assigned to the 7. Heck knows, they might be the R39s of the 21st Century. All talk and no build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted October 26, 2008 Share #125 Posted October 26, 2008 that'll be dumb,the R142A on the line? and with like only 1 new IRT subway cars on each R142A set? i really think that line should get newer IRT cars Why should they order an entire new fleet of IRT cars when there are enough cars between the existing fleets plus the additional which will come from these extra B-cars??? That would involve prematurely scrapping R-62/As and wasting money for no reason. If these R-188s are eventually built, the will then have new tech trains which will hopefully ease confusion with sign-flexibility and announcements. And the added benefit of freeing up those R-62As (some with RFWs) for use on the Lex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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