Javier Posted October 13, 2014 Share #4626 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Oh yeah, today, I was the dumbest railfan alive. I got in the first car, but forgot to ask my grandma for my phone to take a video. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Milk is spilling out of my nose.???????????????????????????? Edited October 13, 2014 by Javier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4627 Posted October 14, 2014 I saw 7300 being moved my a diesel. Guess that set is done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4628 Posted October 14, 2014 why does your grandma have your phone? Ya don't have pockets? She was holding my backpack which my phone was in there, while I went up to the window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4629 Posted October 14, 2014 So how much longer till the riders of the line can say farewell to the R142A's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4630 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) So how much longer till the riders of the line can say farewell to the R142A's? It will be years before that happens.... It would be around 2016 when the R62As take over. Edited October 14, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4631 Posted October 14, 2014 It will be years before that happens.... It would be around 2016 when the R62As take over. Really? I thought it would be soon. So once all the R188's are on the , the left overs of R142A's will stay on the and along with R62's? When will the have its new subway cars again? I am now looking forward to that, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4632 Posted October 14, 2014 The ones it has right now? Besides the ones that will stay behind, never. Replacements for the R62As will come in 10 or so years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4633 Posted October 14, 2014 Really? I thought it would be soon. So once all the R188's are on the , the left overs of R142A's will stay on the and along with R62's? When will the have its new subway cars again? I am now looking forward to that, Yeah, and the will not see new cars until the R62As are replaced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4634 Posted October 14, 2014 Then there is still a long time before any of the older cars get replaced right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4635 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Then there is still a long time before any of the older cars get replaced right? Yep. The earliest time to replace the R62s and R68s is 2026. Although the Kawasaki R62s are to be replaced in 2023. Edited October 14, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted October 14, 2014 Share #4636 Posted October 14, 2014 10 years is a long time, yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4637 Posted October 15, 2014 I wonder if they will make R62B's, lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4638 Posted October 15, 2014 Why on earth would they do that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4639 Posted October 15, 2014 If there was a plan to make R62Bs, it would have been made in the 1980s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4640 Posted October 15, 2014 If there was a plan to make R62Bs, it would have been made in the 1980s. Exactly.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4641 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Yep. The earliest time to replace the R62s and R68s is 2026. Although the Kawasaki R62s are to be replaced in 2023. That is a date that you got from wikipedia that is very very unreliable , as of right now the R62/As are doing so well there is no planned order or date to retire them at that time. you have to wait until the officially announces that they are coming up with an order to retire the R62/As.... according to wikipedia the R32s were suppose to retire in 2002 and the R42s in 2004 and the redbirds in 1994-1998 and look where the R32s and R42s are at right now, sure the redbirds redbirds retired in 2003 but its a much later date. Also Knowing the when it comes to their orders to retire trains the orders normally have a delay and come in late , you can't go by what wikipedia says. The R179s are late as it is and the R211 order is not even awarded to anyone and is still in the drawing board. When it comes to retiring trains it all depends due to age, performance and most importantly if the order to retire them is on time. Edited October 15, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4642 Posted October 15, 2014 Hes going off the usual length of time for a NYC subway car from production to scrap which should be 40 years. The cars started to be shipped to NYCT around 1984. They are 30 years old now and it will have at least for 10 years (approximately) of more revenue service before the R62 or R68s either way are retired. So no subway car is to date has been actually planned for the retirement of those particular cars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4643 Posted October 15, 2014 That is a date that you got from wikipedia that is very very unreliable , as of right now the R62/As are doing so well there is no planned order or date to retire them at that time. you have to wait until the officially announces that they are coming up with an order to retire the R62/As.... according to wikipedia the R32s were suppose to retire in 2002 and the R42s in 2004 and the redbirds in 1994-1998 and look where the R32s and R42s are at right now, sure the redbirds redbirds retired in 2003 but its a much later date. Also Knowing the when it comes to their orders to retire trains the orders normally have a delay and come in late , you can't go by what wikipedia says. The R179s are late as it is and the R211 order is not even awarded to anyone and is still in the drawing board. When it comes to retiring trains it all depends due to age, performance and most importantly if the order to retire them is on time. I posted that tidbit on wikipedia! