T J Trainman Posted March 30, 2014 Share #3626 Posted March 30, 2014 I should have been more clear it was immidiately removed from service. That was on Jan 27th. I remember that day. Only rode it from Hunterspoint Ave to 74 Street/Broadway. I could have sworn I've seen it a few more times from my window. It looks pretty obvious at night when you see a dim-lit set with one bright car going by. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted March 31, 2014 Share #3627 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) The R33s that ran on the never had their yard stickers changed from black to green when they moved from the to the and the R26/28/29 "salad trains" that moved over to East 180th Yard retained their green stickers until the end of their service lives. Why even go through all the trouble changing the yard stickers? They never did it when the R62s moved over from the to the and the R142s/142As never got them at all. I think it's time to just phase them out completely. that's my point. They didn't change the stickers for the r62s. I din't see the need to change them for the 6. There's no need to phase them out. They'll be around till the r62as are retired. They are the last ones to still have the stickers on all the cars. Edited March 31, 2014 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted March 31, 2014 Share #3628 Posted March 31, 2014 If anything westchester could remove the stickers and that would be it. I really don't see the yellow stickers returning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3629 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Man I just realized the it a shame the 6 train will get the old stock of R62A, what makes the 7 so special? LOL. Edited April 1, 2014 by MTARegional Bus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3630 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Man I just realized the it a shame the 6 train will get the old stock of R62A, what makes the 7 so special? LOL. You sir are almost 3 yrs late on the swaps .... and nothing makes the special , it needs the CBTC to replace the old signal system as well to improve crowding , that is why the R142As from the are getting cbctc and are now R188s , and why the R62As are returning back to the Edited April 1, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3631 Posted April 1, 2014 This just in R-142As.....uh.....R-188s 7221-7225 are being transferred by diesel to pitkin yard right now!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3632 Posted April 1, 2014 You sir are almost 3 yrs late on the swaps .... and nothing makes the special , it needs the CBTC to replace the old signal system as well to improve crowding , that is why the R142As from the are getting cbctc and are now R188s , and why the R62As are returning back to the But Lexington ave is the most crowded then any line and they are relying on old signal system. yet the get the old rolling stock WOW LOL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3633 Posted April 1, 2014 Because there is no where else to put them. The trains are still good for at least 10+years. They are not going to just scrap them and buy new trains. They should've waited till it was time to retire the r62/as and then order new trains for the 7. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3634 Posted April 1, 2014 Because there is no where else to put them. The trains are still good for at least 10+years. They are not going to just scrap them and buy new trains. They should've waited till it was time to retire the r62/as and then order new trains for the 7. But if they waited for the retirement of the 62s, the signal system on the 7 would have been ancient. 6 line riders will just have to learn to deal with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreechyFlange Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3635 Posted April 1, 2014 But if they waited for the retirement of the 62s, the signal system on the 7 would have been ancient. 6 line riders will just have to learn to deal with it. How dare you use common sense and state something that has been said over 1000 times! You should feel ashamed of yourself! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3636 Posted April 1, 2014 6 line riders will just have to learn to deal with it. Very few of them care one way or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3637 Posted April 1, 2014 Very few of them care one way or the other. Very few? Yes, but those very few form a very vocal and very annoying minority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted April 1, 2014 Share #3638 Posted April 1, 2014 Very few? Yes, but those very few form a very vocal and very annoying minority. I can't see how as that hasn't happened. That's because the very few that care are foamers and wouldn't dare file an official complaint based on nothing because that type of complaint would be full of nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3639 Posted April 2, 2014 Very few? Yes, but those very few form a very vocal and very annoying minority. I can't see how as that hasn't happened. That's because the very few that care are foamers and wouldn't dare file an official complaint based on nothing because that type of complaint would be full of nothing. Nobody cares about what model of train they're riding except for a select few we know around here. But everybody cares when their train is late, and as I've extensively detailed, the R62As take longer in the morning rush than the R142As do. This problem can be easily solved by reorganizing morning headways, and to an extent dispatchers have already begun to do that. But running more infrequent and slower service will merit very justified complaints. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3640 Posted April 2, 2014 7860-7870 was in service today, along with 7822-7832. 7822 has been out for quite some time now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3641 Posted April 2, 2014 I can't see how as that hasn't happened. That's because the very few that care are foamers and wouldn't dare file an official complaint based on nothing because that type of complaint would be full of nothing. Nobody cares about what model of train they're riding except for a select few we know around here. But everybody cares when their train is late, and as I've extensively detailed, the R62As take longer in the morning rush than the R142As do. This problem can be easily solved by reorganizing morning headways, and to an extent dispatchers have already begun to do that. But running more infrequent and slower service will merit very justified complaints. No, you're fine, your complaints are valid. I'm talking about the other kinds of people who complain about them... those who have an automatic dislike for old trains no matter what, with very few of their complaints having a basis in reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3642 Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Most riders don't care about what type of train they get wether its a R142A or an R62A , they just want to get to their destinations and in a quick