AndrewJC Posted August 26, 2013 Share #51 Posted August 26, 2013 All of corona's R62A SMS work was done in 207th St overhaul shop recently, but for years the corona cars did get heavy work done at CI Thanks. That tidbit about the overhaul shop is interesting, though - where do the A division cars get sent for overhauls (minor the Corona ones)? 207? Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E For Erica Posted August 26, 2013 Share #52 Posted August 26, 2013 The R46's have 32 doors per train on each side. The R160's have 40 doors per train on each side. Since ridership on the E is very heavy, 40-door trains are typically assigned to the line, to keep dwell times down. Since the early 90's, the E ran almost exclusively R32's, then R42's for a short period during the R160's phase-in, and now R160's. Don't expect to see R46's on a regular basis. (Of course, in a pinch, R46's can run on the line.) Contrary to popular belief, NYCT doesn't assign cars based on who they expect to complain. (The overwhelming majority of riders don't care one way or the other, as long as the car is air conditioned and reliably gets them where they're going.) Right & I don't mean the should be all R46s. Just a few during the day and late nights make it half or mostly R46s to let the 160s rest up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted August 27, 2013 Share #53 Posted August 27, 2013 Remember that at the very end of the they also had R32's...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianpersaud95 Posted August 27, 2013 Share #54 Posted August 27, 2013 I 99% of the time have seen r46, but I miss the r160? Why did they take it off the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted August 27, 2013 Share #55 Posted August 27, 2013 I 99% of the time have seen r46, but I miss the r160? Why did they take it off the line? There are R160's on the . It depends on the time you ride the which may think there are much more R46's on the . The reson why there is more R46's on the is due to the Montague tube closure. The Southern portion of the can't have R46's at this time. Coney Island can only maintain the R160's which is the nearest yard to the Southern portion of the . There is a good amount of R160''s in the northern portion of the along with the R46's. The R46's that are displaced by the R160's well most of the R46's run on the . The is a long line that runs over 40 trains in the rush. It's like about half R46's and half R160's on that line. Don't assume that there are rarely R160's on the it depends on what time you ride the like I said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 27, 2013 Share #56 Posted August 27, 2013 I see both R46s and R160s on the . Sometimes a few R160s in row; sometimes a few R46s and sometimes R46 then R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkain Posted August 27, 2013 Share #57 Posted August 27, 2013 I thought they were still on. They Took 'em off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 27, 2013 Share #58 Posted August 27, 2013 There are three distinct facilities with similar names. Coney Island Yard is a storage facility, not a maintenance facility of any sort. It stores trains. That's it. Coney Island Maintenance Shop is responsible for everyday maintenance and scheduled inspections of the R160's, R68's, and R68A's assigned to the B, G, N, Q, and Franklin shuttle. It also, apparently, helps out on the R during the week. There haven't been any R46's assigned to Coney Island in decades. Coney Island Overhaul Shop is responsible for major overhaul work - SMS and the like - on all B Division cars. (I think the Corona fleet also has its SMS work at Coney Island Overhaul Shop - can anyone confirm?) Yeah I need to stop generalizing, thanks for the wake up call. Ok so since this is important, allow me to post what I know in more detail, feel free to add to this or make corrections, I might have factual typos in this. The overhaul & repair complex itself consists of three separate buildings as you've mentioned, which houses several shops: 1) The main overhaul shop (as you mentioned), 2) The electric motor repair shop, where maintenance is performed on HVAC units, pneumatic air compressors and so forth. 3) Paint shop, speaks for itself 4) The pneumatic shop where air brake units are repaired. (Now I'm wondering which shop handles the dynamic brakes on the NTT's?) 5) The Wheel, truck and axle shop, which handles repairs of axles, wheels, and trucks for the subway and SIRT fleets. Some of the massive equipment housed in the shop is the wheel boring machine, which reconditions the centers of wheels on the axles, some others are the wheel truing machine,which reprofiles subway wheels after excessive or unusual wear. 6) The Maintenance/inspection shop (as you mentioned) where daily inspections are made 7)The Traction motor shop, another dead ringer, repair and overhaul of propulsion motors, 8) The The shoe beam shop, for maintainance of third-rail shoe beams. 9) The The battery shop, again speaks for itself. 10) Finally the support shop were the machine, sheet metal, and blacksmith facilities are, also handles all maintenance of equipment within all the CI complex. 