R42N Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3276 Posted January 20, 2014 Just saw a R188 test train going to Corona at GC! Here's a video I took. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3277 Posted January 20, 2014 Its not a test train Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3278 Posted January 20, 2014 You guys are funny if you think the MTA is going to be dropping $$$ on stuff that is not essential for a CBTC conversion. My thing is if your gonna label it as new, at last make it look new 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3279 Posted January 20, 2014 Just as a heads up: Caught these cars in testing today with iStopRequest321 and trainrider10, full 11 car set: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3280 Posted January 20, 2014 7833-7844 is in service? Since when? Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3281 Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) 7833-7844 is in service? Since when? Using Tapatalk The train in the photos I took (today) was in testing, notice the doors are opening in reverse. It was OOS. We all caught it, iStop ans trainrider10, it was still marked with Kawasaki flyers inside with personnel inside in the lead cars with laptops monitoring the performance of the cars. Edited January 20, 2014 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3282 Posted January 20, 2014 Sorry, I could not see the video in the post because the device I am on. Otherwise I would have noticed what set it was and that it is testing. Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted January 20, 2014 Share #3283 Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Just as a heads up: Caught these cars in testing today with iStopRequest321 and trainrider10, full 11 car set: Sorry, I could not see the video in the post because the device I am on. Otherwise I would have noticed what set it was and that it is testing. Using Tapatalk No probs. I just took pics, quickly at that, that set was flying, barely got it in time because my camera wasnt set, didnt see it coming, the video was R42N's. Looks like the same set in his video. (I had no time to switch to video mode). Edited January 20, 2014 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3284 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Just saw a R188 test train going to Corona at GC! Here's a video I took. It's a test train, the doors opened on the other side, a sign on the door said "Not in service - Test Train". And also they weren't moving it somewhere else as you can only get out of the flushing line from Queensboro Edited January 21, 2014 by R42N 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3285 Posted January 21, 2014 7833-7844 is in service? Since when?Using Tapatalk Its burn in testing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3286 Posted January 21, 2014 Cool to see the order going along nicely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3287 Posted January 21, 2014 R-188s 7849-7854 are on their way to pitkin yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3288 Posted January 21, 2014 My thing is if your gonna label it as new, at last make it look new I think they should've just waited another 10yrs when it comes time to retire the R62/as and then give the 7 brand new trains from the start. That way no issues about making a 10yr old train compatible with the new ones (ie: r160s haven't been combined with R143s in service afaik, otherwise they could've built an R160 a car and run it with the other 3 R143s from that canarsie yard set). I just hope it doesn't mean the new R188 cars have to retire at 30 when the R142A converts are 40. Or can those converts last till they are 50 when the R188s are 40? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3289 Posted January 21, 2014 The only reasons R143s don't run with the 160s is because of propulsion differences. The found out that trains run better when they are are the same type back in the 80s. The R143 and R160 are compatible because they were designed to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3290 Posted January 21, 2014 @Grand Concourse: The problems with waiting until the 62s reach retirement age are 1) Flushing riders will have to wait at least another decade for better service; 2) the signals along the Flushing line would likely have to be replaced twice, the first time with traditional signals and again for CBTC; and 3) 2025 is a nominal date for retirement of those cars. We all know how the MTA is when dealing with schedules. We're still waiting for replacements for the nearly 50 year old 32s, so what's to say the replacements for the 62s won't arrive until some time after 2025? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3291 Posted January 21, 2014 I think they should've just waited another 10yrs when it comes time to retire the R62/as and then give the 7 brand new trains from the start. That way no issues about making a 10yr old train compatible with the new ones (ie: r160s haven't been combined with R143s in service afaik, otherwise they could've built an R160 a car and run it with the other 3 R143s from that canarsie yard set). I just hope it doesn't mean the new R188 cars have to retire at 30 when the R142A converts are 40. Or can those converts last till they are 50 when the R188s are 40? Remember when it comes to retiring trains , the are never on schedule even though the R62/As are supposed to be retired 2023-2028 cause that's what the are predicting add 5 yrs to that just in case.