Has anyone ever actually seen fare collectors on M34SBS?

[mdude04]

(MEANT TO WRITE "FARE INSPECTORS")

 

Living on 36th Street, this is the only MTA bus I ever ride, and I have never seen fare inspectors come on board. It's such a short route, and with almost all passengers exiting and just one or two of the stops, I can't even really envision it. I've only ridden it about 20 times or so, so I'm certainly not an everyday rider. Not saying I would ever jump on the bus without paying, but I would kind of like to be stopped by a fare inspector just once to justify the fares I've paid.

(P.S. I've also taken the M15SBS a handful of times and never encountered fare inspectors there, either; I'm really just curious about how the whole thing goes down!)

[aemoreira81]

I have encountered inspectors on the M15 SBS...but never on the M34/A SBS in my limited sampling.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Yeah, I use both usually for short distances... I've only encountered fare inspectors on the M15SBS once at 50th street when I got off.  I had bags with me so they allowed me to take my time and get my receipt out as I stepped onto the curb and then I was on my way.  I've used the M34 here and there and have never seen one.  My biggest gripe with the M34SBS is that I can never get one, even with Bus Time. It's just quicker to walk the few blocks I'm going rather than wait for one.

[QM1to6Ave]

Yes, I've been inspected multiple times on the 15 and 34, usually at 23rd street on the M15 and by Madison on the 34. I'm glad I always pay because I seem to have bad luck when it comes to avoiding inspectors. 

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Yes, I've been inspected multiple times on the 15 and 34, usually at 23rd street on the M15 and by Madison on the 34. I'm glad I always pay because I seem to have bad luck when it comes to avoiding inspectors. 

lol... That explains it... I rarely ride the M15SBS  that far down... It's easier to just jump on the subway.

[QM1to6Ave]

lol... That explains it... I rarely ride the M15SBS  that far down... It's easier to just jump on the subway.

Once the SAS opens, I'll be using the subway as well, but for now, lower east side is fastest by M15 when you factor in the walking from the

[BToSI]

Yep, on the one time I rode it to get to the Rockaway Ferry. What I don't get is why the bus has to remain stopped while the inspection occurs--it really puts a dent in the ride duration.

[Vistausss]

Once the SAS opens, I'll be using the subway as well, but for now, lower east side is fastest by M15 when you factor in the walking from the

 

That's weird 'cause everytime the M15(SBS) comes up, everyone is hatin' on its slowness... seems to me like walking from the ain't that bad then.

 

Yep, on the one time I rode it to get to the Rockaway Ferry. What I don't get is why the bus has to remain stopped while the inspection occurs--it really puts a dent in the ride duration.

 

Yup. That was also the case over here until commuters complained enough for them to realize the bus can still drive while the inspectors are inspecting. So they done away with the extended stopping. Would be great if also realized that. The inspectors can just hop off at the next stop and take a bus from there (whichever one they want to inspect next). Would really help make the SBS even faster

[bobtehpanda]

That's weird 'cause everytime the M15(SBS) comes up, everyone is hatin' on its slowness... seems to me like walking from the ain't that bad then.

 

It's not that bad, but when it gets slow (due to, say, a tanker truck fire closing off the Queensboro), it gets really slow.

 

The M15 is certainly more convenient on the lower stretches, where there aren't really any clear routes from the Lower East Side to South Ferry.

[QM1to6Ave]

That's weird 'cause everytime the M15(SBS) comes up, everyone is hatin' on its slowness... seems to me like walking from the ain't that bad then.

 

 

Yup. That was also the case over here until commuters complained enough for them to realize the bus can still drive while the inspectors are inspecting. So they done away with the extended stopping. Would be great if also realized that. The inspectors can just hop off at the next stop and take a bus from there (whichever one they want to inspect next). Would really help make the SBS even faster

I'm a big fan of the M15SBS personally. My work requires me to go up and down the far east side, from Midtown to Downtown, and it is very convenient. It is pretty full for most of the day, and I avoid it going uptown during the morning rush, but pretty fast and reliable other than that. The walk from the 6 to 1st avenue or farther east is longer than it seems and can take a while. 