11) To add there are also materiel storage rooms, a medical center, a police firing range, and training facilities. What's interesting as well is that some of the shops is certified by the Association of American Railroads meaning that technically they have equipment that can handle repairs of any rapid transit and railroad cars in the entire country. Now that's something. The only other facility I believe that is capable of handling SMS work is the 207th Street shops, currently. The Lenox St yard used to have a overhaul shop for the IRT but it was demolished. Currently the main overhaul/repair shop for the A division is located at the 180th Street complex and Corona yard has a shop for repairs and light overhauls. (I think the Corona fleet also has its SMS work at Coney Island Overhaul Shop - can anyone confirm?) As for the overhauls of the R62As: It's should the Coney Island Overhaul Shops because they always did the major work on all cars. I've seen train crews reverse rail @ Pacific Street on the BMT 4th Ave many times on the way to the Manny B to Astoria back to Corona Yard from Coney Island, so that's an indication. The 207th Street shop is capable of SMS work but there currently booked you can say. Plus T/Os at subchat confirmed it as well. Plus pics taken suggests it. Pics of work at CI shops (Second one taken by NYCTF Administrator Brighton Local) Source: nycsubway.org (Rob Mencher) Source: nycsubway.org (Zach Summer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted August 27, 2013 Share #59 Posted August 27, 2013 I thought they were still on. They Took 'em off? Why do you think (multiple) threads on it would exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 28, 2013 Share #60 Posted August 28, 2013 Remember that at the very end of the they also had R32's...... July 1st 2009 most of the R40/42 fleet with the remaining R32s went to the R/V lines while most of the newer equipment was on the E/F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 28, 2013 Share #61 Posted August 28, 2013 Yeah I need to stop generalizing, thanks for the wake up call. Ok so since this is important, allow me to post what I know in more detail, feel free to add to this or make corrections, I might have factual typos in this. The overhaul & repair complex itself consists of three separate buildings as you've mentioned, which houses several shops: 1) The main overhaul shop (as you mentioned), 2) The electric motor repair shop, where maintenance is performed on HVAC units, pneumatic air compressors and so forth. 3) Paint shop, speaks for itself 4) The pneumatic shop where air brake units are repaired. (Now I'm wondering which shop handles the dynamic brakes on the NTT's?) 5) The Wheel, truck and axle shop, which handles repairs of axles, wheels, and trucks for the subway and SIRT fleets. Some of the massive equipment housed in the shop is the wheel boring machine, which reconditions the centers of wheels on the axles, some others are the wheel truing machine,which reprofiles subway wheels after excessive or unusual wear. 6) The Maintenance/inspection shop (as you mentioned) where daily inspections are made 7)The Traction motor shop, another dead ringer, repair and overhaul of propulsion motors, 8) The The shoe beam shop, for maintainance of third-rail shoe beams. 9) The The battery shop, again speaks for itself. 10) Finally the support shop were the machine, sheet metal, and blacksmith facilities are, also handles all maintenance of equipment within all the CI complex. 11) To add there are also materiel storage rooms, a medical center, a police firing range, and training facilities. What's interesting as well is that some of the shops is certified by the Association of American Railroads meaning that technically they have equipment that can handle repairs of any rapid transit and railroad cars in the entire country. Now that's something. The only other facility I believe that is capable of handling SMS work is the 207th Street shops, currently. The Lenox St yard used to have a overhaul shop for the IRT but it was demolished. Currently the main overhaul/repair shop for the A division is located at the 180th Street complex and Corona yard has a shop for repairs and light overhauls. As for the overhauls of the R62As: It's should the Coney Island Overhaul Shops because they always did the major work on all cars. I've seen train crews reverse rail @ Pacific Street on the BMT 4th Ave many times on the way to the Manny B to Astoria back to Corona Yard from Coney Island, so that's an indication. The 207th Street shop is capable of SMS work but there currently booked you can say. Plus T/Os at subchat confirmed it as well. Plus pics taken suggests it. Pics of work at CI shops (Second one taken by NYCTF Administrator Brighton Local) Source: nycsubway.org (Rob Mencher) Source: nycsubway.org (Zach Summer) The 1 R62A SMS were done at CI, the Corona R62A SMS was done at 207th, but the ta plans to make 207th a A division shop, I was surprised that the 1 cars were done at CI instead of 207th, but most A division work will be done at 207th shops, as for the R188s they might get heavy work done at CI, but the mainline cars are done at 207th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted August 28, 2013 Share #62 Posted August 28, 2013 Yeah I need to stop generalizing, thanks for the wake up call. Ok so since this is important, allow me to post what I know in more detail, feel free to add to this or make corrections, I might have factual typos in this. The overhaul & repair complex itself consists of three separate buildings as you've mentioned, which houses several shops: 1) The main overhaul shop (as you mentioned), 2) The electric motor repair shop, where maintenance is performed on HVAC units, pneumatic air compressors and so forth. 