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Hudson River Amtrak plans get $185M boost from feds

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A plan to build two new Amtrak tunnels underneath the Hudson River to Manhattan has received an $185 million boost, officials said Thursday. The Federal Transit Administration funds will be used to do preliminary construction work beneath the MTA's rail yard west of Penn Station, between 10th and 11th Aves, officials said. The two-tunnel "Gateway" project is critical because the existing pair of century-old tubes under the Hudson River are just about at capacity with 450 Amtrak, NJ Transit and Metro-North Railroad trains each day. There's no room for error.

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Metro North doesn't use the North and South tubes that goes under the Hudson.

Yes it does, the Port Jervis Line Trains are really MNRR trains (with a connection at Secaucus).

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Yes it does, the Port Jervis Line Trains are really MNRR trains (with a connection at Secaucus).

But they don't use the NEC , they go Hoboken.

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i lived in NJ for 18 years. Metro North does not go into Hudson tube. the person probably wrote that because NJT did a football run from Connecticut to Secaucus for either Jets or Giants home game and got mix up with Metro North vs NJT. The football run was by NJT. The Hoboken station used NJT with jurisdiction of Metro North. 

 

Average joe you are wrong also. LIRR cannot enter the HUdson tube because their power is received by the third rail shoe while the tube is use the caternary and pentograph.(pardon my spelling)

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It's nice to get these tunnels, but isn't penn station itself at capacity already? It seems like there is never a free track for long. Just becuase they can gt more trains in does not mean there will be room for many more. 

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It's nice to get these tunnels, but isn't penn station itself at capacity already? It seems like there is never a free track for long. Just becuase they can gt more trains in does not mean there will be room for many more. 

Yes, but if there's more space for them to leave, then they can leave quicker, thus allowing more space.

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Yes, but if there's more space for them to leave, then they can leave quicker, thus allowing more space.

Won't there be a bottleneck on the Jersey side of the tunnels? It seems like the tunnels will just connect to existing trackage. 

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Won't there be a bottleneck on the Jersey side of the tunnels? It seems like the tunnels will just connect to existing trackage. 

No. Do some research on the Gateway project. They're proposing a completely new and separate right of way between NWK-Penn, and NYP. Also, addressing Penn Station capacities, they are also building 4 new platforms on the south side, with 7 new tracks.

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No. Do some research on the Gateway project. They're proposing a completely new and separate right of way between NWK-Penn, and NYP. Also, addressing Penn Station capacities, they are also building 4 new platforms on the south side, with 7 new tracks.

Thanks for the info, but geez, relax with the attitude. I've never heard of this project before and the article does not specify any of these details. 

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