 

On the Upper East Side itself, though, the 15 can be more of a crapshoot, and tends to get caught in traffic. But now I pretty much only take SBS buses in Manhattan since all the local and limited buses are too damn slow

It's not that bad, but when it gets slow (due to, say, a tanker truck fire closing off the Queensboro), it gets really slow.

 

The M15 is certainly more convenient on the lower stretches, where there aren't really any clear routes from the Lower East Side to South Ferry.

Oh man, those 59th Street bridge fires were absolute hell. Traffic was so snarled at the end of the summer, it was just unbelievable. Everyone's talking about the GWB bridgegate, but that 59th Street Bridge problem was my personal bridgegate.  

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Once the SAS opens, I'll be using the subway as well, but for now, lower east side is fastest by M15 when you factor in the walking from the

Very true... All depends on where in Lower Manhattan you need to go...

 

That's weird 'cause everytime the M15(SBS) comes up, everyone is hatin' on its slowness... seems to me like walking from the ain't that bad then.

 

Well I've used the M15SBS as an experiment when I was picking up a bid Downtown a few years ago.  I got on along Pearl St., then took the M15SBS up to 42nd and 1st, and while it wasn't bad and the guy was moving, it still took longer than the subway since I had to transfer to the M42 afterwards.  What I could've done was walked to the and then transferred at Fulton for the , but I didn't feel like doing that since I had my bids with me and wasn't in a rush.

[AndrewJC]

Well I've used the M15SBS as an experiment when I was picking up a bid Downtown a few years ago.  I got on along Pearl St., then took the M15SBS up to 42nd and 1st, and while it wasn't bad and the guy was moving, it still took longer than the subway since I had to transfer to the M42 afterwards.  What I could've done was walked to the and then transferred at Fulton for the , but I didn't feel like doing that since I had my bids with me and wasn't in a rush.

 

For future reference, you might as well walk directly to Wall/Broadway for the 4/5 directly - the 2/3 is no closer to the 4/5 at Fulton, and there's a lot more climbing up and down.

 

On weekdays, there's even an underground connection from William to Broadway, if the weather's bad and you don't want to walk outdoors: walk through Chase Manhattan Plaza to the J/Z mezzanine and pick up the Equitable Building passageway to the 4/5 (I'll warn you in advance, it's twisty and narrow but really really cool, and I'm always amazed it survived the high-crime era).

[QM1to6Ave]

By the way, fare inspectors were at 34th and 3rd yesterday around 2 pm doing inspections in the M34SBS

[realizm]

(MEANT TO WRITE "FARE INSPECTORS")

 

Living on 36th Street, this is the only MTA bus I ever ride, and I have never seen fare inspectors come on board. It's such a short route, and with almost all passengers exiting and just one or two of the stops, I can't even really envision it. I've only ridden it about 20 times or so, so I'm certainly not an everyday rider. Not saying I would ever jump on the bus without paying, but I would kind of like to be stopped by a fare inspector just once to justify the fares I've paid.

 

(P.S. I've also taken the M15SBS a handful of times and never encountered fare inspectors there, either; I'm really just curious about how the whole thing goes down!)

 

I didn't see any fare inspectors in sight at all when I took the Bx12 +SBS+ recently. I boarded @ Fordham Plaza and went all the way to Pelham Bay Park to get the   ! And this was during the late AM rush. No one. I found that to be odd.

 

I didn't see any either on the B44 +SBS+ but on that one it was late at night so I wasn't surprised.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

For future reference, you might as well walk directly to Wall/Broadway for the 4/5 directly - the 2/3 is no closer to the 4/5 at Fulton, and there's a lot more climbing up and down.

 

On weekdays, there's even an underground connection from William to Broadway, if the weather's bad and you don't want to walk outdoors: walk through Chase Manhattan Plaza to the J/Z mezzanine and pick up the Equitable Building passageway to the 4/5 (I'll warn you in advance, it's twisty and narrow but really really cool, and I'm always amazed it survived the high-crime era).

