realizm Posted April 22, 2014 Share #101 Posted April 22, 2014 Sea Beach is long overdue for a rehab. And hopefully we never see a storm like Sandy to wash it out.... We should be alright. The CCC dashboard contracts posted on mta.info states that engineers are making the Sea Beach flood proof with special engineering measures during the rehab. This rehab is going to be massive and thats a understatement. Complete overhaul of all stations, infrastructure (Like the continuous benchwalls that contains the miles of track, concrete tie, throughout) and more. Its a project that makes the Culver Viaduct project look like a walk in the park. So when they finish (Just in time for the lines 100 year anniversary) its going to end up a masterpiece of engineering. 2015 is going to be a busy year with the start of the QBL CBTC project also to start next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted April 22, 2014 Share #102 Posted April 22, 2014 We should be alright. The CCC dashboard contracts posted on mta.info states that engineers are making the Sea Beach flood proof with special engineering measures during the rehab. This rehab is going to be massive and thats a understatement. Complete overhaul of all stations, infrastructure (Like the continuous benchwalls that contains the miles of track, concrete tie, throughout) and more. Its a project that makes the Culver Viaduct project look like a walk in the park. So when they finish (Just in time for the lines 100 year anniversary) its going to end up a masterpiece of engineering. 2015 is going to be a busy year with the start of the QBL CBTC project also to start next year. I would be very curious as to how they manage it without floodgates at 86 Street and the portal west of 8 Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSubwayBuff Posted April 22, 2014 Share #103 Posted April 22, 2014 You missed the part about ONLY IF the Rockaway Beach Branch did get re-activated AND for Subway. As said, that is the big wild card in all of this.That's a grave misuse of the word "wildcard."Wild cards are things which may or may not happen. Rockaway branch being connected to the Queens Boulevard is NOT happening, so it can not be a wild card.Expanding on that:wildcard (noun): an uncontrolled or unpredictable elementYep. I think the Rockaway Beach Branch is well within the realm of predictability. It's about as predictable as a horse that loses 100% of the races it ever races in. I know a horse that always loses in all the races or in this case debates it attempts in. Wallyhorse!!! Jk Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #104 Posted April 22, 2014 You missed the part about ONLY IF the Rockaway Beach Branch did get re-activated AND for Subway. As said, that is the big wild card in all of this. As far as I'm concerned it's still not going to happen. You know that the train will have to run via the crowded Queens Blvd line and the whole Rockaway line will have to be built again. Where is the money coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted April 22, 2014 Share #105 Posted April 22, 2014 I would be very curious as to how they manage it without floodgates at 86 Street and the portal west of 8 Avenue. Now thats a good question. I'll have to research that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted April 22, 2014 Share #106 Posted April 22, 2014 the probably go to coney island via montague tube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #107 Posted September 2, 2014 It's not impossible to fit five lines on Broadway. They did it in '86. It'd just be one hell of a tight squeeze though. While the Manhattan Bridge rehab? Would the then terminate at Whitehall as before? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #108 Posted September 2, 2014 I would be not be suprised if they brought back the running also down 4th avenue local and down the west end line to replace the . 4th avenue line is also a heavily used line West End are a busy route during the summer months, so the have two reasons to put back into service: Astoria service and rush hour train service along West End. Why not bring the back as a local and run it from 57th-7th to Coney Island the same way the runs? The via Second Ave. A replacement service must be done. Agreed. It worked (the few trains sent down the Sea Beach on rush hours for many reasons for the superintendents and T/Ds and the customers a win win) pre budget cuts. Id say split the service in the sense of as done before having some of the trains terminate at Whitehall, others at Kings Highway on the Sea Beach or CI even.Leave the as is to 2nd Ave at all times. Express will have to be reinstated because of the added local back in business to avoid major bunching at interlocking plus it will make the customers happy. True. Then there is the wild card to all of this, and that is IF (and a BIG IF) the Rockaway Beach Branch ever gets rebuilt as subway. IF that happens, then what I think happens is this: The replaces the along Queens Boulevard and runs Whitehall Street-Rockaway Park 24/7 (eliminating the Rockaway Park ). The and swap terminals in Brooklyn with the running 95th Street-205th and the becoming 24/7 Coney Island via West End to Astoria (this so the has CI yard since the has Concourse yard). The runs to Astoria from 5:30 AM-10:00 PM on weekdays and the rest of the time supplements the to 96th Street-2nd Avenue. The becomes at least a 19/7 line to 71st-Continental (and possibly 24/7, which may be needed anyway for reasons unrelated to this). That will get chaos and confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share #109 Posted September 2, 2014 Sure you can. The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 requires that new stations (whether that's brand new stations or complete rebuilds of existing ones) be ADA-compliant. While there are some exceptions to the rule and the MTA has been exempted in certain situations, there is nothing requiring the entire line to be completely ADA-compliant simply because a few new stations are being built along said line. If that was the case, when the island platform at South Ferry was built, the entire line would've had to been upgraded to meet those ADA standards. There's a reason why the MTA has selected a hundred key stations to be ADA-accessible by the end of the decade. Upgrading them all would be financially impossible unless it was paid for by government funding and since the government is not required to pay for this, that won't happen. I don't know about 181st and 168th. They are getting upgraded. But the 191st, it was upgraded and not an ADA elevator was placed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted September 3, 2014 Share #110 Posted September 3, 2014 I don't know about 181st and 168th. They are getting upgraded. But the 191st, it was upgraded and not an ADA elevator was placed. don't quote old posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share #111 Posted September 3, 2014 What Fresh Meadows Yard? There is Fresh Pond but that is only for the . What is there to integrate they are basically the same thing the only exception is the BMT eastern division which is the and which can only use 8 car 60 ft trains. True, but that also stores the , which they use it in summer months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted September 3, 2014 Share #112 Posted September 3, 2014 True, but that also stores the , which they use it in summer months. dude, you just ignored necessary advice that you will need if you don't want your user rights revoked! Not trying to be a backseat mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted September 4, 2014 Share #113 Posted September 4, 2014 "Mine248", there is a general rule of the internet to not dig up threads that have not been answered in a long time. It's called necroposting. Some sites have very strict polices on this, some are more informal, but 5 months quiet doesn't need responses. One to two months is usually a fair number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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