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3292 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Judging by what I've seen when riding R142A/S on the , they are much better than the ones on the . What they should have done, even though it would have been more work, was to take all the R142A's from the and convert them into R188's. That way, the fleet number can be equal and the converted sets wouldn't be just the load of sh*t from the . If they needed more, they would start from the 76xx on the and start going down, so the fleet numbers can be eve. It would also make the conversion sets not look so crappy.. Then the remainder of R142A's on the would head to the and the R62A's would go to the . A lot more work, but in my opinion would be better for the conditions of the cars on the . They would last longer. Edited January 21, 2014 by R188 7857 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3293 Posted January 21, 2014 I just thought about this...why car 7857? Its a B car too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted January 21, 2014 Share #3294 Posted January 21, 2014 Judging by what I've seen when riding R142A/S on the , they are much better than the ones on the . What they should have done, even though it would have been more work, was to take all the R142A's from the and convert them into R188's. That way, the fleet number can be equal and the converted sets wouldn't be just the load of sh*t from the . If they needed more, they would start from the 76xx on the and start going down, so the fleet numbers can be eve. It would also make the conversion sets not look so crappy.. Then the remainder of R142A's on the would head to the and the R62A's would go to the . A lot more work, but in my opinion would be better for the conditions of the cars on the . They would last longer. Plus a lot of "unjustified" overtime for all that work that people seem to keep complaining about too. In the end it would be unnecessary just for the sake of getting the numbers clean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted January 23, 2014 Share #3295 Posted January 23, 2014 Judging by what I've seen when riding R142A/S on the , they are much better than the ones on the . What they should have done, even though it would have been more work, was to take all the R142A's from the and convert them into R188's. That way, the fleet number can be equal and the converted sets wouldn't be just the load of sh*t from the . If they needed more, they would start from the 76xx on the and start going down, so the fleet numbers can be eve. It would also make the conversion sets not look so crappy.. Then the remainder of R142A's on the would head to the and the R62A's would go to the . A lot more work, but in my opinion would be better for the conditions of the cars on the . They would last longer. That is still alot of unnecessary work moving cars around when the R62A's would still end up going to the , its much easier Westchester and Corona swapping cars than your plan , but i see where you are coming from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 23, 2014 Share #3296 Posted January 23, 2014 I don't think those cars in the 2000 range are going to the (I can be wrong) i know the remaining singles are not, the single cars its unknown where they'll end up at, it seems that they're not converting those half cabs at the other end, once all the 1700/1800 are gone off the it looks like the RFW end of those cars will face the flushing side again until they're moved out of corona 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted January 23, 2014 Share #3297 Posted January 23, 2014 I don't think those cars in the 2000 range are going to the (I can be wrong) i know the remaining singles are not, the single cars its unknown where they'll end up at, it seems that they're not converting those half cabs at the other end, once all the 1700/1800 are gone off the it looks like the RFW end of those cars will face the flushing side again until they're moved out of corona There probably gonna send the singles off once all the 5 car sets are off the Line, Then they will start pairing them up and go to the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 23, 2014 Share #3298 Posted January 23, 2014 There probably gonna send the singles off once all the 5 car sets are off the Line, Then they will start pairing them up and go to the line. Would the singles be in order? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted January 23, 2014 Share #3299 Posted January 23, 2014 Would the singles be in order? It might depend, if their numbers can be put in order I think they would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted January 24, 2014 Share #3300 Posted January 24, 2014 Yeah, I definitely agree about the R142A's on the . They are in MUCH better shape than most of the R142As on the . I ride both lines daily. The squeaky brakes on the some R142A drive me nuts. Not to mention half of the side LEDs are f*cked up in some way, shape or form. I rarely ever see those issues with the R142A on the ie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIfO935ykZ4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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