N6 Limited Posted March 25, 2014 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2014 http://new.mta.info/news-subway-ridership-l-r-g-b-d-4-7/2014/03/24/2013-ridership-reaches-65-year-high March 24th, 2014 L train The NYC Transit ridership pages onwww.mta.info have been updated to include 2013 ridership for both buses and subways. Click here for ridership statistics. Annual subway ridership of 1.708 billion is now the highest since 1949, and weekday ridership of 5.5 million is the highest since 1950. Weekend subway ridership was 5.8 million and has surpassed the highest ever ridership in 1946. Of note, total annual ridership increased 3.2% from 2012 to 2013, partially due to the five weekdays in 2012 with no service or free fares following SuperstormSandy. However, even adjusting for Sandy, 2013 ridership increased more than 1.0% over 2012. Average weekday ridership increased 1.6% from 2012, excluding the five weekdays in 2012 with no service or free fares after Sandy. Weekend ridership increased even more at a 2.5% clip. Some other tidbits include: Brooklyn had the largest borough-wide average weekday ridership percentage increase (2.4% or more than 27,000 riders per weekday), driven by strong growth on the Canarsie Crosstown and Culver lines, as well as at the Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctrstation. The Canarsie line had the largest percentage increase in the entire system (5.3% or more than 6,000 riders per weekday), continuing an on-going trend of strong growth on the line. Ridership increased at every station on the line, including an 8.1% increase at the Bedford Av station. Weekday ridership has increased at Bedford Av by more than 50% since 2007. Ninety-eight weekly round trips were added to the line in 2012 and service will be increased again this June. The Crosstown line had a 4.7% (more than 2,200 riders) weekday increase. Ridership growth was strong at stations in the Clinton Hill and Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhoods, likely due to new residential development, as well as more travel between northern Brooklyn and activities in downtown Brooklyn (including the Barclays Center cited below). Service on the line will be added this June. The Culver line had a 4.5% (more than 4,200 riders) weekday increase, as riders returned to their normal stations following the reopening of the Smith-9 Sts station in April 2013, and return to normal service at the Fort Hamilton Pkwy and 15 St-Prospect Park stations. In addition, strong ridership growth continued at the York St station with a 10.7% increase in 2013, reflecting continued development in DUMBO. The Atlantic Ave-Barclays Ctr station had an 11.8% (4,200 riders) weekday increase, reflecting a full year of activities at the Barclays Center which opened in September 2012. Ridership at the nearby Fulton Street station increased 7.8%. Ridership was strong in Harlem, including a 4.6% (2,600 riders) weekday increase on the Lenox line segment. Post-Sandy reconstruction had an adverse effect on ridership on the Rockaway line in Queens (down 17.6%) and the Broadway-60 St line in Manhattan (down 4.5%). Normal Rockway line service was restored on May 30, 2013 after the connection with the mainland was completely rebuilt in the aftermath of Sandy. Service was suspended through the Montague Street tunnel on the line starting August 3, 2013 for post-Sandy recovery work, affecting ridership on the Broadway-60 St line. Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr was the busiest station in Brooklyn in total annual and average weekend ridership, even though Jay Street-MetroTech served more weekday riders. The busiest station in the Bronx was 161st Street-Yankee Stadium and the busiest station in Queens was Flushing-Main Street . Wow, you mean if you extend the to Church Ave to make it more useful, and developers build around it, ridership will increase? No way! Perhaps they should reconsider reconnecting Williamsburg with Queens Center Mall on weekends once again. I still think they should connect the and at Union and Broadway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted March 25, 2014 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2014 Well i Think The Mta http://new.mta.info/news-subway-ridership-l-r-g-b-d-4-7/2014/03/24/2013-ridership-reaches-65-year-high Wow, you mean if you extend the to Church Ave to make it more useful, and developers build around it, ridership will increase? No way! Perhaps they should reconsider reconnecting Williamsburg with Queens Center Mall on weekends once again. I still think they should connect the and at Union and Broadway This will be a good time to make the G train 6 cars again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted March 25, 2014 Share #3 Posted March 25, 2014 http://new.mta.info/news-subway-ridership-l-r-g-b-d-4-7/2014/03/24/2013-ridership-reaches-65-year-high Wow, you mean if you extend the to Church Ave to make it more useful, and developers build around it, ridership will increase? No way! Perhaps they should reconsider reconnecting Williamsburg