MysteriousBtrain Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4476 Posted September 24, 2014 Yeah, but the reason is also not that they're "struggling" financially. I know that too. Its because of the inclined elevators that the extension won't finish on time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4477 Posted September 24, 2014 Well, I forgot the number on the R188, but the MTA forgot to cover the stations left of Times Square, and that's when I saw 10th Ave station so I was confused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4478 Posted September 24, 2014 Well, I forgot the number on the R188, but the MTA forgot to cover the stations left of Times Square, and that's when I saw 10th Ave station so I was confused. Do you know if it was converted or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4479 Posted September 24, 2014 To a R188A or R188B? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4480 Posted September 24, 2014 What the hell is an R188A/B? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4481 Posted September 24, 2014 To a R188A or R188B? Wha? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 25, 2014 Share #4482 Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) To a R188A or R188B? I mean is it the R142A converted, which is a little dull and has one brand new R188 car near the drivers cab heading for Flushing? Or the ALL NEW R188, which is bright and shiny in all the cars? Edited September 25, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 25, 2014 Share #4483 Posted September 25, 2014 Sorry I got confused between the R142A's and the R160B's. It was all new R188's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 25, 2014 Share #4484 Posted September 25, 2014 Sorry I got confused between the R142A's and the R160B's. It was all new R188's. Ok thanks. I'll explore the strip maps when I ride an R188 next time since idk why 10th Avenue would appear on the strip maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 25, 2014 Share #4485 Posted September 25, 2014 Alriight you cann try but on other R188's, all stops after Times Square to the left are covered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 25, 2014 Share #4486 Posted September 25, 2014 There is no 10 Av stop on the strip maps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 26, 2014 Share #4487 Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) But Fresh Pond just said the R188 order wasn't for car replacement. The R62As aren't being moved to work service, they are going to the .By the time the r142as are converted and sent over to the 7 (plus new insert cars to make the existing 10 car trains into 11cars) there will be extra cars because it isn't just a 10 r142a for 10 r62a car swap. So those extra r62a that the 6 won't need could be used to boost service for the other lines or for work service. Edited September 26, 2014 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted September 26, 2014 Share #4488 Posted September 26, 2014 By the time the r142as are converted and sent over to the 7 (plus new insert cars to make the existing 10 car trains into 11cars) there will be extra cars because it isn't just a 10 r142a for 10 r62a car swap. So those extra r62a that the 6 won't need could be used to boost service for the other lines or for work service. Oh ok. I saw 1908 today in a mix with other singles coupled with two cars I can't remember, 1925, 1919 and a 1700 series 5 car set. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4489 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) There will be more single units around while the 5 car sets gets sent over to the . They've linked a few 1900s as well i think in the 1970s range. Edited September 27, 2014 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R179 8258 Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4490 Posted September 27, 2014 The Converted set with 7905 C car is on it way up to Corona Yard. Just seem t leave Hoyt-Schermerhorn Sts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4491 Posted September 27, 2014 By the time the r142as are converted and sent over to the 7 (plus new insert cars to make the existing 10 car trains into 11cars) there will be extra cars because it isn't just a 10 r142a for 10 r62a car swap. So those extra r62a that the 6 won't need could be used to boost service for the other lines or for work service. They could send it to the or . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4492 Posted September 27, 2014 Hey I just now noticed while watching the video of the first train entering 34 St Hudson Yards that the R62's don't come in the station fully, because there's still a huge gap between the train and the end of station. I don't know about the R188s if they can fill the tracks all the way to the end of the station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4493 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Hey I just now noticed while watching the video of the first train entering 34 St Hudson Yards that the R62's don't come in the station fully, because there's still a huge gap between the train and the end of station. I don't know about the R188s if they can fill the tracks all the way to the end of the station. The MTA used an R62A 6 car set, not a 11 car set, so the train was too short to fill the entire station. Edited September 27, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4494 Posted September 27, 2014 Why did they use a 6 car set? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4495 Posted September 27, 2014 Why did they use a 6 car set? Idk why, but it's not like the train needed an 11 car set because it was just for Bloomberg and other local leaders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 27, 2014 Share #4496 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) By the time the r142as are converted and sent over to the 7 (plus new insert cars to make the existing 10 car trains into 11cars) there will be extra cars because it isn't just a 10 r142a for 10 r62a car swap. So those extra r62a that the 6 won't need could be used to boost service for the other lines or for work service. These numbers don't jive. According to Joe Korner's car assignments, there are 375 R62As to go around for the and - arranged into 10 car trains it would give us 37 and a half trains. 90 for the in the morning, 100 in the afternoon, 240 sets and 35 singles in the morning for the , 220 sets and 33 singles for the afternoon. The utilizes 32 trains during the AM peak, its busiest time, but the uses 40 during the PM peak, which is its busiest time. At the very least 3 R142A trains would be required to make PM service, and that's not even discounting R62As #1906-1910, which will NOT be joined into a five car set due to car 1909 being scrapped. With spare rates considered for both the R62As and the R142As, the idea that some NTTs will stick around the makes sense. The extra cars being ordered would be for the extension, if anything. Edited September 27, 2014 by ttcsubwayfan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted September 28, 2014 Share #4497 Posted September 28, 2014 Does anyone know the last time 7860-7870 was in service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 28, 2014 Share #4498 Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) These numbers don't jive. According to Joe Korner's car assignments, there are 375 R62As to go around for the and - arranged into 10 car trains it would give us 37 and a half trains. 90 for the in the morning, 100 in the afternoon, 240 sets and 35 singles in the morning for the , 220 sets and 33 singles for the afternoon. The utilizes 32 trains during the AM peak, its busiest time, but the uses 40 during the PM peak, which is its busiest time. At the very least 3 R142A trains would be required to make PM service, and that's not even discounting R62As #1906-1910, which will NOT be joined into a five car set due to car 1909 being scrapped. With spare rates considered for both the R62As and the R142As, the idea that some NTTs will stick around the makes sense. The extra cars being ordered would be for the extension, if anything. remember, the 6 is ideally getting all the r62as from the 7, but not all the r142as are being taken to be converted into r188s. There will still be some r142as left on the 6. Now whether they decide to swap again to send the remaining r142as to the 4 and have the 4 keep all the remaining r142as and send over some r142s to the 6 is another matter. The r188s include new single car inserts along with i believe 8 brand new sets of 11 car trains. Even with the 7 extension to 34th st, there will be more than enough trains by the time the 7 is all r188s to have a minor car surplus for the mainline. If it was a strait up conversion with inserts and no brand new trains, then there might be an issue when 34th st opens on the 7. They could send it to the or .yes, I said for other lines, but the 3 has more than enough r62s. Edited September 28, 2014 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 28, 2014 Share #4499 Posted September 28, 2014 remember, the 6 is ideally getting all the r62as from the 7, but not all the r142as are being taken to be converted into r188s. There will still be some r142as left on the 6. Yeah, I know. I must have misunderstood your other post, I thought were saying that there would be excess R62As. Now whether they decide to swap again to send the remaining r142as to the 4 and have the 4 keep all the remaining r142as and send over some r142s to the 6 is another matter. Why would they? Westchester's workers and crewmen are already trained on the R142As, why complicate things by making them learn the R142? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted September 29, 2014 Share #4500 Posted September 29, 2014 7271 is at corona yard now right if im not mistaken? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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