NewFlyer 230 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3801 Posted April 22, 2014 Shut up.^ Your wrong, deal with it. Can't believe I fell for that, so many lying ass people on this site...smh...Oh btw...there's some R188s in service today. Lol this had me laughing for a minute. Even I knew all those problems weren't true because most of the R188's are in service and there are many new YouTube videos of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3802 Posted April 22, 2014 You want to know why I highly doubt these "occurrences" actually happened? If the cars were uncoupling and the doors were opening on the wrong side of the train, the train would've been immediately taken out of service. That's a serious safety issue right there. And if it was happening on several sets, you wouldn't see any 188s around until Transit was absolutely sure they resolved the issue. They don't want riders potentially falling out of trains or cars getting stuck on the rails. However, since the 188s are in service fairly regularly, it kind of disproves this rumor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3803 Posted April 22, 2014 You want to know why I highly doubt these "occurrences" actually happened? If the cars were uncoupling and the doors were opening on the wrong side of the train, the train would've been immediately taken out of service. That's a serious safety issue right there. And if it was happening on several sets, you wouldn't see any 188s around until Transit was absolutely sure they resolved the issue. They don't want riders potentially falling out of trains or cars getting stuck on the rails. However, since the 188s are in service fairly regularly, it kind of disproves this rumor. I agree...There no way the transit authority will keep them in service.. But didn't they have a problem with subway cars doors opening on the wrong side back in the 80's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreechyFlange Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3804 Posted April 22, 2014 I agree...There no way the transit authority will keep them in service.. But didn't they have a problem with subway cars doors opening on the wrong side back in the 80's. Because something didn't happen back then isn't an excuse new problems emerge everyday, but I agree with Lance too. I wanna ride these trains while they're still fairly 'new' but i'm just too damn lazy to walk to the subway (3 blocks away) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3805 Posted April 22, 2014 I agree...There no way the transit authority will keep them in service.. But didn't they have a problem with subway cars doors opening on the wrong side back in the 80's. Cause the subway was a hellhole in the 80s. Deferred maintenance all over the place. Such is not the case these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodside7878 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3806 Posted April 22, 2014 any news on the 7th set 7877-7887 in service or the last set 7888-7898 been delivered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3807 Posted April 22, 2014 Here's my two cents. I live in Astoria and have to travel to Citi Field a lot over a year ( Mets Blogger ). I noticed that the R188's are never the "first choice" for conductors and bloggers. While I don't believe the major problems ( Opening on Wrong Side, Uncoupling in service) are happening, I defiantly believe that multiple minor issues are happening. Yesterday my R62A express (which was packed) had to switch to local because of a disabled train at Woodside, and wouldn't you believe it, it was an R188. Obviously though, they either got it to the yards, or repaired it back to service because come 103 st, There were express trains running. Because the Subway fan I am, I walked over to the boardwalk, only to notice around 4 sets of R188 (a couple in the low 78xx's) just sitting there. I then spoke to an operator on the Mets Express ( train that makes 3 stops to manhattan) saying he doubts that there will ever be an R188 on the Mets Express this season. And considering there is 4 Mets Exp per game, that's surprising 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3808 Posted April 22, 2014 Conductors nor bloggers get no choice as to what train they take. Most of them take trains already on the road at that. Besides that, are you sure that the trains you saw in the yard are accepted for service? How many R62As did you see in the yard? As a rough rule of thumb, for every 7 trains you see on the road, you should expect one in the yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3809 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) I agree...There no way the transit authority will keep them in service.. But didn't they have a problem with subway cars doors opening on the wrong side back in the 80's. Cars R1-R14 had exterior door controls that lacked a system to keep doors locked when the train was in motion, hence the door issues. Everything R15 and after had it. Edited April 22, 2014 by LTA1992 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3810 Posted April 22, 2014 Conductors nor bloggers get no choice as to what train they take. Most of them take trains already on the road at that. Besides that, are you sure that the trains you saw in the yard are accepted for service? How many R62As did you see in the yard? As a rough rule of thumb, for every 7 trains you see on the road, you should expect one in the yard. I'll tell you this, from Queensboro to Willits-Point, I saw 1 R188, and it was going out of service (as I Stated). There was around 4 R62a's in the yard (plus probably a couple In the Casey Stengel Shed). Obviously no one can choose what train they take. But think of this. There have been 10 Mets games so far this year. Plus another trip to Bryant Park, that makes 22 trips on the since March 31st. Not one has been a R188. And I always wait for the express at Queensboro, and if there is a local train first, It's always been a R62a. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3811 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Here's my two cents. I live in Astoria and have to travel to Citi Field a lot over a year ( Mets Blogger ). I noticed that the R188's are never the "first choice" for conductors and bloggers. While I don't believe the major problems ( Opening on Wrong Side, Uncoupling in service) are happening, I defiantly believe that multiple minor issues are happening. Yesterday my R62A express (which was packed) had to switch to local because of a disabled train at Woodside, and wouldn't you believe it, it was an R188. Obviously though, they either got it to the yards, or repaired it back to service because come 103 st, There were express trains running. Because the Subway fan I am, I walked over to the boardwalk, only to notice around 4 sets of R188 (a couple in the low 78xx's) just sitting there. I then spoke to an operator on the Mets Express ( train that makes 3 stops to manhattan) saying he doubts that there will ever be an R188 on the Mets Express this season. And considering there is 4 Mets Exp per game, that's surprising What time was it yesterday that your express got rerouted via local? I had an T/O yesterday with R188 7811-7821 and he was booking it hard.. He operated fast as hell and then braked pretty hard. It was a sick ride, better than any R62A ride I've been on. Plus, the R188's are still new. Just like the problems R62A's had when they were new, the R188's are going through very minor problems. Trains get taken OOS on a regular basis. Kawasaki seems to have a clean record, so I doubt the R188's have any major problems. What I've noticed is that they put R188's out in the AM rush, then take them OOS into the yard midday and usually leave about 1-2 in service (from 3-4). Edited April 22, 2014 by R188 7857 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3812 Posted April 22, 2014 What time was it yesterday that your express got rerouted via local? I had an T/O yesterday with R188 7811-7821 and he was booking it hard.. He operated fast as hell and then braked pretty hard. It was a sick ride, better than any R62A ride I've been on. Plus, the R188's are still new. Just like the problems R62A's had when they were new, the R188's are going through very minor problems. Trains get taken OOS on a regular basis. Kawasaki seems to have a clean record, so I doubt the R188's have any major problems. What I've noticed is that they put R188's out in the AM rush, then take them OOS into the yard midday and usually leave about 1-2 in service (from 3-4). Lets see... I entered Citi Field at around 6:30, ( I missed My field time slot because of that damn local reroute.) so I would say I was at Queensboro at 5:45? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3813 Posted April 22, 2014 Until the 188s become the majority fleet on the line (or we at least get some of the converted sets on the rails along with the new builds), you will likely continue to see 62s on the 7-line, including the Mets specials. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3814 Posted April 22, 2014 Lets see... I entered Citi Field at around 6:30, ( I missed My field time slot because of that damn local reroute.) so I would say I was at Queensboro at 5:45? Damn. That must have been 7821 coming back from Times Square the second time (after I got it). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 22, 2014 Share #3815 Posted April 22, 2014 Could a non converted R142A run in service with a brand new R188? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3816 Posted April 23, 2014 There are no converted sets of R-188s in service yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3817 Posted April 23, 2014 Could a non converted R142A run in service with a brand new R188? Hell no, lol. Shyt the converted R142As can't even run with new R188s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3818 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Hell no, lol. Shyt the converted R142As can't even run with new R188s. Will it have the new door motors? Also, that "Sharpie" R188 Train still has sharpie on it!!!! Hope the clean it. Edited April 23, 2014 by queenspapi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3819 Posted April 23, 2014 Will it have the new door motors? Also, that "Sharpie" R188 Train still has sharpie on it!!!! Hope the clean it. Yeah I believe so, because some R142As on the are getting the new door chime and stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3820 Posted April 23, 2014 Could a non converted R142A run in service with a brand new R188? They should. Especially since they share propulsion systems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3821 Posted April 23, 2014 7236-7239/7901/7240 are now at Pitkin yard........... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3822 Posted April 23, 2014 So (7221-7225/7226-7229/7899/7230) is the converted set at Corona, and (7231-7235/7236-7239/7900/7240) is now at Pitkin. Makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3823 Posted April 23, 2014 When did 7221-7229/7900/7230 arrive to corona? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3824 Posted April 23, 2014 When did 7221-7229/7900/7230 arrive to corona? Isn't that the first converted set? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #3825 Posted April 23, 2014 Isn't that the first converted set? The first converted set is 7211-7220/7899 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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