3) Paint shop, speaks for itself 4) The pneumatic shop where air brake units are repaired. (Now I'm wondering which shop handles the dynamic brakes on the NTT's?) 5) The Wheel, truck and axle shop, which handles repairs of axles, wheels, and trucks for the subway and SIRT fleets. Some of the massive equipment housed in the shop is the wheel boring machine, which reconditions the centers of wheels on the axles, some others are the wheel truing machine,which reprofiles subway wheels after excessive or unusual wear. 6) The Maintenance/inspection shop (as you mentioned) where daily inspections are made 7)The Traction motor shop, another dead ringer, repair and overhaul of propulsion motors, 8) The The shoe beam shop, for maintainance of third-rail shoe beams. 9) The The battery shop, again speaks for itself. 10) Finally the support shop were the machine, sheet metal, and blacksmith facilities are, also handles all maintenance of equipment within all the CI complex. 11) To add there are also materiel storage rooms, a medical center, a police firing range, and training facilities. What's interesting as well is that some of the shops is certified by the Association of American Railroads meaning that technically they have equipment that can handle repairs of any rapid transit and railroad cars in the entire country. Now that's something. The only other facility I believe that is capable of handling SMS work is the 207th Street shops, currently. The Lenox St yard used to have a overhaul shop for the IRT but it was demolished. Currently the main overhaul/repair shop for the A division is located at the 180th Street complex and Corona yard has a shop for repairs and light overhauls. As for the overhauls of the R62As: It's should the Coney Island Overhaul Shops because they always did the major work on all cars. I've seen train crews reverse rail @ Pacific Street on the BMT 4th Ave many times on the way to the Manny B to Astoria back to Corona Yard from Coney Island, so that's an indication. The 207th Street shop is capable of SMS work but there currently booked you can say. Plus T/Os at subchat confirmed it as well. Plus pics taken suggests it. Pics of work at CI shops (Second one taken by NYCTF Administrator Brighton Local) Source: nycsubway.org (Rob Mencher) Source: nycsubway.org (Zach Summer) Any yard is capable for light maintenance for their respective fleet (save for Unionport, a satellite to 180, Lenox, a satellite for Livonia, Canarsie & Fresh Pond, a satellite for ENY). Whatever can't be done gets sent to Coney Island or 207. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 28, 2013 Share #63 Posted August 28, 2013 Yes I realize that pretty much all yards are equipped with shops for light maintenance or daily inspections. I was referring to major repair work, general overhauls (GOH) , or SMS (Scheduled maintenance service) -- only 207th and CI Yard can do that heavy work as only those two facilities has the major equipment. Unless we are considering SMS, in itself light maintenance, if that's the case the I will have to stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 28, 2013 Share #64 Posted August 28, 2013 speaking of R46 on the and R160, you can always see a 160 on the on weekends since its not that much as the rush hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 28, 2013 Share #65 Posted August 28, 2013 Yes I realize that pretty much all yards are equipped with shops for light maintenance or daily inspections. I was referring to major repair work, general overhauls (GOH) , or SMS (Scheduled maintenance service) -- only 207th and CI Yard can do that heavy work as only those two facilities has the major equipment. Unless we are considering SMS, in itself light maintenance, if that's the case the I will have to stand corrected. Correction on abbreviation: SMS or Scheduled Maintenance System. (off beat today admittably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted September 2, 2013 Share #66 Posted September 2, 2013 Yeah I need to stop generalizing, thanks for the wake up call. Ok so since this is important, allow me to post what I know in more detail, feel free to add to this or make corrections, I might have factual typos in this. The overhaul & repair complex itself consists of three separate buildings as you've mentioned, which houses several shops: 1) The main overhaul shop (as you mentioned), 2) The electric motor repair shop, where maintenance is performed on HVAC units, pneumatic air compressors and so forth. 