manner.... Edited April 2, 2014 by R62AR33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3643 Posted April 2, 2014 Nobody cares about what model of train they're riding except for a select few we know around here. But everybody cares when their train is late, and as I've extensively detailed, the R62As take longer in the morning rush than the R142As do. This problem can be easily solved by reorganizing morning headways, and to an extent dispatchers have already begun to do that. But running more infrequent and slower service will merit very justified complaints. I can honestly tell you the tardiness has nothing to do with the trains themselves and more to do with other incidents causing the trains to be late. Most of the crews have adjusted and can make the 62 dance just as well and even faster than a 142 when it comes to key situations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3644 Posted April 2, 2014 No, you're fine, your complaints are valid. I'm talking about the other kinds of people who complain about them... those who have an automatic dislike for old trains no matter what, with very few of their complaints having a basis in reality. Very true haha, the announcement fetish in particular cracks me up. As equipment, I'm actually a big fan of the 62As. Most riders don't care about what type of train they get wether its a R142A or an R62A , they just want to get to their destinations and in a quick manner.... Well, exactly, that's what we're talking about there. I can honestly tell you the tardiness has nothing to do with the trains themselves and more to do with other incidents causing the trains to be late. Most of the crews have adjusted and can make the 62 dance just as well and even faster than a 142 when it comes to key situations. The crews may be adjusting but there was a lot of trouble for a while, and no skilled crew can really make up for narrower doors and longer loading times. That's just going to slow you down regardless. C/Rs were shouting over the PA, T/Os were making announcements at the same times as the C/Rs, there were a lot of annoyances. Couple of basic screwups as well while C/Rs were getting used to the equipment, I had one C/R who pulled into 23rd, made all the announcements for the station and the 'Stand Clear' without ever opening the front half of the train. Luckily the T/O caught the mistake and radioed back, doors opened. But I agree, those 62As can and do move faster than the 142As...it's just loading times in the rush that are the achilles heels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3645 Posted April 2, 2014 C/Rs were shouting over the PA, T/Os were making announcements at the same times as the C/Rs, there were a lot of annoyances. Couple of basic screwups as well while C/Rs were getting used to the equipment, I had one C/R who pulled into 23rd, made all the announcements for the station and the 'Stand Clear' without ever opening the front half of the train. Luckily the T/O caught the mistake and radioed back, doors opened. But I agree, those 62As can and do move faster than the 142As...it's just loading times in the rush that are the achilles heels. Thank you, if they overhaul R62A with modern tech it would be a lot better,like auto announcements LED destination sign but it looks like we won't see that anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3646 Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Thank you, if they overhaul R62A with modern tech it would be a lot better,like auto announcements LED destination sign but it looks like we won't see that anytime soon. that is pointless since it won't change anything and it's a waste of money... riders can use the strip maps just like passengers on the , and always have been if they need to look up their stop Edited April 2, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenFrancis Posted April 2, 2014 Share #3647 Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Very true haha, the announcement fetish in particular cracks me up. As equipment, I'm actually a big fan of the 62As. Well, exactly, that's what we're talking about there. The crews may be adjusting but there was a lot of trouble for a while, and no skilled crew can really make up for narrower doors and longer loading times. That's just going to slow you down regardless. C/Rs were shouting over the PA, T/Os were making announcements at the same times as the C/Rs, there were a lot of annoyances. Couple of basic screwups as well while C/Rs were getting used to the equipment, I had one C/R who pulled into 23rd, made all the announcements for the station and the 'Stand Clear' without ever opening the front half of the train. Luckily the T/O caught the mistake and radioed back, doors opened. But I agree, those 62As can and do move faster than the 142As...it's just loading times in the rush that are the achilles heels. Thats not a surprise to me , one time a door guard of an R46 that I was on, opened the doors without realizing the front half was still closed until later. Thank you, if they overhaul R62A with modern tech it would be a lot better,like auto announcements LED destination sign but it looks like we won't see that anytime soon. that is pointless since it won't change anything and it's a waste of money... riders can use the strip maps just like passengers on the , and always have been if they need to look up their stopNaaahh they wont do all that overhauling especially since the R62/As will only be around until the latest around 2030, if anything they might get LED side signs that face inward and outward like the R46s. On top of that the R62/As strip maps arent even updated or show wrong info on the R62As, at Times Square-42nd Street still showed transfers to and trains, luckily it was so small and hard to read and the R62As show the Q32 goes to LGA, when it was actually the Q33 and now its Q70 Edited April 2, 2014 by StevenFrancis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted April 3, 2014 Share #3648 Posted April 3, 2014 Exactly my point. All of the issues mentioned here only seem to to affect railfans and foamers. Everyone else only cares about going to work and going home. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted April 3, 2014 Share #3649 Posted April 3, 2014 This just in R-142As.....uh.....R-188s 7221-7225 are being transferred by diesel to pitkin yard right now!!! sooo that means its gonne be back in service soon? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted April 3, 2014 Share #3650 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Exactly my point. All of the issues mentioned here only seem to to affect railfans and foamers. Everyone else only cares about going to work and going home. That's why I say , R62As are back on the to stay , weather railfans like it or not..people just wanna get to where they have to get to ,they can careless about the type of train they get , At the end of the day we are still gonna ride the line one way or another regardless of what it is running. Edited April 3, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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