I'm aware of that.  I've been using the subway for years, not just yesterday, but thanks for your unsolicited advice. As I said I wasn't in a rush so it really didn't matter which way I went.  

[NYSubwayBuff]

Damn you don't have to be sarcastic he was just trying to give some advice

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Damn you don't have to be sarcastic he was just trying to give some advice

He has a habit of talking down to people.  You're new here so you're not that familiar with him...

[realizm]

Damn you don't have to be sarcastic he was just trying to give some advice

 

Agreed. Andrew JC is a well respected member here with a wealth of knowledge as a true content poster and I didnt appreciate that sarcastic response he received either. JC doesn't necessarily talk down to people he is simply very charismatic and enthusiastic when talking about transit issues which I understand and appreciate. Apparently someone here doesn't get it but we do. I saw nothing wrong with Andrew JC's post, that was a solid comment in my opinion.

 

Its too bad someone has to interrupt every single thread imaginable in this string of childish tantrums and tirades in attempts to toss out trollbait and derail threads in a fever of attention whoring. Ignore him people.

[realizm]

For future reference, you might as well walk directly to Wall/Broadway for the 4/5 directly - the 2/3 is no closer to the 4/5 at Fulton, and there's a lot more climbing up and down.

 

On weekdays, there's even an underground connection from William to Broadway, if the weather's bad and you don't want to walk outdoors: walk through Chase Manhattan Plaza to the J/Z mezzanine and pick up the Equitable Building passageway to the 4/5 (I'll warn you in advance, it's twisty and narrow but really really cool, and I'm always amazed it survived the high-crime era).

 

And yup, you are correct. Thats how I navigate and make transfers in the financial district. With all the feeder lines to the trunk lines bunched up makes for many options for travel.

 

The stairs on the Fulton St area and the puzzling maze of corridors are something else. Thanks for bringing this up.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

By the way, fare inspectors were at 34th and 3rd yesterday around 2 pm doing inspections in the M34SBS

Have you always seen artics on the M34 now? I've noticed on some lines that they're starting to use 40 footers here and there.  I don't know if this is because they're short on buses or what but it's interesting nonetheless.

[Vistausss]

Agreed. Andrew JC is a well respected member here with a wealth of knowledge as a true content poster and I didnt appreciate that sarcastic response he received either. JC doesn't necessarily talk down to people he is simply very charismatic and enthusiastic when talking about transit issues which I understand and appreciate. Apparently someone here doesn't get it but we do. I saw nothing wrong with Andrew JC's post, that was a solid comment in my opinion.

 

Its too bad someone has to interrupt every single thread imaginable in this string of childish tantrums and tirades in attempts to toss out trollbait and derail threads in a fever of attention whoring. Ignore him people.

 

Couldn t agree more. AndrewJC is one of the most knowledgable people on this forum, and, well... actually, you said everything so well that I don t need to elaborate any further.

 

Have you always seen artics on the M34 now? I've noticed on some lines that they're starting to use 40 footers here and there.  I don't know if this is because they're short on buses or what but it's interesting nonetheless.

 

SBS and SBSBRT are two forms of BRT that don't explicitly use artics, normally...

[bobtehpanda]

Have you always seen artics on the M34 now? I've noticed on some lines that they're starting to use 40 footers here and there.  I don't know if this is because they're short on buses or what but it's interesting nonetheless.

 

There aren't enough articulated buses going around for all the routes that need them (and this isn't just SBS routes)

[NYSubwayBuff]

There aren't enough articulated buses going around for all the routes that need them (and this isn't just SBS routes)

Can't wait for the next artic order, many areas are growing in pop. and need artic buses to handle the loads

[bobtehpanda]

Can't wait for the next artic order, many areas are growing in pop. and need artic buses to handle the loads

 

Be careful what you wish for; every route that has seen the introduction of arctics has seen the reduction of service frequency as well (the logic is, why have 3 40 foot buses every hour when I can have 2 60 ft buses?)

[MichalkaManiac]

I believe I have taken one ride on the M34/A to from get from Lex to MSG, and yes I encountered fare controllers on that trip.