3) Paint shop, speaks for itself 4) The pneumatic shop where air brake units are repaired. (Now I'm wondering which shop handles the dynamic brakes on the NTT's?) 5) The Wheel, truck and axle shop, which handles repairs of axles, wheels, and trucks for the subway and SIRT fleets. Some of the massive equipment housed in the shop is the wheel boring machine, which reconditions the centers of wheels on the axles, some others are the wheel truing machine,which reprofiles subway wheels after excessive or unusual wear. 6) The Maintenance/inspection shop (as you mentioned) where daily inspections are made 7)The Traction motor shop, another dead ringer, repair and overhaul of propulsion motors, 8) The The shoe beam shop, for maintainance of third-rail shoe beams. 9) The The battery shop, again speaks for itself. 10) Finally the support shop were the machine, sheet metal, and blacksmith facilities are, also handles all maintenance of equipment within all the CI complex. 11) To add there are also materiel storage rooms, a medical center, a police firing range, and training facilities. What's interesting as well is that some of the shops is certified by the Association of American Railroads meaning that technically they have equipment that can handle repairs of any rapid transit and railroad cars in the entire country. Now that's something. Thanks for the details! I'm not familiar with shops in that level of detail, so don't count on me to make corrections or additions. Any yard is capable for light maintenance for their respective fleet (save for Unionport, a satellite to 180, Lenox, a satellite for Livonia, Canarsie & Fresh Pond, a satellite for ENY). Whatever can't be done gets sent to Coney Island or 207. Yards are not capable of doing maintenance. Shops are. Unionport, Lenox, Canarsie, and Fresh Pond are examples of yards that don't contain shops. They're not satellites; they're just plain yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtrain4thAv Posted October 7, 2013 Share #67 Posted October 7, 2013 Joseph Korman's website has a section called Car Assignments which shows which line gets X amount of cars and what type. As of September 29, 2013, most of the R32s used on the (J)/(Z) lines were returned to the . http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted October 7, 2013 Share #68 Posted October 7, 2013 Do T/O's get to pick their trains sometimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted October 7, 2013 Share #69 Posted October 7, 2013 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted October 7, 2013 Share #70 Posted October 7, 2013 Actually they have been a few more R160s added to the Fox and they sent a few more R46s to the Romeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted October 8, 2013 Share #71 Posted October 8, 2013 I've noticed this. I've been riding more R160s on the as of late. As for the , I almost always get a 160 train there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bknyfinest1 Posted December 12, 2014 Share #72 Posted December 12, 2014 I know this is an old thread, but does anyone know why there are still tons of R46 trains on the F even though the Montague repairs have been finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 12, 2014 Share #73 Posted December 12, 2014 Necroposting, much? The and always share fleets since they are both based out of Jamaica. Whatever that's available is what operates on the day(s) in question depending on the rider's perspective. The is strictly 160s due to the 60 feets having more doors than the 75 feets, and also, because of its ridership. Question answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 12, 2014 Share #74 Posted December 12, 2014 I know this is an old thread, but does anyone know why there are still tons of R46 trains on the F even though the Montague repairs have been finished? I also seen a 160 on the today.... I wonder the same thing, as the was usually 100 percent R46 since the fall of 2012, with the 46's sprinkled on the . Not complaining though, I love the mixed fleets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 13, 2014 Share #75 Posted December 13, 2014 I haven't been on the like that enough to keep up with this, but what T to Dyre said... last year... I also picked up on (and it still remained true until somewhat recently here in 2014, from what I noticed), having boarded (F)'s at Roosevelt av. en route to 21st.... That is, until earlier in the week, when I had to do the same commute, and ended up doing a double-take when I saw an R46 on the again..... There was a string of weeks when I'd embark on nothing but R160's...... Personally, I like the R46's more.... But I won't disclose any reasons because quite frankly, I'm not in it to mix it up with anyone on some fanboy pissing contest shit..... So my question(s) is a simple one... When did they resort to running R46's on the F again (from the fall season of this year, on)? Or were they always running on the during that timeframe and it just so happened that I've been running into (meaning riding/catching) the R160's during, pretty much, since September? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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