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2 hours ago, Tech And Transit said:

1931-1927-1904-1952-1940 was transferred to Westchester to replace 1921-1922-1925 which was used for the SAP seatless test and moved to Livonia for Shuttle service. Why they didn't choose 1923 instead of 1904 is beyond me. 1901-1903, 1905, 1906, 1908, 1910 and 1903 remain at Corona for now.

1939 was also another unit swapped out of the 4. It's also seatless currently mated with 3 other cars with ADs on the inside/outside of the car. 

 

1923 (1903 was mentioned twice): 1907 was previously seen mated with a redbird. 

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On 8/30/2018 at 2:14 PM, Coney Island Av said:

Singles linked as five-car sets on the (6):

1911-1915, 1916-1920, 1961-1965

1934-1924-1926-1938-1942

1954-1957-1958-1959-1960

1940-1952-1904-1927-1931

But tbh it should've been 1921-1922-1925 that was transferred. It was stupid to break up that set. 

1943-44 (+) 1947-49

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22 minutes ago, Calvin said:

1939 was also another unit swapped out of the 4. It's also seatless currently mated with 3 other cars with ADs on the inside/outside of the car. 

 

1923 (1903 was mentioned twice): 1907 was previously seen mated with a redbird. 

1939 was moved before the seatless pilot. I rode it still with seats on the shuttle.

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History note: Back when the R62A's where the backbone of the (7), alot of unusual movements would occur that involved singles being inconsistently matched up together as long as it made for the required (11 cars-revenue service) for the (7).  Early on around the 2000s, some linked 5-car sets that were already on the (7) were traded over for leftover singles that remained on the mainline in order to compensate for the positioning of the C/Os in operation on the flushing line. i.e.. some of those (1800s) sets that currently roam the (1) did serve the flushing line back then until being transferred back over the to the mainline and were displaced by Corona's R62As singles and even whatever Livonia yard had leftover at the time.

I hate to sound redundant but in the case of (1921-22-25). If you look at the track record on this particular set it was grouped together as a singles 5-car consist a few times in the past, but by the very end of 2015 and on that New Years Eve it was moved over to the (6), it was there for a brief period until returning over back to the (7) around early 2017 to cover up for R188s derailment mishaps that happened outside of Mets-Willets station. Other singles 5-car groups like 1916-1920/1961-1965 did the same thing but where never broken up. Afterwards, yes it was kind of mismanaged to separate 1921-22-25 from 1923-1924, only to have them as a seatless set experiment. Why break up a 5-car set that was 1921-1925 is beyond me. What they should've done from the beginning was take one of the R62As that were ALREADY on the 42nd St (S) roster and experiment with those which they did however it was all after 1921-22-25 received the treatment. Maybe it was the LED green/red side lights that brought the attention for the set to be broken up and since it is Cuomo who is well documented is fascination with bright, shiny light shows and colors I wouldn't be surprised.

In conclusion, at the end of the day of course it's only trains, nothing special as long as they mechanically run well and operate safetly with working A/C's during the summer months of course. Before you know it, these trains will be bound for retirement/scrapping and all this conversation about 1921-22-25 so on and so fourth will be completely irrelevant and life will go on.

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5 hours ago, Calvin said:

1939 was also another unit swapped out of the 4. It's also seatless currently mated with 3 other cars with ADs on the inside/outside of the car. 

 

1923 (1903 was mentioned twice): 1907 was previously seen mated with a redbird. 

My mistake. I meant 1923 in my original post.

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It wouldn't surprise me if those are standard for the new cars. Paper ads are becoming dinosaurs in the advertising industry. Plus, the fact they are LED displays connected to the internet via WiFi means the MTA can use them to convey important information, such as service changes and the like as needed.

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6 hours ago, Lance said:

It wouldn't surprise me if those are standard for the new cars. Paper ads are becoming dinosaurs in the advertising industry. Plus, the fact they are LED displays connected to the internet via WiFi means the MTA can use them to convey important information, such as service changes and the like as needed.

Now the next thing we need are LIVE maps.

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16 minutes ago, m2fwannabe said:

Continuing work service, presumably?

No, it's for the (6) as a new five-car set. 

The only ones for work service now are 1906-1908 and 1910. 

I feel the assignment for the ex-Corona singles should be like this:

For example:

1901-1905, 1911-1915, 1916-1920, 1921-1925, 1926-1927-1931-1934-1938, 1940-1942-1943-1944-1947, 1954-1957-1958-1959-1960, 1961-1965: All on the (6) (40 cars)

1928-1930, 1932-1933, 1935-1937, 1939, 1941, 1945-1946, 1948-1950, 1951-1953, 1955-1956: All on the (S) 42 St Shuttle  (20 cars)

1906, 1907, 1908, 1910: Work Service (four cars)

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@RR503@Dj Hammers

I took these pictures several week back and they concern CBTC. There are non-reporting R188s?

44545600035_331904e1e4_k.jpgIMG_1613 by Union Turnpike, on Flickr

31584884198_ec15370305_k.jpgIMG_1611 by Union Turnpike, on Flickr

31584888018_43691d4e89_k.jpgIMG_1602 by Union Turnpike, on Flickr

44734941034_ac97b35190_k.jpgIMG_1605 by Union Turnpike, on Flickr

31584881128_7a53834aef_k.jpgIMG_1600 by Union Turnpike, on Flickr

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