bobtehpanda Posted March 9, 2014 Share #101 Posted March 9, 2014 I've had a lot of very normal trips on the vans but ok. The majority of vans drive fine; they just happen to drive like everyone else on the roads, and New York's brand of driver isn't exactly known for being law-abiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynIRT Posted March 9, 2014 Share #102 Posted March 9, 2014 The majority of vans drive fine; they just happen to drive like everyone else on the roads, and New York's brand of driver isn't exactly known for being law-abiding. Are you implying that driving fine means driving like the majority of motorists when the majority of motorists are not law-abiding? Does this mean society considers it fine to drive in a non-law-abiding manner because "everybody does it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 9, 2014 Share #103 Posted March 9, 2014 The majority of vans drive fine; they just happen to drive like everyone else on the roads, and New York's brand of driver isn't exactly known for being law-abiding. Part in bold... Are you talking about drivers in NY© in general, or the majority of dollar van drivers in NY© ? Are you implying that driving fine means driving like the majority of motorists when the majority of motorists are not law-abiding? Does this mean society considers it fine to drive in a non-law-abiding manner because "everybody does it?" I was starting to agree with the point you were making, up until you said that part in bold..... The majority of motorists are not law-abiding? This obsession with demonizing motorists has gotten out of hand..... Buses are slow now because the lead-footed white guys have mostly retired, and its all about "safety" with the greenhorns (not that safety is a bad thing mind you) Although eloquently put, I have to agree with this.... I see what you're getting at (although I think it was more a PBL vs MTA thing, regarding the amount of leadfoot drivers that existed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted March 9, 2014 Share #104 Posted March 9, 2014 Are you implying that driving fine means driving like the majority of motorists when the majority of motorists are not law-abiding? Does this mean society considers it fine to drive in a non-law-abiding manner because "everybody does it?" Well, to say that New York drivers have a reputation for something does not necessarily mean it is true (and in any case, motorists should not be talking about the dollar van drivers like their s*** don't stink.) I'm not condoning anything; I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Dollar vans are essentially half-legal anyways; they must get licensed, but curbside pickups are illegal. Part in bold... Are you talking about drivers in NY© in general, or the majority of dollar van drivers in NY© ? The metro area just has really crappy drivers in general. The approaches of the river crossings in New York are proof enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynIRT Posted March 10, 2014 Share #105 Posted March 10, 2014 This obsession with demonizing motorists has gotten out of hand..... Seemingly. (That answer applies regardless of whether there is an "obsession with demonizing motorists" here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 10, 2014 Share #106 Posted March 10, 2014 Seemingly. (That answer applies regardless of whether there is an "obsession with demonizing motorists" here.) Yeah, good for you.... ----------------------- Anyway.... The metro area just has really crappy drivers in general. The approaches of the river crossings in New York are proof enough. I'm not doubting there are crappy (for lack of a better term) drivers in this city.... I just don't see how you can say the majority of vans drive fine; they just happen to drive like everyone else on the roads - and then bring up the reputation of NYC's drivers..... There is a certain implication that goes with such a statement..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynIRT Posted March 10, 2014 Share #107 Posted March 10, 2014 And what might that implication be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynIRT Posted March 12, 2014 Share #108 Posted March 12, 2014 Guess I or somebody else should have typed "[/thread]." lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 16, 2014 Share #109 Posted March 16, 2014 Yes it went live for us on Monday....they really got nothing else better to spend money on? How about a better pension for the x private line guys?? They should make every stop a time point just like it is on the guide a ride. This way everybody will be on the same page. I agree with this point... Why did they stop doing this anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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