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4644 Posted October 15, 2014 That is a date that you got from wikipedia that is very very unreliable , as of right now the R62/As are doing so well there is no planned order or date to retire them at that time. you have to wait until the officially announces that they are coming up with an order to retire the R62/As.... according to wikipedia the R32s were suppose to retire in 2002 and the R42s in 2004 and the redbirds in 1994-1998 and look where the R32s and R42s are at right now, sure the redbirds redbirds retired in 2003 but its a much later date. Also Knowing the when it comes to their orders to retire trains the orders normally have a delay and come in late , you can't go by what wikipedia says. The R179s are late as it is and the R211 order is not even awarded to anyone and is still in the drawing board. When it comes to retiring trains it all depends due to age, performance and most importantly if the order to retire them is on time. I'll admit I got this from Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but an average NYC subway car life is 40 years. And you're right, there is no way to tell if the R62s will retire in the 2020s at this time. The earliest to retire them is 2023-26 b/c they started running in 1983 or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4645 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Really? I thought it would be soon. So once all the R188's are on the , the left overs of R142A's will stay on the and along with R62's? When will the have its new subway cars again? I am now looking forward to that, Think about it like this originally BEFORE the swap the ran 450 R142A's [10 car sets each ] and Flushing ran 430 sets of R62A's [11 car sets] .Now 380 R142A's from the are being converted into R188s for the and the ordered 123 newly built R188s. In return the is getting 400 R62A's from the . Why not 430 ? 30 R62A's are single cars wich means an extra car was added into each set to make a train of 11 cars instead of 10.Back in 2000 single car 1909 was wrecked at hunts point ave so you can no longer put all single cars into 10 car sets .( correct me anyone if im wrong on that part) The single cars will probably be used for work service or can be placed on other irt lines . Once the swap is done in 2016 the will be 100% R188s and will run 40 sets of R62A's along with the remaining 6 sets of uncoverted R142A's . The won't fully be NTTs again until the R62A's retire in likely another 10-15 yrs , unless a swap happens in the near future wit the and which most likely won't happen. In case a swap was too happen in the future it would leave being 100% R62A's because the will have enough R62A's to fully cover service on the so the wouldn't need its R142/A's. Edited October 15, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4646 Posted October 15, 2014 Does it matter though? This isn't about the cars. It's about the amount of trains they already have the lines. The R142As are just going to be a minority in the fleet, and same goes with the fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted October 16, 2014 Share #4647 Posted October 16, 2014 That is a date that you got from wikipedia that is very very unreliable , as of right now the R62/As are doing so well there is no planned order or date to retire them at that time. you have to wait until the officially announces that they are coming up with an order to retire the R62/As.... according to wikipedia the R32s were suppose to retire in 2002 and the R42s in 2004 and the redbirds in 1994-1998 and look where the R32s and R42s are at right now, sure the redbirds redbirds retired in 2003 but its a much later date. Also Knowing the when it comes to their orders to retire trains the orders normally have a delay and come in late , you can't go by what wikipedia says. The R179s are late as it is and the R211 order is not even awarded to anyone and is still in the drawing board. When it comes to retiring trains it all depends due to age, performance and most importantly if the order to retire them is on time. You keep saying Wikipedia is unreliable, yet the information posted there comes straight off of MTA documents. Get with the times. I and others here have been keeping that site up to date as new OFFICIAL information comes out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 16, 2014 Share #4648 Posted October 16, 2014 Think about it like this originally BEFORE the swap the ran 450 R142A's [10 car sets each ] and Flushing ran 430 sets of R62A's [11 car sets] .Now 380 R142A's from the are being converted into R188s for the and the ordered 123 newly built R188s. In return the is getting 400 R62A's from the . Why not 430 ? 30 R62A's are single cars wich means an extra car was added into each set to make a train of 11 cars instead of 10.Back in 2000 single car 1909 was wrecked at hunts point ave so you can no longer put all single cars into 10 car sets .( correct me anyone if im wrong on that part) The single cars will probably be used for work service or can be placed on other irt lines . Once the swap is done in 2016 the will be 100% R188s and will run 40 sets of R62A's along with the remaining 6 sets of uncoverted R142A's . The won't fully be NTTs again until the R62A's retire in likely another 10-15 yrs , unless a swap happens in the near future wit the and which most likely won't happen. In case a swap was too happen in the future it would leave being 100% R62A's because the will have enough R62A's to fully cover service on the so the wouldn't need its R142/A's. Why thank you very much for your answer. This is the kind of answer I was looking and very gladly appreciate you explaining it, thanks! I am not sure what NTT stands for and what it does. I will assume it has to due with the type of trains that run on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 16, 2014 Share #4649 Posted October 16, 2014 Why thank you very much for your answer. This is the kind of answer I was looking and very gladly appreciate you explaining it, thanks! I am not sure what NTT stands for and what it does. I will assume it has to due with the type of trains that run on it. NTT stands for new technology trains (all cars r142 and up) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 16, 2014 Share #4650 Posted October 16, 2014 NTT stands for new technology trains (all cars r142 and up) Oh haha, that makes sense. Guess I can't complain though since I am not a train rider after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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