with Queens Center Mall on weekends once again. I still think they should connect the and at Union and Broadway The MTA was unwilling to consider even a free OOS transfer at Hewes and Broadway because they thought it would become a way for people to bum free rides that they otherwise wouldn't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted March 25, 2014 Share #4 Posted March 25, 2014 The MTA was unwilling to consider even a free OOS transfer at Hewes and Broadway because they thought it would become a way for people to bum free rides that they otherwise wouldn't get. Actually, the MTA was unwilling to change its long-standing policy of only providing out of system transfers to mitigate for service changes because the MetroCard system is unable to distinguish between actual transfers and second trips. Anybody taking the G to Broadway, running an errand, and getting back on the G would get a free transfer, in most cases probably without even realizing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted March 26, 2014 Share #5 Posted March 26, 2014 What interests me is how the system coped with that number of passengers back then. Considering these were the days of 4-6-8 car trains and trains being split in station. Granted the system was also bigger then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted March 26, 2014 What interests me is how the system coped with that number of passengers back then. Considering these were the days of 4-6-8 car trains and trains being split in station. Granted the system was also bigger then... That was when it was RAPID transit, trains ran faster, less timers, more trains could be squeezed on the tracks, etc. Actually, the MTA was unwilling to change its long-standing policy of only providing out of system transfers to mitigate for service changes because the MetroCard system is unable to distinguish between actual transfers and second trips. Anybody taking the G to Broadway, running an errand, and getting back on the G would get a free transfer, in most cases probably without even realizing it. Isn't it mostly riders with unlimited cards that even bother to make out of system transfers anyway? They can connect the two lines with a walk way if they're worried about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 26, 2014 Share #7 Posted March 26, 2014 That would be a long walkway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted March 26, 2014 Share #8 Posted March 26, 2014 With all this fare revenue pouring in, they should have no excuses whatsoever for their budget problems. Yet they do. Just another day at the MTA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted March 26, 2014 That would be a long walkway. Not much different than the transfer at Times Square or 14th St between the 6th and 7th Ave lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted March 26, 2014 Share #10 Posted March 26, 2014 Well i Think The Mta This will be a good time to make the G train 6 cars again.. Or 480' (eight 60' cars) that can be interchangeable with the Eastern Division (in its current form). Speaking of the Eastern Division, perhaps it's time to seriously look at expanding all platforms, at least on the to 600' if not 670' (the longer distance would allow for 10 67-foot car trains in the future). Also, I would go in general with 67-foot cars that can more easily be used in both the Eastern Division and regular divisions with the idea of eventually making ALL stations 670 feet in length for 10 67-foot car trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E train line Posted March 26, 2014 Share #11 Posted March 26, 2014 Not much different than the transfer at Times Square or 14th St between the 6th and 7th Ave lines. I would say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 26, 2014 Share #12 Posted March 26, 2014 Or 480' (eight 60' cars) that can be interchangeable with the Eastern Division (in its current form). Speaking of the Eastern Division, perhaps it's time to seriously look at expanding all platforms, at least on the to 600' if not 670' (the longer distance would allow for 10 67-foot car trains in the future). Also, I would go in general with 67-foot cars that can more easily be used in both the Eastern Division and regular divisions with the idea of eventually making ALL stations 670 feet in length for 10 67-foot car trains. So, not only do you want the Eastern Div platforms extended, a process that will require a massive undertaking, especially on the mostly underground Canarsie, you want it to be an oddball length compared to the rest of the B-Div. I'm all for extending the platforms to the normal 600 feet, but what could possibly be gained with 670 feet? Also, instead of finally unifying the B-Division fleet, you want to continue the trend of oddball train lengths there with 67 foot cars. That would require specialized orders for the East until the rest of the system could catch up, if the MTA ever decided to take on the expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted March 26, 2014 Share #13 Posted March 26, 2014 Well i Think The Mta This will be a good time to make the G train 6 cars again.. I mean, technically the is 6 cars (Four 75 foot cars = Six 60 foot cars, the platform car markers are set up for 60 footers so it's technically 6 cars. The 68's are in pairs so theoretically you could make it 6 75footers for a technically speaking "8" car train - but where is the equipment coming from? More trains, to the extent the F will allow is a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted March 26, 2014 Share #14 Posted March 26, 2014 You hit it right on the nose, itmaybeokay! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 26, 2014 Share #15 Posted March 26, 2014 I mean, technically the is 6 cars (Four 75 foot cars = Six 60 foot cars, the platform car markers are set up for 60 footers so it's technically 6 cars. The 68's are in pairs so theoretically you could make it 6 75footers for a technically speaking "8" car train - but where is the equipment coming from? More trains, to the extent the F will allow is a better option. 4 75 foot cars = 300 feet 5 60 foot cars = 300 feet The 68s (minus the Franklin singles) are in sets of 4 so with them you could only have either a 300 foot 4 car or 8 car 600 foot train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted March 27, 2014 Share #16 Posted March 27, 2014 So, not only do you want the Eastern Div platforms extended, a process that will require a massive undertaking, especially on the mostly underground Canarsie, you want it to be an oddball length compared to the rest of the B-Div. I'm all for extending the platforms to the normal 600 feet, but what could possibly be gained with 670 feet? Also, instead of finally unifying the B-Division fleet, you want to continue the trend of oddball train lengths there with 67 foot cars. That would require specialized orders for the East until the rest of the system could catch up, if the MTA ever decided to take on the expense. The few times that I've been on the Nassau line it looks, to me, that the platforms from Essex to about Myrtle can berth 9 cars, but I don't know if that would be cutting it close, and I don't know about the rest of the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 28, 2014 Share #17 Posted March 28, 2014 My home station has moved ahead of Forest Hills by 1 rank this year to 39th last year it was 40th and was behind Continental! Using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku Posted March 29, 2014 Share #18 Posted March 29, 2014 What is the highest ridership for New York subway? Number of passengers and year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 29, 2014 Share #19 Posted March 29, 2014 This is Andy Cuomo's nightmare. PEOPLE USING PUBLIC TRANSPORT?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 30, 2014 Share #20 Posted March 30, 2014 Lol @ E train line gettin negged rep 4 times for posting a quote & saying nothin under it..... (unless I'm out of the loop & am missing something) What is the highest ridership for New York subway? Number of passengers and year? The year that keeps getting thrown around for highest ever subway ridership is 1946... The exact number of pax, the MTA stats don't say.... but on a line graph, it illustrates that it's a little over 2 billion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted March 30, 2014 Share #21 Posted March 30, 2014 Lol @ E train line gettin negged rep 4 times for posting a quote & saying nothin under it..... (unless I'm out of the loop & am missing something) The year that keeps getting thrown around for highest ever subway ridership is 1946... The exact number of pax, the MTA stats don't say.... but on a line graph, it illustrates that it's a little over 2 billion.... It's within the quote box. If you look at his post history, it's all variations of "I would say no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted March 30, 2014 Share #22 Posted March 30, 2014 One interesting fact: the line stops at half of the 10 busiest stations and has a stretch of 8 consecutive stops in the top 50 for overall usage. If we expand to top 100 it becomes 13 consecutive stops and all but 2 stops in Manhattan (110th and Spring). One line sure gets it's fair share of riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku Posted March 31, 2014 Share #23 Posted March 31, 2014 The year that keeps getting thrown around for highest ever subway ridership is 1946... The exact number of pax, the MTA stats don't say.... but on a line graph, it illustrates that it's a little over 2 billion.... Thank you, Interesting, the year with the highest ridership for Paris metro is also 1946. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted March 31, 2014 Share #24 Posted March 31, 2014 Thank you, Interesting, the year with the highest ridership for Paris metro is also 1946. Probably because of the war; in America at least, automobile production was stopped during the war, and it probably didn't get back up til a while afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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