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They're ALREADY a hard find...I only see 2 R62A's running in service every time I go fanning on the (7)...

No its not. I always see an R62A on the Flushing and I see more R62A's running Express than Local on rush hour . I get an R188/142A (7) whenever I go Local. :/ but whoever said theres less R62A's on weekends thats indeed true. Pure 188's on weekends

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No its not. I always see an R62A on the Flushing and I see more R62A's running Express than Local on rush hour . I get an R188/142A (7) whenever I go Local. :/ but whoever said theres less R62A's on weekends thats indeed true. Pure 188's on weekends

On the weekend that the TOMC was out, there was only one R62A in service.

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It seems they are waiting to transfer the single R62A cars to the (6) last. When they do, I'm sure they will convert a few more cabs to full length and keep them on the end of 5-car consists.

Of course they are going to convert them it would make no sense to send them to the (6) and not convert them into full width cabs they should be easier to operate that way

there are other 1900s below 1961 used on the shuttle. Ideally they could trade some cars coming back from the 7 with the shuttle, but the S needs full width cab ends and they may probably have to leave a few trains of non consecutive units to run on the 6. That is until/if they ever rebuild the times sq end of the shuttle so it can run a 5-car train and no longer need 3-4 car trains. Some said the cars on the S are linked and i dunno if it would be a simple matter of unlinking them. I think there are the 1920s numbered cars still wit the red stickers that could be put together as two consecutive 5 car sets. They ran on the 1 few years ago, but were out of sequence. I would've figured they might've linked them since they had the lower 5 cars together.

 

There is nothing stated all trains going to the 6 must be full width cabs, but i do understand there might be a preference from the crews to have full width cabs.

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How many sets of R62A does the (7) have because I see so many of them on the (7) at once? That isn't the case with the R142A's on the (6). The (6) is borrowing R62A's from the (1)

 

There's still a little over a dozen of them on the (7) so for any railfans out there that like the R62A on the Flushing line cherish these moments while you still can especially with the Railfan windows. As for the (6) line, the R62As are practically dominating that line from top to bottom, theres over 25 62As on the (6) already including the loaners from the (1). Don't have a clue when those loaners are going back to the (1) but in any event, it truly feels like 1990s era on the (6) which several years ago I never thought to see.

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How many sets of R62A does the (7) have because I see so many of them on the (7) at once? That isn't the case with the R142A's on the (6). The (6) is borrowing R62A's from the (1)

Since I ride the (6) to go to work , There's times Iv seen 7 or 8 sets of R62A's back to back before finally seeing an R142A , iv noticed lately for some reason the dispacher for the (6) lays up most of the R142A's after the am and pm rush , As for the (7) it seems like Corona does that on purpose so that after rush hour they can lay them up and send em back to yard,

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Since I ride the (6) to go to work , There's times Iv seen 7 or 8 sets of R62A's back to back before finally seeing an R142A , iv noticed lately for some reason the dispacher for the (6) lays up most of the R142A's after the am and pm rush , As for the (7) it seems like Corona does that on purpose so that after rush hour they can lay them up and send em back to yard,

Yes I noticed that too when I'm traveling to school on the (6). I think the MTA is trying to use those remaining R142A's as least as possible because they don't have very good MDBF and the (7) fleet expect for the new cars are the same thing. So I'm hoping now that Westchester yard has less of them and Corona had the majority we can see in increase in reliabity with these cars. IMO the R142A need a good interior cleaning because they look and smell disgusting. Edited by NewFlyer 230
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Summary as of November 2:

 

(1): 1351-1355, 1431-1434-1438, 1456-1460, 1826-1830, 1841-1900 (15), 2161-2220, 2226-2305, 2311-2325, 2331-2345, 2351-2475 (370) = (385 cars total)

 

(3): 1301-1350, 1356-1365, 1371-1430, 1441-1455, 1461-1625 (305 total)

 

(6): 1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1961-2025, 2031-2040, 2051-2055, 2061-2065, 2096-2100, 2126-2130, 2136-2140, 2156-2160, 2221-2225, 2306-2310, 2326-2330, 2346-2350 (300), 7506-7655 (150) = (450 total)

 

(7): R62A singles/5 car: 1901-1908, 1910-1926, 1938-1939, 1942-1944, 1947-1949, 1954, 1957-1960 (48 singles)

                                       2026-2030, 2041-2060, 2066-2095, 2101-2125, 2131-2135, 2141-2155 (70)

 

      R188: 7211-7470, 7811-7898, 7899-7924: 34 trains total 

 

 

(4): 1101-1250, 7081-7180 (250), 7656-7810 (155) = (405 total)

 

(2): 6301-6690, (5): 6691-7080 (Both 390)


The MTA doesnt plan on getting the R62A fleet situated in numerical order by yard fleet right? For example; 1826-1830 is on the (1) rather than the (6)

sometimes, units gets scrambled (ex. from the R32 list)

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The MTA doesnt plan on getting the R62A fleet situated in numerical order by yard fleet right? For example; 1826-1830 is on the (1) rather than the (6)

They should. But I guess the notion of it is "if it looks like a 62A, then its a 62A."

 

I've already seen a couple of times the 18xx coupled together on the (1).

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They should. But I guess the notion of it is "if it looks like a 62A, then its a 62A."

 

I've already seen a couple of times the 18xx coupled together on the (1).

Iv said this before and ill say it again , what they need to do is have the (6) keep R62A's 1651-2000 and the (1) keeps 2001-2475 , excluding the single sets that the shuttle has.

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Summary as of November 2:

 

(1): 1351-1355, 1431-1434-1438, 1456-1460, 1826-1830, 1841-1900 (15), 2161-2220, 2226-2305, 2311-2325, 2331-2345, 2351-2475 (370) = (385 cars total)

 

(3): 1301-1350, 1356-1365, 1371-1430, 1441-1455, 1461-1625 (305 total)

 

(6): 1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1961-2025, 2031-2040, 2051-2055, 2061-2065, 2096-2100, 2126-2130, 2136-2140, 2156-2160, 2221-2225, 2306-2310, 2326-2330, 2346-2350 (300), 7506-7655 (150) = (450 total)

 

(7): R62A singles/5 car: 1901-1908, 1910-1926, 1938-1939, 1942-1944, 1947-1949, 1954, 1957-1960 (48 singles)

                                       2026-2030, 2041-2060, 2066-2095, 2101-2125, 2131-2135, 2141-2155 (70)

 

      R188: 7211-7470, 7811-7898, 7899-7924: 34 trains total 

 

 

(4): 1101-1250, 7081-7180 (250), 7656-7810 (155) = (405 total)

 

(2): 6301-6690, (5): 6691-7080 (Both 390)

 

sometimes, units gets scrambled (ex. from the R32 list)

 

Is 1934 not still on the (7)?

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The (1) is borrowing Livonia's cars or keeping them? If they're being borrowed because some of there R62A's are on the (6) then why didnt Westchester just get R62 loaners from Livonia to begin with?

 

If the loaners 2156-60, 2221-25, 2306-10/2326-30/2346-50 from the (1) were being borrowed to the (6) for this long, the logic would've made sence that they could've send the 18xx's over to make up for service and fleet numerical order.

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