Grand Concourse Posted January 8, 2011 Share #101 Posted January 8, 2011 Well thanks for the info! If these teething issues persists, does that scrap the possibility for CBTC for the ? or will the MTA find some way to push it thru working or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share #102 Posted January 8, 2011 B) Well thanks for the info! If these teething issues persists, does that scrap the possibility for CBTC for the ? or will the MTA find some way to push it thru working or not? They planned for issues like this. That's why the first set isnt scheduled to go into service until next winter. However, I am slightly confused because where is the 11th car coming from? Are they just testing a 10 car unit for now? I am a complete novice when it comes to trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 8, 2011 Share #103 Posted January 8, 2011 From what's been said here, I'm going to guess: R62As will be sent to the [maybe 10 cars at a time]. Meanwhile, the R142As being converted to R188s will be sent to the directly [which means they were likely already taken off the ]. The 11th would be the new b-car to be inserted into an existing 10-car set, so that would make it 11. Again I have no knowledge of this stuff other than from what I read here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 8, 2011 Share #104 Posted January 8, 2011 I'll ask it: What is your godlike source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 8, 2011 Share #105 Posted January 8, 2011 lol, if that was directed to me: I'm just making a fairly educated guess based on the stuff already posted by others in this thread that probably have more info than i do. I just connect the dots if anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 8, 2011 Share #106 Posted January 8, 2011 lol, if that was directed to me: I'm just making a fairly educated guess based on the stuff already posted by others in this thread that probably have more info than i do. I just connect the dots if anything. Nah, towards MHV9218. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 8, 2011 Share #107 Posted January 8, 2011 oh, ok then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted January 8, 2011 Share #108 Posted January 8, 2011 Thought I'd jump into this thread. A slight problem in the conversion has arisen, I've been told. A set of R142As has been outfitted with CBTC: the set, however, is performing quite badly. Teething problems, yes, but the test phase is being increased to understand what's going on. This has raised qualms amongst TSSes regarding the new R188s as pure retrofit cars, and has delayed the process. Purely what I've been told, again. What are teething problems? What are TSSes? What's the problem with regarding the R188s as pure retrofit cars? Sorry if my questions are annoying... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted January 8, 2011 Share #109 Posted January 8, 2011 What are TSSes? Train Service Supervisor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 8, 2011 Share #110 Posted January 8, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted January 8, 2011 Share #111 Posted January 8, 2011 Look, I know it seems like odd information and you bet it took me by surprise, but I just can't say that. The furthest I can go is say that he was a high-ranking official. Sorry, but the first rule of reporting is that you never make off-the-record into on-the-record. And the second rule of reporting is that you never make off-the-record into on-the-record. You want to guess the third? You really need to stress it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 8, 2011 Share #112 Posted January 8, 2011 OK, I'll believe you. But if I dont hear the sick propulsion of an R142A on the Flushing Line, I'll go nuts! But I really CAN'T see the with R62s again...I just don't see it...just my two cents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted January 8, 2011 Share #113 Posted January 8, 2011 Why not? It's the most logical switch. The R62As can't go on the because the line's cars usually wind up on the and it doesn't make sense to send them to the because Pelham has the most R142As. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E train line Posted January 9, 2011 Share #114 Posted January 9, 2011 I hope not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted January 9, 2011 Share #115 Posted January 9, 2011 I really wish this move wasn't happening. I think that the really should be buying all new cars for the if they really need to have new trains on that line and not do this retrofit stuff they are about to do to the R142A's but shit's already going underway and we the passengers are gonna have to pay for it. While the R62A's going back to the isn't the worst thing in the world, I think it's unnecessary. Hell I think the whole CBTC stuff is unnecessary, but that's just me. It is what it is and while I don't like what's about to happen, I accept it. Oh and you are fooling yourself if you think you are going to get a railfan window just becasue the R62A's are coming back to the . Just thought I'd add that in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted January 10, 2011 Share #116 Posted January 10, 2011 I really wish this move wasn't happening. I think that the really should be buying all new cars for the if they really need to have new trains on that line and not do this retrofit stuff they are about to do to the R142A's but shit's already going underway and we the passengers are gonna have to pay for it. While the R62A's going back to the isn't the worst thing in the world, I think it's unnecessary. Hell I think the whole CBTC stuff is unnecessary, but that's just me. It is what it is and while I don't like what's about to happen, I accept it. If the buys 4 to 5 hundred new cars for the , then were are the 400 R62A's gonna go.... either if they retired themselves or retired the R62s, its a waste of money to replace cars good running cars 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 19, 2011 Share #117 Posted January 19, 2011 If the buys 4 to 5 hundred new cars for the , then were are the 400 R62A's gonna go.... either if they retired themselves or retired the R62s, its a waste of money to replace cars good running cars Like PATH is doing with its PA4 cars, which are actually newer than the R62s? They are replacing their entire fleet with the new PA5 cars. At least if the MTA were to buy new cars for the , it would present a chance for them to test the (7)'s tunnels to see if they can handle longer subway cars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 19, 2011 Share #118 Posted January 19, 2011 I really wish this move wasn't happening. I think that the really should be buying all new cars for the if they really need to have new trains on that line and not do this retrofit stuff they are about to do to the R142A's but shit's already going underway and we the passengers are gonna have to pay for it. While the R62A's going back to the isn't the worst thing in the world, I think it's unnecessary. Hell I think the whole CBTC stuff is unnecessary, but that's just me. It is what it is and while I don't like what's about to happen, I accept it. Oh and you are fooling yourself if you think you are going to get a railfan window just becasue the R62A's are coming back to the . Just thought I'd add that in. Agreed. I'm almost certain the T/O's and C/R's will want a full width-cab so they have enough room to do their jobs safely and so that conductors won't have to move between cars for line stations where the doors open on the left. I would also prefer to see new cars on the because it presents an opportunity to look into buying subway cars longer than 51 feet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share #119 Posted January 19, 2011 Like PATH is doing with its PA4 cars, which are actually newer than the R62s? They are replacing their entire fleet with the new PA5 cars. At least if the MTA were to buy new cars for the , it would present a chance for them to test the (7)'s tunnels to see if they can handle longer subway cars. I'm slightly confused as to what you are talking about seeing as we have hundreds of new cars on order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted January 19, 2011 Share #120 Posted January 19, 2011 I'm slightly confused as to what you are talking about seeing as we have hundreds of new cars on order. he's suggesting that instead of converting R142A's to CBTC compatibility, just purchase 506 brand new cars...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted January 20, 2011 Share #121 Posted January 20, 2011 Wait a second...In the capital projects it says that R142 cars are going to be converted into CBTC to run on the , they did not say R142A. read more... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted January 20, 2011 Share #122 Posted January 20, 2011 Now that you've mentioned that, I confused all over again..... either the R142 or R142A cars is gonna be converted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted January 20, 2011 Share #123 Posted January 20, 2011 Now that you've mentioned that, I confused all over again..... either the R142 or R142A cars is gonna be converted.I would say the R142A would likely be the one to be coverted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted January 20, 2011 Share #124 Posted January 20, 2011 I would say the R142A would likely be the one to be coverted. It is the R142A. Kawasaki's doing the construction 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted January 20, 2011 Share #125 Posted January 20, 2011 It is the R142A. Kawasaki's doing the construction I knew it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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